salmonbuddie

The point I’m making FS is that SNP does not = Independence and independence does not = The SNP.
I don’t support independence because I support the SNP. That would be stupid. I support the SNP because I support independence and they are currently the best vehicle for it. A loss of faith in the SNP would not for me mean a loss of faith in independence. I mean why should it? 
 
Independence = Self determination and once achieved we can hold parties to account every 5 years. Ironically in the current set up the only party Scotland can hold to account is the SNP!
 
Surely to Christ pointing out this fundamental truism doesn’t make me arrogant or suggest I think I know better than others?
 

Seriously though, forget the polls, but could someone please explain to me how a supporter of independence can have their minds changed by the Salmond/Sturgeon goings on? I mean regardless of your view on who is right and who is wrong.
What the f**k does one have to do with the other. 
“I was pure dead in favour of independence so ah wiz, but it’s possible thit yon Nicola Sturgeon might have been tellin some fibs, so am pure dead for the union noo so ah um”.
Are we really expected to think that there are folk with more than half a brain cell that have come to this conclusion?
If it is the case, then it’s true that some folk are too f**kin stupid to be given a vote.

It was probably because you are Russian. Everyone knows that all Russians are racists. 🤔

Sadly all of his "scared" moments seemed to be based on the above "fact", which have him dismissing the effects of the disease and suggesting that we were over reacting.
It would be interesting to see his views just now, give that Covid isn't "just flu".
 

Not going to hold my breath waiting for DRoss calling for a vote of no confidence in BoJos for misleading Westminster.

"3 days after the High Court ruled Government had acted unlawfully by failing to publish Covid contracts, Boris Johnson stood up in the House of Commons and reassured MPs and the public that all Covid-related contracts were “on the record”. However, the final Order handed down by the Judge today shows that what the Prime Minister told the House was not true. 

"The Judge confirmed:

“The Defendant has published 608 out of 708 relevant contracts for supplies and services relating to COVID-19 awarded on or before 7 October 2020. In some or all of these cases, the Defendant acted unlawfully by failing to publish the contracts within the period set out in the Crown Commercial Service’s Publication of Central Government Tenders and Contracts: Central Government Transparency Guidance Note (November 2017).”

"Remarkably, the Judge’s Order is based on Government’s own figures – so at the same time as Johnson was falsely reassuring MPs, Government lawyers were preparing a statement contradicting him – revealing 100 contracts and dozens of Contract Award Notices were missing from the public record. You can read the final Court Order here and consequential judgment in full here. 

"Over the course of the judicial review, Government made no less than four attempts to provide an accurate witness statement setting out the number of contracts and Contract Award Notices that had been published late – and they kept getting it wrong. As late as the hearing itself, they said they had published 28% of Contract Award Notices within the 30 day legal limit. 

"But when asked by the Judge to follow up with evidence of the figures so he could make his final Order, it transpired that Government had actually only published 3% of CANs in the legal timeframe. 

" Government has not only misled Parliament and placed inaccurate information before the Court, it has misled the country. 

" Unless contract details are published they cannot be properly scrutinised – there’s no way of knowing where taxpayers’ money is going and why. Billions have been spent with those linked to the Conservative Party and vast sums wasted on PPE that isn’t fit for purpose. 

"We have a Government, and a Prime Minister, contemptuous of transparency and apparently allergic to accountability. The very least that the public deserves now is the truth." 

From Jolyon Maugham, Director of Good Law Project

Not going to hold my breath waiting for DRoss calling for a vote of no confidence in BoJos for misleading Westminster.

"3 days after the High Court ruled Government had acted unlawfully by failing to publish Covid contracts, Boris Johnson stood up in the House of Commons and reassured MPs and the public that all Covid-related contracts were “on the record”. However, the final Order handed down by the Judge today shows that what the Prime Minister told the House was not true. 

"The Judge confirmed:

“The Defendant has published 608 out of 708 relevant contracts for supplies and services relating to COVID-19 awarded on or before 7 October 2020. In some or all of these cases, the Defendant acted unlawfully by failing to publish the contracts within the period set out in the Crown Commercial Service’s Publication of Central Government Tenders and Contracts: Central Government Transparency Guidance Note (November 2017).”

"Remarkably, the Judge’s Order is based on Government’s own figures – so at the same time as Johnson was falsely reassuring MPs, Government lawyers were preparing a statement contradicting him – revealing 100 contracts and dozens of Contract Award Notices were missing from the public record. You can read the final Court Order here and consequential judgment in full here. 

"Over the course of the judicial review, Government made no less than four attempts to provide an accurate witness statement setting out the number of contracts and Contract Award Notices that had been published late – and they kept getting it wrong. As late as the hearing itself, they said they had published 28% of Contract Award Notices within the 30 day legal limit. 

"But when asked by the Judge to follow up with evidence of the figures so he could make his final Order, it transpired that Government had actually only published 3% of CANs in the legal timeframe. 

" Government has not only misled Parliament and placed inaccurate information before the Court, it has misled the country. 

" Unless contract details are published they cannot be properly scrutinised – there’s no way of knowing where taxpayers’ money is going and why. Billions have been spent with those linked to the Conservative Party and vast sums wasted on PPE that isn’t fit for purpose. 

"We have a Government, and a Prime Minister, contemptuous of transparency and apparently allergic to accountability. The very least that the public deserves now is the truth." 

From Jolyon Maugham, Director of Good Law Project

Here's a summary of the current state of play by Another Angry Voice

[emoji838] Priti Patel sacked for breaching the ministerial code by holding treasonous secret meetings with foreign state officials, aimed at siphoning off the UK aid budget into their illegally occupied territories.

Tories: Let's bring her back into government, and put her in charge of the Home Office, that'll be good for a laugh.

[emoji838] Tory Housing Minister Robert Jenrick breaches the ministerial code (and the law) by colluding with a property developer diddle £40 million off one of Britain's most deprived local councils.

Tories: This is all a fuss over nothing. £40 million is mere pocket change to people like us. He can stay in his job.

[emoji838] Tory Prime Minister Boris Johnson unlawfully suspends parliament to evade democratic scrutiny of his shambolic Brexit bodge job, then bare-faced lies to the entire nation that he's not creating a regulatory border between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, when that's precisely what he did do.

Tories: This is all above board, and Boris is doing a fantastic job

[emoji838] Priti Patel is found to have breached the ministerial code again, this time by savagely bullying her subordinates to such an extent that one of them was reduced to contemplating suicide, and another highly respected civil servant quit his job claiming constructive dismissal.

Tories: We must "form a square" around Priti. She will not be held to account over this.

[emoji838] Tory government ministers repeatedly and egregiously breach the ministerial code by briefing major policy announcements to their chums in the corporate media, instead of announcing them in parliament, as stipulated in section 9.1 ("the most important
announcements of Government policy should be made in
the first instance, in Parliament").

Tories: Why on earth would we announce things in parliament, where opposition politicians could potentially hold us to account, when we're guaranteed the easiest possible ride whenever we leak the plans to friendly hacks in the right-wing propaganda rags?

[emoji838] Tory Health Secretary Matt Hancock uses the coronavirus pandemic as an excuse to launch an absolute orgy of corruption, handing out £billions in untendered contracts to his spivvy mates, tax-dodgers, scammers, empty shell companies with no employees and no experience of medical procurement, and even his former pub landlord. Furthermore he's found to have acted unlawfully by keeping the details of these ridiculously dodgy untendered contracts secret.

Tories: This is so unfair, all the corruption and lawlessness we engaged in was necessary because our policy of deliberately allowing the virus to spread in the crucial early stages created absolute pandemonium!

🟠 SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon is accused of breaching the ministerial code over her handling of the false accusations against former SNP leader Alex Salmond.

Tories: This is an absolute disgrace, Sturgeon must resign!

I've seen reports that the SNP picked up another 7,000 new members yesterday on the back of this farce, so, to answer your question, there's not a chance she'll lose her job.

You can't accuse salmonbuddie of indulging in whataboutery and then do the very same thing yourself.
What has McLeish and the actions of the SNP from 20 years ago got to do with the current situation? Are you going to bring up the Tartan Tories "scandal" next??  

Sturgeon did absolutely fine yesterday and frankly this should be closed down right now as she has no case to answer. This is a creepy man (Salmond) pulling the usual creepy man shite by trying to deflect the blame for his self-confessed creepy behaviour onto someone else by playing the victim card. He should be hunted for the utter c**t that he is.
Those who think Salmond performed better might want to consider that he made no attempt whatsoever to apologise to the victims of what he himself described as his inappropriate behaviour whereas Sturgeon made a point of doing exactly that.
The bigger picture is that Salmond made it all about him. Sturgeon showed plenty of empathy and humility about her own failings.
That will have gone down very well with the electorate and is why she is the only game in town when it comes to running our country. There isn't another politician at Holyrood fit to lick her boots right now.

Ta, salmonbuddie!
That was so easy when there's a signpost - Officegate!
Officegate - Wikipedia
I still can't see why he needed to resign - apart from a misplaced sense of honesty and honour.  Baffling. 
Not all politicians are built like that, I guess.

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The state of this. ^^^^

But the independence movement in Scotland doesn't demarcate against nationality, if you're registered to vote in Scotland you will have a vote in Indyref2 regardless of your nationality. And it's also why you don't get a vote in it.

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But the independence movement in Scotland doesn't demarcate against nationality, if you're registered to vote in Scotland you will have a vote in Indyref2 regardless of your nationality. And it's also why you don't get a vote in it.

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But the independence movement in Scotland doesn't demarcate against nationality, if you're registered to vote in Scotland you will have a vote in Indyref2 regardless of your nationality. And it's also why you don't get a vote in it.

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All they would need to do was elect a party into power on the back of that commitment. A bit like the upcoming election in May, in fact, just the other way round.

f**kin fascist fruitloop!   
 

Yes that right Antrin. She makes her “mistakes” on National prime time television news and then apologises on Twitter.
Nice. 
 
ETA- and how can that be described as a mistake. I once made a mistake when I was about 5 when I told my mother I hadn’t nicked one of the meter shillings off the mantelpiece and bought sweets. Oh no, wait a minute, that wasn’t as mistake, it was just a lie that I told to suit my own agenda. 

Correct. One a city within a country within a political union. The other an entire country within a political union. Let’s not be silly by trying to say they are the same thing. That would indeed be a bit dumb.
I do live in a crown dependency and in 2014 I absolutely correctly did not have a vote. Nor indeed should I have had one. That does not mean that I didn’t care. On the contrary I did everything in my albeit limited power to campaign for Yes, alongside my family who still live in Scotland and who unanimously voted Yes.
Suggesting that because I live in Jersey, I have no right to an opinion on Scottish independence is a bit like saying when ye leave yer mammy and daddy’s hoose, you’ve nae right to an opinion on what happens tae yer mammy and daddy. 

Me neither, I blame Thatcher for everything...

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Not my favourite cider but that's a bit OTT...

Me neither, I blame Thatcher for everything...

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Me neither, I blame Thatcher for everything...

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Me neither, I blame Thatcher for everything...

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Me neither, I blame Thatcher for everything...

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In his defence he is genuinely like that. He's a Rangers fan but his daughter has bought Buddies season tickets for her 3 kids and he's been known to take them to games - if asked, they're the only reason he's there!

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