Stuart Dickson Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Germans are now demanding a referendum on their continued membership of the EU. And according to the Pew Research Centre over 40% of Germans want to follow the UK in leaving. Sweden and Netherlands also look likely to leave if they too have a referendum most of their nation wants. It looks like Angus Robertson is going to have to choose between a Britain where our economy has held strong and a severely diminished EU that has lost its two biggest economies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 And in other news the FTSE 100 finished up 22 points on where it was last Thursday before the referendum result was known and the pound continued its rally against the $. The doom merchants are looking pretty stupid if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 So one week on from the vote has anyone 'taken the country back' yet, or are they still trying to find a receipt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Looking out my window , the good folks of Cardonald carry on their lifes, seemingly without a worry in the World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: And in other news the FTSE 100 finished up 22 points on where it was last Thursday before the referendum result was known and the pound continued its rally against the $. The doom merchants are looking pretty stupid if you ask me. One reason for this is the markets are betting that we don't leave. The language being used even by big working class Boris is very conciliatory. If we don't leave after the workings class voted to leave there could well be trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 2 hours ago, nosferatu said: it's funny to see the Scottish middle class lefties whinging about the leave vote the folk that voted leave, the working class, are the ones that these well off lefties pretend to care about! social unrest spilling into the streets? aye, I can just see the middle class pretend socialists spilling onto the streets! tony the gimp soprano leading them The social unrest will be in England when the Tories fail to deliver the referendum result that they voted for. Similar to the poll tax riots that got rid of Maggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 One reason for this is the markets are betting that we don't leave. The language being used even by big working class Boris is very conciliatory. If we don't leave after the workings class voted to leave there could well be trouble. No I don't think so. It's simpler than that. The markets have simply realised nothing has changed. It's quite incredible when you think about it. The PM has resigned, the opposition has had a vote of no confidence in their leader, credit ratings agencies have downgraded the UK economy and yet still the markets are stronger than they were a week ago. The focus will turn onto the EU now IMO. Greece needs another bail out, it's lost its second biggest economy. Germany, Sweden and Netherlands people want their own referendums. Finland and France have called for the UK to get the free market without freedom of movement with the Finnish PM stating clearly that the EU needs the freedom of financial services that London provides, and there's a growing feeling within the EU that they can't count on NATO support anymore now the UK is leaving and this dreaded EU Army that the UK really didn't fancy being part of is closer to reality than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Stuart Dickson said: Germans are now demanding a referendum on their continued membership of the EU. And according to the Pew Research Centre over 40% of Germans want to follow the UK in leaving. Sweden and Netherlands also look likely to leave if they too have a referendum most of their nation wants. It looks like Angus Robertson is going to have to choose between a Britain where our economy has held strong and a severely diminished EU that has lost its two biggest economies. Wow a whole 40% want a new referendum. In your words wouldn't that be anti democratic to the 60% that don't want a referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: No I don't think so. It's simpler than that. The markets have simply realised nothing has changed. It's quite incredible when you think about it. The PM has resigned, the opposition has had a vote of no confidence in their leader, credit ratings agencies have downgraded the UK economy and yet still the markets are stronger than they were a week ago. The focus will turn onto the EU now IMO. Greece needs another bail out, it's lost its second biggest economy. Germany, Sweden and Netherlands people want their own referendums. Finland and France have called for the UK to get the free market without freedom of movement with the Finnish PM stating clearly that the EU needs the freedom of financial services that London provides, and there's a growing feeling within the EU that they can't count on NATO support anymore now the UK is leaving and this dreaded EU Army that the UK really didn't fancy being part of is closer to reality than ever. Wait and see what happens when and if article 50 is ever invoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Wow a whole 40% want a new referendum. In your words wouldn't that be anti democratic to the 60% that don't want a referendum? Are you struggling to read? 40% want out not 40% want a referendum. This is Germany were talking about not Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Wait and see what happens when and if article 50 is ever invoked. It won't be any worse than the last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Stuart Dickson said: Are you struggling to read? 40% want out not 40% want a referendum. This is Germany were talking about not Scotland Oops my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 A sensible article on the cost of Brexit. Yields on government bonds have fallen meaning the UK taxpayer is paying less in interest against government borrowing so it looks like we may already be saving money which could be used in the NHS....although I'd rather that extra cash was used to reduce the deficit. Makes you wonder why the SNP are getting all hot and bothered about the EU. Brexit has all been good news so far and there is still no sign of any adverse outcomes http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36661918?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook Please note this is government bonds... Not Slartibartfasts premium bonds - the return on that hasn't changed so pensioners aren't affected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: A sensible article on the cost of Brexit. Yields on government bonds have fallen meaning the UK taxpayer is paying less in interest against government borrowing so it looks like we may already be saving money which could be used in the NHS....although I'd rather that extra cash was used to reduce the deficit. Makes you wonder why the SNP are getting all hot and bothered about the EU. Brexit has all been good news so far and there is still no sign of any adverse outcomes http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36661918?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook Please note this is government bonds... Not Slartibartfasts premium bonds - the return on that hasn't changed so pensioners aren't affected FFS Article 50 hasnt been invoked yet. Come back when it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stuart Dickson said: Are you struggling to read? 40% want out not 40% want a referendum. This is Germany were talking about not Scotland So Germany want to quite categorically remain in the EU then. I take it that's what you were trying to highlight as that is all that stat confirms. With Gove humping BoJo today the withdrawal looks more like a re-negotiation by the minute as most balanced people expected all along. Who would have thought at the weekend the Brexit camp would have imploded quite so spectacularly within a few days of the result....actually most sensible people who knew the Tories never had any intention of leaving right from the start regardless of the result !!! Edited June 30, 2016 by Ayrshire Saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, bud77 said: Ive no idea why you've brought the snp into this discussion, I do. SNP baaaaaaaaaaaad........................ It's his default position when he's made a rip roaring c**t of himself, yet again. He's a tad obsessed with SNP for some reason or other. In other news nothing has changed since last Friday. FTSE 100 and FTSE 250 both open lower Government to delay airport expansion decision Brexit may derail UK Tata Steel sale Singapore bank halts UK property loans Obama warns on global growth after Brexit vote Edited June 30, 2016 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 On 24 June 2016 at 7:42 PM, TopCat said: He's positioning himself and trying to portray himself as dignified, he will be our next prime minister. He knows it aswell as anyone. Deep down he will be absolutely delighted. He's out of the race, not surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmac Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Yep, he's saying "big boy done it and ran away", "it wisny me". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, melmac said: Yep, he's saying "big boy done it and ran away", "it wisny me". No it's more like he's made the bullets, loaded the gun and wants some other sucker to fire it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: Are you struggling to read? 40% want out not 40% want a referendum. This is Germany were talking about not Scotland What's your point? 55-45 is according to you an overwhelming victory so 60-40 is an absolute landslide in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Looking out my window , the good folks of Cardonald carry on their lifes, seemingly without a worry in the World. That'll be the prescription medication ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 6 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said: So Germany want to quite categorically remain in the EU then. I take it that's what you were trying to highlight as that is all that stat confirms. With Gove humping BoJo today the withdrawal looks more like a re-negotiation by the minute as most balanced people expected all along. Who would have thought at the weekend the Brexit camp would have imploded quite so spectacularly within a few days of the result....actually most sensible people who knew the Tories never had any intention of leaving right from the start regardless of the result !!! Well Michael Portillo always claimed that if it was the general practice that we'd just keep renegotiating and running referendums until the majority in the UK were going to vote to remain then the obvious way to vote was to leave. So if most sensible people knew exactly as you claimed they should have voted leave as this gives the UK the best possible negotiating position to be in. I take it you were one of the stupid ones, like me, who voted to remain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 21 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: Well Michael Portillo always claimed that if it was the general practice that we'd just keep renegotiating and running referendums until the majority in the UK were going to vote to remain then the obvious way to vote was to leave. So if most sensible people knew exactly as you claimed they should have voted leave as this gives the UK the best possible negotiating position to be in. I take it you were one of the stupid ones, like me, who voted to remain? I wouldn't put too much faith in anything the Spanish train spotter ever said. We now have a ludicrous situation where a party that never wanted to leave the EU is imploding as it tries to seek a way out of leaving. No one really wants to be the fall guy / girl so you have the big hitters distancing themselves from it leaving those most thought would be peripheral figures to fight it out as they know despite the impossible situation this is there one and only shot at glory. This is surely going to end in a general election (given Labour's woes I would call one at the earliest opportunity) and most probably a further referendum on our vastly reduced "exit in name only" withdrawal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: And in other news the FTSE 100 finished up 22 points on where it was last Thursday before the referendum result was known and the pound continued its rally against the $. The doom merchants are looking pretty stupid if you ask me. You need to convince Mark Carney, not us . Only one person looking stupid (as usual) tonight ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E=Mc2 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 23 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: So, if the UK economy prospers outside the EU then the Germans will also probably leave, France won't see the point after that and also leave, most/all western European countries follow after, leaving only an east-European Union which then falls under the Russian sphere of influence and the world descends into another Cold War - and it's all the fault of Boris. Looks like the UK needs to crash and burn to save the world. : Isn't the name Boris a giveaway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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