faraway saint Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 I see Gladiators is making a return on BBC soon. Bradley Walsh and son are the presenters so that's a good start. Just checked, the original ran from 1992 to 2000. It was decent family viewing so we'll give it a whirl when it starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 I see Gladiators is making a return on BBC soon. Bradley Walsh and son are the presenters so that's a good start. Just checked, the original ran from 1992 to 2000. It was decent family viewing so we'll give it a whirl when it starts. Was reading yesterday a past producer of said show is getting sued.BBC News - Paula Abdul sues Nigel Lythgoe over alleged sexual assaulthttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-67848608 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Was reading yesterday a past producer of said show is getting sued. BBC News - Paula Abdul sues Nigel Lythgoe over alleged sexual assault https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-67848608 That's that then, I'm no watching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 Coming up on ITV, Mr Bates V's The Post Office. There's, sometimes, a story that comes out that seems to resonate with me and THIS disgrace was one. It's a 4 part series, I've got it on series link, I'll get it watched when I get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Coming up on ITV, Mr Bates V's The Post Office. There's, sometimes, a story that comes out that seems to resonate with me and THIS disgrace was one. It's a 4 part series, I've got it on series link, I'll get it watched when I get a chance. Justice won't have been served until all the innocent victims of this awful debacle receive mega-compensation, and those within Fujitsu and the Post Office who were aware that Horizon was a flawed and corrupt system appear in the dock. Along with Mone and Barrowman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmac Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 18 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Justice won't have been served until all the innocent victims of this awful debacle receive mega-compensation, and those within Fujitsu and the Post Office who were aware that Horizon was a flawed and corrupt system appear in the dock. Along with Mone and Barrowman. I can't believe how little flak that Fujitsu are getting from this. Even now when there is little doubt about who is to blame for this they still seem to be avoiding much publicity. I have watched most of the first episode and Fujitsu have not been mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 11 hours ago, Wilbur said: Justice won't have been served until all the innocent victims of this awful debacle receive mega-compensation, and those within Fujitsu and the Post Office who were aware that Horizon was a flawed and corrupt system appear in the dock. Along with Mone and Barrowman. 11 hours ago, ianmac said: I can't believe how little flak that Fujitsu are getting from this. Even now when there is little doubt about who is to blame for this they still seem to be avoiding much publicity. I have watched most of the first episode and Fujitsu have not been mentioned. Agreed gentlemen on all counts. I'll not comment too much until I've seen any episodes but as I've previously mentioned this case really made me angry. Bad enough that the system was fcuked but even worse was the attitude and blame culture of the Post Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 6 Author Report Share Posted January 6 On 1/2/2024 at 10:18 AM, faraway saint said: Agreed gentlemen on all counts. I'll not comment too much until I've seen any episodes but as I've previously mentioned this case really made me angry. Bad enough that the system was fcuked but even worse was the attitude and blame culture of the Post Office. Looks like the Post Office are going to get it big time, or rather the people who, seem to have creamed off the money. Also good to see more people, who have been scared to come forward, have bravely come forward after this TV drama. The Metropolitan Police is investigating the Post Office over "potential fraud offences" in the Horizon IT scandal. More than 700 branch managers were previously accused of wrongdoing after faulty accounting software made it appear money was missing. Police are now investigating possible fraud offences arising from the prosecutions. Fifty new potential victims have also come forward following an ITV drama. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67899189 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 @Wilbur & @ianmac and anybody else who's interested in the Post Office scandal, although scandal doesn't quite cover it, you really need to watch the four outstanding episodes of Mr Bates v The Post Office. I can't recall watching 4 hours of any TV series in one "binge" but we did today. I won't spoil anything for those who might want to watch it but it is outstanding drama. Perfectly acted and raised so many emotions. What these people, postmasters/postmistresses, were put through is unimaginable. Anyhow, 10/10 and Toby Jones must get some BAFTA award, or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 The drama has really ignited the interest in this scandal with more and more innocent Post Office workers, and, sadly, families of those who were persecuted who have since passed away, coming forward with more tragic stories. There was a BBC special last night, recorded it (VHS) and will try to watch it when I get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 An interesting, if not totally surprising, issue is being discussed on the BBC news that there are a considerable, possibly close to a third, of prosecuted postmasters that were actually guilty of stealing from the post office. With the proposed "blanket" approach to quash the prosecutions, this would mean some guilty individuals would see their sentences disappear and more alarmingly receive considerable compensation. Quite how they could/would separate the good from the bad is a problem that might not be easy to solve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmac Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 5 hours ago, faraway saint said: An interesting, if not totally surprising, issue is being discussed on the BBC news that there are a considerable, possibly close to a third, of prosecuted postmasters that were actually guilty of stealing from the post office. With the proposed "blanket" approach to quash the prosecutions, this would mean some guilty individuals would see their sentences disappear and more alarmingly receive considerable compensation. Quite how they could/would separate the good from the bad is a problem that might not be easy to solve. It would be interesting to see how many were prosecuted in the 20 years prior to Fujitsu getting involved. I heard a bit of the inquiry on the radio in my car this morning. The lawyer spent about 15 mins quizzing a PO investigator about whether he had been conducting the interview with the accused postmaster professionally as he had told her she should get up earlier if she could not open the Post Office in time in the morning! No wonder these inquiries take so long and they cost so much with lawyers making a killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 On 1/1/2024 at 10:19 PM, Wilbur said: Justice won't have been served until all the innocent victims of this awful debacle receive mega-compensation, and those within Fujitsu and the Post Office who were aware that Horizon was a flawed and corrupt system appear in the dock. Along with Mone and Barrowman. I find him annoying too but prosecution is maybe a step too far. Besides, he'd be more popular in the clink than he ever was on stage so it's hardly punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 6 hours ago, faraway saint said: An interesting, if not totally surprising, issue is being discussed on the BBC news that there are a considerable, possibly close to a third, of prosecuted postmasters that were actually guilty of stealing from the post office. With the proposed "blanket" approach to quash the prosecutions, this would mean some guilty individuals would see their sentences disappear and more alarmingly receive considerable compensation. Quite how they could/would separate the good from the bad is a problem that might not be easy to solve. According to Google, around 700 of the 900 prosecutions were led by the post office, with the others being done by the likes of the CPS. I imagine those ones (the others) were possibly the more obvious frauds/thefts as the CPS etc wouldn't want to be taking on ones without decent evidence. Maybe the 700 were knocked back by the CPS etc due to lack of evidence of criminality. Just my thoughts on it. There were obviously other sub-postmasters that paid the PO money that they didn't actually owe them to avoid prosecution. It's all a complete f**k-up that could have been avoided if Fujitsu and the PO just admitted at the time that the system had faults, then fixed them - or maybe even tested it properly in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 I’ve been following this debacle in Private Eye for at least a decade. And this distraction about a very few fraudsters and thieves was brought up many times to excuse the appalling treatment meted out by the PO. The only people who might currently “benefit” from the recent Govt and PO about-turns are those who were (to quote the govt) “wrongfully convicted”. ALL honest people who were treated abominably. And just in case an odd one pops up that was truly perfidious… “Business minister Kevin Hollinrake told the Commons that sub-postmasters will be asked to sign a statement to declare they did not commit the crime before receiving compensation. He said: “As far as possible we want to avoid guilty people walking away with hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money, but we cannot make the provision of compensation subject to a detailed examination of guilt.” He added: “All we ask is that as part of their claims of compensation postmasters sign a statement to the effect they did not commit the crimes of which they are accused. “Anyone subsequently found to have signed such a statement untruthfully will be putting themselves at risk of prosecution of fraud." An exaggeration about “hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money” not being wasted… and total silence about the millions already ploughed into ignoring the problem, trying to make it go away plus court losses, loss of business and wasting PO and Govt time and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Ian Hislop slagging another late-to-the party Tory MP… Amusing. https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/ian-hislop-jake-berry-peston-post-office-scandal-b2476800.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, antrin said: I’ve been following this debacle in Private Eye for at least a decade. And this distraction about a very few fraudsters and thieves was brought up many times to excuse the appalling treatment meted out by the PO. The only people who might currently “benefit” from the recent Govt and PO about-turns are those who were (to quote the govt) “wrongfully convicted”. ALL honest people who were treated abominably. And just in case an odd one pops up that was truly perfidious… “Business minister Kevin Hollinrake told the Commons that sub-postmasters will be asked to sign a statement to declare they did not commit the crime before receiving compensation. He said: “As far as possible we want to avoid guilty people walking away with hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money, but we cannot make the provision of compensation subject to a detailed examination of guilt.” He added: “All we ask is that as part of their claims of compensation postmasters sign a statement to the effect they did not commit the crimes of which they are accused. “Anyone subsequently found to have signed such a statement untruthfully will be putting themselves at risk of prosecution of fraud." An exaggeration about “hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money” not being wasted… and total silence about the millions already ploughed into ignoring the problem, trying to make it go away plus court losses, loss of business and wasting PO and Govt time and money. That seems a pretty decent solution and, hopefully, speeds up an end to this scandal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 Stephen Bradshaw, one of the b'strds who bullied, lied and intimidated people just sat and denied everything put to him about his attitude and manner during these terrible situations. Surprised he never got a whack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 I’ve followed this story going back to when Computer Weekly first published the first article on the topic. These two “giant” companies felt untouchable. I had “dealings” with both over my career. Needless to say I’m not shocked by what has come about. What bothers most is that it took a fcuking TV series nearly 25 years after the first problems for this to become a national concern. What the actual fcuk were all the MPs representing these constituents doing when we are talking about hundreds of millions and subsequent prosecutions, jail and suicide. I’m sure we’ve all felt sick when we’ve lost money (lost a wallet, etc) but these people were at the heart of their communities up to their necks in 10s of thousands of unaccounted transactions. It makes me sick that it’s taken so long and once again it’s the same people who suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 Just watched an interview with a poor woman postmistress from the Aberdeen area. Same story, aggressively questioned, isolated and threatened with jail. How she, her husband and children, got through this is just unbelievable. The people who carried out these "interviews" can live with themselves is beyond me although as they were on a bonus scheme I suppose that explains a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 12 hours ago, faraway saint said: The people who carried out these "interviews" can live with themselves is beyond me although as they were on a bonus scheme I suppose that explains a lot. Those who knew (likely there were many) should be named, shamed and paraded through the cities, towns and villages whose sub-postmasters they continually lied about. Like Hillsborough those who lied, falsified documents and were corrupt will get off Scot free. How many other things are hidden by the “authorities”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 14 Author Report Share Posted January 14 On 12/31/2023 at 9:58 AM, faraway saint said: I see Gladiators is making a return on BBC soon. Bradley Walsh and son are the presenters so that's a good start. Just checked, the original ran from 1992 to 2000. It was decent family viewing so we'll give it a whirl when it starts. Just watched last night's first episode, overall, ok. It'll take a while to get into the characters but it was a reasonably entertaining hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 27 Author Report Share Posted January 27 On 1/14/2024 at 2:09 PM, faraway saint said: Just watched last night's first episode, overall, ok. It'll take a while to get into the characters but it was a reasonably entertaining hour. Episode 3 on and, after watching last weeks with my granddaughter I'm right into it now. The Scottish girl, Sabre has SOME pair of thighs............................just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 Traitors is the hottest thing on TV but just doesn't do it for me. Over 7 million, big numbers in todays workd of numerous channels, watched the final the other night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 2 Author Report Share Posted February 2 Currently watching Celebrity Mastermind. Tonight's "celebrities" are Lee Latchford-Evans, Rachael Parris, Harry Pinero and Lauren Layfield. Alas I'm unfamiliar with all these celebrities. The funniest one was Harry Pinero, occupation - content creator, scored an underwhelming NOWT on his specialised subject. He did improve on the general knowledge section scoring an almighty FIVE. Celebrities my arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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