Stuart Dickson Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Read it and weep blubber boy! http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/news/1327913-stv-poll-scots-would-vote-yes-if-a-second-referendum-were-held-now/ The probably had a brown shirt Natsi conducting the poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 He is entitled to post whenever and whatever he likes. And he has not posted in the incorrect Section. Reply to him or not. No need for meltdowns. Keep up the good work Stu. Thanks Shull. It's in the right section, appropriately headed. Anyone not wanting to read it can avoid it with ease. Instead these Natsi's can't help themselves. They have to post either to attempt to pour scorn - like Coward1987 tries to do - or to try to silence their political opposition. It's really sad what politics in Scotland has become Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Read it and weep blubber boy! http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/news/1327913-stv-poll-scots-would-vote-yes-if-a-second-referendum-were-held-now/ I'm not ready to believe the balance has shifted that far towards Yes just yet but it's welcome news that this simply isn't going away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm not ready to believe the balance has shifted that far towards Yes just yet but it's welcome news that this simply isn't going away. Nor am I, but I know how much it infuriates fat boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 The probably had a brown shirt Natsi conducting the poll You can say what you want and you can phrase it however you like. It's not going to change the fact that independence is coming sooner rather than later. After a Yes vote it simply won't matter how much you bash your gums - we'll have got the independence we wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 How would you know, Babykiller? You've proven time and time again that you know nothing about politics. He's a Tory supporter from Motherwell. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sally02 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Thanks Shull. It's in the right section, appropriately headed. Anyone not wanting to read it can avoid it with ease. Instead these Natsi's can't help themselves. They have to post either to attempt to pour scorn - like Coward1987 tries to do - or to try to silence their political opposition. It's really sad what politics in Scotland has become Politics in Scotland has become what it is, due to decades of neglect from both ruling parties in Westminster, sir, and it may surprise you to know that the biggest catalyst in the drive towards the current political climate, was one Lady Margaret Thatcher, that democratic, understanding, listening, all encompassing leader of the party you purport to be best for Britain. If there was ever a more self-centred, devious, twisting politician, who disregarded even her own kind in Cabinet, and most definitely ALL the people of Scotland, then I would be glad if you could enlighten me. Your crusade on here is typical of the have's disregarding the have nots, for their own political and financial ends. Can you really stand up and feel proud of the list Cameron has put forward for membership of the House of Lords? The rise of the SNP and other smaller parties will continue until local people feel more in control of their own destinies. Toryism is every bit as bad and corrupt at all levels of politics as any other political persuasion, and until you face up to that reality, you will undoubtedly remain the butt of others amusement on here. Attention seeking seems to be your goal, so dive in there, sir, and carry on the good work of reducing your party in Scotland to numbers in-sufficient to fill St. Mirren's mini-bus! Edited September 2, 2015 by sally02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Politics in Scotland has become what it is, due to decades of neglect from both ruling parties in Westminster, sir, and it may surprise you to know that the biggest catalyst in the drive towards the current political climate, was one Lady Margaret Thatcher, that democratic, understanding, listening, all encompassing leader of the party you purport to be best for Britain. If there was ever a more self-centred, devious, twisting politician, who disregarded even her own kind in Cabinet, and most definitely ALL the people of Scotland, then I would be glad if you could enlighten me. Your crusade on here is typical of the have's disregarding the have nots, for their own political and financial ends. Can you really stand up and feel proud of the list Cameron has put forward for membership of the House of Lords? The rise of the SNP and other smaller parties will continue until local people feel more in control of their own destinies. Toryism is every bit as bad and corrupt at all levels of politics as any other political persuasion, and until you face up to that reality, you will undoubtedly remain the butt of others amusement on here. Attention seeking seems to be your goal, so dive in there, sir, and carry on the good work of reducing your party in Scotland to numbers in-sufficient to fill St. Mirren's mini-bus! 31.4% of the vote in Scotland. 22 Scottish seats that saw Thatcher take power in 1979. Many Scots loved Thatcher. They loved the fact that she set up a society where even a working man, like a welder, a pipefitter, even a labourer or a shop assistant could buy and own their own home. They loved that Thatcher rewarded hard work with low taxes and they loved the fact that Thatcher stood up manfully, with real courage, against the nuclear threat of the expansionist USSR and that she regularly battered the Presidents within the EU to ensure the UK got the best possible deal - ensuring we became one of the only member states with the power of veto if we didn't like a law the eurocrats were forcing on the rest of Europe. Despite it being unfashionable to be Scottish and to like Thatcher many Scots voted for her time and time again at the ballot box - and thank christ they did too. Can you imagine what Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock or that homophobic wanker Gordon Wilson would have done to the country! Edited September 2, 2015 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sally02 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) 31.4% of the vote in Scotland. 22 Scottish seats that saw Thatcher take power in 1979. Many Scots loved Thatcher. They loved the fact that she set up a society where even a working man, like a welder, a pipefitter, even a labourer or a shop assistant could buy and own their own home. They loved that Thatcher rewarded hard work with low taxes and they loved the fact that Thatcher stood up manfully, with real courage, against the nuclear threat of the expansionist USSR and that she regularly battered the Presidents within the EU to ensure the UK got the best possible deal - ensuring we became one of the only member states with the power of veto if we didn't like a law the eurocrats were forcing on the rest of Europe. Despite it being unfashionable to be Scottish and to like Thatcher many Scots voted for her time and time again at the ballot box - and thank christ they did too. Can you imagine what Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock or that homophobic wanker Gordon Wilson would have done to the country! That was 1979 - at the start of yet another period of Westminster shambolic government. Figure in 2015 election was 14.1% of the vote, down 1.8% from 2010, and oh, down 17.3% from 1979! Is there a trend there? More than many hated her. A society now where young people starting out can neither afford to buy a house or find one of the few council houses in the country. Europe - best possible deal? Sold out the steel industry, the ship-building, the off-shore fishing industry. You should have gone to Specsavers! Going to my bed now, but I'll try to get up at 4.40 to catch the next shock horror revelation ! Edited September 2, 2015 by sally02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 That was 1979 - at the start of yet another period of Westminster shambolic government. Figure in 2015 election was 14.1% of the vote, down 1.8% from 2010, and oh, down 17.3% from 1979! Is there a trend there? More than many hated her. A society now where young people starting out can neither afford to buy a house or find one of the few council houses in the country. Europe - best possible deal? Sold out the steel industry, the ship-building, the off-shore fishing industry. You should have gone to Specsavers! Going to my bed now, but I'll try to get up at 4.40 to catch the next shock horror revelation ! The steel industry in Scotland was f**ked the minute the unions at Roots started to f**k about. When they lost Scotland our car manufacturing plant Ravenscraig was always living on borrowed time. Thatcher actually managed to keep Ravenscraig workers in jobs and earning handsomely during the damaging miners strike by ensuring coal got through no matter what. Many Scottish history revisionists conveniently forget that fact. ...and ship building.....really? Most of the shipyards on the Clyde had gone way before 1979. The world had moved away from big boats and a new form of transport was taking people around the world. Socialists might well have missed it but companies in Scotland like Rolls Royce were booming thanks to the air industry. We also saw massive investment in new technology in Scotland with companies like Motorola, Sun and IBM investing massively in the country during Thatchers reign. Scotland modernised under Thatcher in a way that it hadn't ever before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 And back on topic ofcourse - we shouldn't forget that the Natsi way of doing things in Scotland is to run our NHS into the ground, severely damage our education system with falling standards across the board, and the absolute demolition of our Police Force where moral has hit rock bottom thanks to some unbelievably stupid SNP Policies being imposed. On top of that we discover today that one of our former Lord Advocate has slammed the SNP plans to release even more of our convicts early saying that judges are set to ignore the instruction. She also heavily criticised the SNPs short term attitude to funding justice schemes. And in terms of investment - only a year ago Alex Salmond was striking a low tax deal with Amazon of all people to try to encourage them to set their HQ up in Scotland. Yes that's right, one of the worldwide leaders in zero hour contracts and the bullying of minimum wage staff. Forget employers who pay their staff well and supply good working conditions. The SNP were out to make Scotland the new low paid sweatshop of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) 31.4% of the vote in Scotland. 22 Scottish seats that saw Thatcher take power in 1979. Many Scots loved Thatcher. They loved the fact that she set up a society where even a working man, like a welder, a pipefitter, even a labourer or a shop assistant could buy and own their own home. They loved that Thatcher rewarded hard work with low taxes and they loved the fact that Thatcher stood up manfully, with real courage, against the nuclear threat of the expansionist USSR and that she regularly battered the Presidents within the EU to ensure the UK got the best possible deal - ensuring we became one of the only member states with the power of veto if we didn't like a law the eurocrats were forcing on the rest of Europe. Despite it being unfashionable to be Scottish and to like Thatcher many Scots voted for her time and time again at the ballot box - and thank christ they did too. Can you imagine what Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock or that homophobic wanker Gordon Wilson would have done to the country! Scotland loved thatcher so much that during her time in office the number of seats the Tories held in Scotland more than halved to their lowest seat count since 1918.Yeah we really loved that woman. Edited September 2, 2015 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Why wont he answer the two simple questions. What was it that someone wrote about silencing political debate. His response is deafening. I've got you on ignore Coward1987 - so I didn't see the original question. I'm afraid I couldn't offer you an answer anyway. You'd need to ask Jim Cassidy who he thinks did it. It's clear from his article though he blames the party for the intimidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Scotland loved thatcher so much that during her time in office the number of seats the Tories held in Scotland more than halved to their lowest seat count since 1918. Yeah we really loved that woman. She beat the Natsi's every single time she went up against them. We certainly loved her more than we loved the SNP or the idea of Independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 How did the bigot manage to miss this? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-party-may-take-action-after-local-councillor-claims-prospective-mp-was-rejected-due-to-handicap-of-being-brown-and-a-woman-9917951.html Dunno, how did you miss it, bigot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) There you go StuD, even the bloodsucker wants to know how you missed it. Edited September 3, 2015 by salmonbuddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 This is an interesting article on the demise of British industry. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/nov/16/why-britain-doesnt-make-things-manufacturing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I blame the SNP. They're Bad, and responsible for all the Uk's ills. Just ask StuD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sally02 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) This is an interesting article on the demise of British industry. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/nov/16/why-britain-doesnt-make-things-manufacturing This clearly shows that the short-term financial prudence flagged up in the name of industrial modernisation was achieved at the expense of once proud communities the length and breadth of the UK, and the costs of these policies are still being felt in ghost-like deprived communities in places like the North East, Wales, and all over what was the industrial communities in Scotland. We are still living and feeling the brutal effects of policy makers who were financially and socially immune to the policies they implemented, and hence the reason that people are now moving towards the political model that we are seeing unfolding. If you can't see that Mr. Dickson, then you are a sorry person. Edited September 3, 2015 by sally02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 This clearly shows that the short-term financial prudence flagged up in the name of industrial modernisation was achieved at the expense of once proud communities the length and breadth of the UK, and the costs of these policies are still being felt in ghost-like deprived communities in places like the North East, Wales, and all over what was the industrial communities in Scotland. We are still living and feeling the brutal effects of policy makers who were financially and socially immune to the policies they implemented, and hence the reason that people are now moving towards the political model that we are seeing unfolding. If you can't see that Mr. Dickson, then you are a sorry person. What a load of shite and you totally miss the mark even in terms of timing. Lets take the North East England from your examples - since it's the most topical in the news today with Nissan announcing a £100m investment in their Sunderland plant with the new Nissan Juke to be manufactured there. Nissan was attracted to the UK in 1984 by the Thatcher government. Since then they've gone on to build a record number of cars in a year for any UK car manufacturer. According to their press release they build 500,000 cars there last year with their Qashqai, Juke, Note and Leaf models continuing to sell very well across Europe. There's also been massive investment in Doxford near Sunderland with companies like EE and EDF Energy all having been major employers there since the International Business Park was opened in 1992 after investment from the Thatcher Government. Then there's all the major Public Service employers who provide some 22% of all the jobs in the North East of England in departments like the Child Maintenance Service and HMRC and I'm only scratching the surface of the huge number of jobs that have been created in that region since the coal mines shut. Even your assumptions from the article are flawed. Manufacturing in the UK needs people buying their products and the problems faced by manufacturing was put into sharp focus by Mary Portas in a TV programme a couple of years ago. She believed that with costs rising in China that she could prove that UK manufacturing could be cheaper and more profitable for employers and to prove the point she reopened a sewing factory making lace knickers - brand "Kinky Knickers" - that would be made from scratch using only UK suppliers. She employed her workforce - all long term unemployed. She trained them on minimum wage using available government grants and she found retailers ready and willing to sell their products in huge numbers. So popular was the idea that she secured a massive first run order and had the factory working flat out to meet the demand. Indeed the knickers sold out within days at £10 per pair - a price point to compete with the likes of the David Beckham brand whose manufacturing is done in China. It looked like a success story until Portas reviewed what they had achieved and frankly the knickers weren't going to be profitable in year two when many of the government grants would expire. She went back to her retailers and asked them to buy a second run of orders at £15 per pair - they did but in smaller numbers. The programme ended at that point. A check on the internet shows the brand still exists and is still in business which is fantastic. Their website - which sells direct to the public cutting out the retailer - is still selling the knickers at £15 per pair. Thongs have been added to the range at a cost of £9 per pair. But the question still exists, if that is the price point that makes the company profitable paying minimum wage only, how can UK manufacturing compete with the price point of "designer" items imported from China and selling in high street retailers for less than half the price? Unless all of us in the UK see "Made In The UK" as a premium product that we are prepared to seek out and pay extra for how is the manufacturing industry ever going to be profitable when we move from minimum wage to living wage over the next few years. How much do you pay for your knickers Sally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Older stories, but more evidence of the sinister Natsi operation around the country In Edinburgh http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-accused-using-intimidation-tactics-5186824 In Dumfries http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3071622/Fears-voting-Scotland-disrupted-intimidating-SNP-supporters-plan-arrive-late-follow-counting-staff-police-issue-warnings-polling-stations.html In Glasgow http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11529177/The-bullying-behind-the-SNPs-smiles.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 She beat the Natsi's every single time she went up against them. We certainly loved her more than we loved the SNP or the idea of Independence. And if it was 1979 again I'd agree you'd have a point. It isn't and you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 And if it was 1979 again I'd agree you'd have a point. It isn't and you don't. And 83, 87 and 92. Indeed it took till this year for the SNP, for the first time ever, to get more Scottish votes than Thatcher did in 1979. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 He is entitled to post whenever and whatever he likes. And he has not posted in the incorrect Section. Reply to him or not. No need for meltdowns. Keep up the good work Stu. Yeah great work!!! Virtual West Bank, B&W Army, and SMFC, cant see anywhere in the advertising or marketing that is for right wing fascists to ply shite. But as you say its a free country (apparently) You should try read that tossers post rather than just adding to the pish that you normally spout on other subjects. Oh and taxi boy that's my view point so take it or leave it Rattled me , No!! I reckon we can beat QOS. Opps sorry football related!! But happy to instead of discussing our line up or tactics to talk about Nazis in Scotland. That's a very poor subject heading, poor taste and obviously no understanding what that represents. Some Daily Star readers on this forum , and like the Daily Star full of tits. If the hat fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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