Stuart Dickson Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Dear oh dear Mr Bundy. Did you engage your brain before reposting any of Stewart Campbell cultish shite. For example in each one of those projects you mention, Scotlands got back MORE than it spent thanks to the consequentials in the Barnett Formula. And of course the rUK has contributed significantly to projects like the M74 extension, the M8 extention, the M9 spur link, the new Forth Road bridge, the upgrade at the Raithy Interchange, the Borders railway, and the upgrade of Queen Street Station as well as the huge sums of money wasted on unused cycle lanes in Scotland amongst many other projects. It also has and continues to contribute to the cost of many of the new schools the SNP like to take credit for and it makes a huge contribution to the cost of running the police, the NHS and the Scottish Education System, each of which the SNP have systematically destroyed with its mismanagement. The fact that Scotland can spend £15Bn more than it raises is obvious testimony to the huge contribution the rUK makes to Scotland. None of your bulls hit details how an independent Scotland would replace all that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Tory's wasted billions http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0803b0s/whos-spending-britains-billions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Fatty still quoting GERS. He had his arse handed to him on a plate before on this. 1. Ian Lang deliberately concocted this nonsense in a bid to undermine devolution. That really worked didnt it. 2. Scotland only receives 2 per cent of the overall oil tax take. Plus the figures don't include its exports which are passing via English ports as well. Ergo, Scotland cant spend more than it receives from London.Then again Stuart, like any other thick Yoon, will believe anything handed to him from Hague, Alan Cochrane and his ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Fatty still quoting GERS. He had his arse handed to him on a plate before on this. 1. Ian Lang deliberately concocted this nonsense in a bid to undermine devolution. That really worked didnt it. 2. Scotland only receives 2 per cent of the overall oil tax take. Plus the figures don't include its exports which are passing via English ports as well. Ergo, Scotland cant spend more than it receives from London.Then again Stuart, like any other thick Yoon, will believe anything handed to him from Hague, Alan Cochrane and his ilk. So show me your figures Zippy. How do you reckon the Scottish Government can replace the money from the Barnett Formula to allow the Scottish Parliament spending to continue at its current rate. Don't spare the detail mind. I'm expecting as convincing a case as was laid out in the original article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Do your homework Stuart. As you are quick to point out at other posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I'll give him a wee clue since he desperately needs help. A wee look at the 'So Farewell then Scottish Independence' will tell him all he needs to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Dear oh dear Mr Bundy. Did you engage your brain before reposting any of Stewart Campbell cultish shite. For example in each one of those projects you mention, Scotlands got back MORE than it spent thanks to the consequentials in the Barnett Formula. And of course the rUK has contributed significantly to projects like the M74 extension, the M8 extention, the M9 spur link, the new Forth Road bridge, the upgrade at the Raithy Interchange, the Borders railway, and the upgrade of Queen Street Station as well as the huge sums of money wasted on unused cycle lanes in Scotland amongst many other projects. It also has and continues to contribute to the cost of many of the new schools the SNP like to take credit for and it makes a huge contribution to the cost of running the police, the NHS and the Scottish Education System, each of which the SNP have systematically destroyed with its mismanagement. The fact that Scotland can spend £15Bn more than it raises is obvious testimony to the huge contribution the rUK makes to Scotland. None of your bulls hit details how an independent Scotland would replace all that money. Apologies for quoting the trolling liar, but can anyone provide figures for these Scottish Government projects that he claims UK gov contributed to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 There's that optimism again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: So show me your figures Zippy. How do you reckon the Scottish Government can replace the money from the Barnett Formula to allow the Scottish Parliament spending to continue at its current rate. Don't spare the detail mind. I'm expecting as convincing a case as was laid out in the original article Don't bother Zippy. The man is obsessed beyond all reason. One life lesson I learned many, many years ago is that one should not try and reason with the unreasonable but rather ignore the unreasonable as one has no reason to be reasonable with the unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 You might want to mention the complete clusterf**k that was Labour PFI projects that account for 1bn quid that went down the gurgler.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Slarti's optimism is spreading if you think he wants that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 You might want to mention the complete clusterf**k that was Labour PFI projects that account for 1bn quid that went down the gurgler.... I didn't agree with PFI and i didn't vote for the Labour Party. However that £1bn per year cost is on the accounts now. How do the SNP propose to pay for it when the block grant through the Barnett Formula ends? Nicola Sturgeon herself opened Scotlands latest PFI project at the City Of Glasgow College. She was happy to extol the virtues of a College that would host up to 10000 students per year. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/15/scotland-pfi-boom-public-spending-holyrood-snp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Like I said, go and look at the thread I mentioned above.If you can read, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Like I said, go and look at the thread I mentioned above.If you can read, that is. I've read the thread Zippy. I can't see any detail on where the extra money will come from that hasn't been discredited by people will far greater economic credentials than me. The problem the Natsi has is without economic credibility that shows Scotland would definitely be better off outside the political union your case is redundant, just as it was in 2014. Only now we can all see the SNP oil figures for the laughable mess they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Thats because you can't read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 2 hours ago, The Real Zippy said: Thats because you can't read. No. I read it. Every single one of the claims made on there have been debunked, easily. Go on Zippy, lay out your financial plans to raise an extra £15Bn per annum to help cover Scotlands current rate of spending. I won't even ask you to cost out the additional pledges that the SNP have made. I'll keep it simple for you. All you've got to do is find £15Bn per annum. Convince me of your case and I might even vote for independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Have they been debunked Stuart? Go on, show us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Have they been debunked Stuart? Go on, show us. It is rude to answer a question with a question.You first... ... ... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: No. I read it. Every single one of the claims made on there have been debunked, easily. Go on Zippy, lay out your financial plans to raise an extra £15Bn per annum to help cover Scotlands current rate of spending. I won't even ask you to cost out the additional pledges that the SNP have made. I'll keep it simple for you. All you've got to do is find £15Bn per annum. Convince me of your case and I might even vote for independence. Try this for size Stuart. How is the UK deficit being addressed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, smcc said: Try this for size Stuart. How is the UK deficit being addressed? The 350 million a week we will save for coming out of Europe will leave us with more money than we know what to do with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 No. I read it. : In the same way as you read the article on tagging you quoted that had an inmate detailing how tagging let him stay at home and commit crimes? Because no-one else could read that, it was only in your head. Why would we believe anything you write? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Who said this, then?"You don’t get a referendum for free, you have to earn it. So if the Greens and the SNP – and the SSP or any of the other parties who’ve declared an interest in independence – get over the line and can make a coalition, make a majority, get the votes in the Parliament, then they’ll vote through a referendum, and that’s what democracy’s all about… it’s perfectly simple”Here's a couple of clues; it was on election night 2011; it was a gay pro-unionist party leader; said party currently has the 2nd largest number of seats at Holyrood (I was going to say "Scottish seats at WM" but that doesn't help, they all got 1 each - count them, 3 in total). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 So that's a no to being able to cost out a reasonable case for independence then? Am I going to be better off an in independence Scotland, or will the Scottish Government struggle to replace the £15Bn more that it currently spends than it can raise? It's the single most important issue in any independence referendum. Yet still - 2 years on from the last farce laid out in the SNP White Paper - it appears the Natsi's still haven't managed to work out anything credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Simple question, right at the end - In the same way as you read the article on tagging you quoted that had an inmate detailing how tagging let him stay at home and commit crimes? Because no-one else could read that, it was only in your head. Why would we believe anything you write? And the "answer" - So that's a no to being able to cost out a reasonable case for independence then? Am I going to be better off an in independence Scotland, or will the Scottish Government struggle to replace the £15Bn more that it currently spends than it can raise? It's the single most important issue in any independence referendum. Yet still - 2 years on from the last farce laid out in the SNP White Paper - it appears the Natsi's still haven't managed to work out anything credible. "If I ignore it maybe it didn't happen" type post imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 It was. Why would I lay out 'plans'. I have given Stuart numerous opportunities to read some of the example figures and quote them ad nauseaum. He has chosen not to, or rather ignored them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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