antrin Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, ianmac said: I am not suggesting that some incompetent politician runs them, but someone who knows what the are doing. Presumably the people who are running EDF know the energy market. It was doing well early in the year… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64647854 …and EDF runs ALL 8 of the UK’ nuclear plants. But it’s currently having major problems (IIRC) in building new ones with what they thought were a really good model… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmac Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) Most of the train companies in the UK are run by foreign states. How come they can do it? We only seem to pick up the basket cases. Here’s the full list: c2c: Italian state Chiltern: German state Caledonian sleeper: PRIVATE CrossCountry: German state East Midlands: Dutch state Eurostar: French state Gatwick Express: French state Grand Central: German state Great Northern: French state GWR: PRIVATE Greater Anglia: Dutch state Heathrow Express: PRIVATE Hull Trains: PRIVATE LNER: British state London Northwestern Railway: Dutch state London Overground: German state London Underground: British state Merseyrail: Dutch state Northern: German state Northern Ireland Railways: British state Scotrail: Dutch state South Western Railway: Hong Kong state Southeastern: French state Southern: French state Stansted Express: Dutch state TfL rail: Hong Kong state Thameslink: French state TransPennine Express: PRIVATE Transport for Wales: French state West Coast: Italian state West Midlands Railway: Dutch state Edited December 20, 2023 by ianmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Jesus christ. The battle that working people fought to have a voice and while there are strikes that seem more of an ego trip for union representatives your attitude is frankly......well, hard to find suitable words. 🤡 In some countries union leaders have been murdered, kidnapped, tortured for speaking out on behalf of their members. Perhaps some would rather we just go back to employing slaves, child labour, horrific work conditions, etc, etc as long as they get the odd long weekend (unpaid of course!). An activist whose work I have followed for many years is Mark Thomas. Some of the things he has encountered during his campaigns in the UK and globally are off the scale. One in particular was his views on Coca-cola. This is a bit dated but relevant. More can be found at http://killercoke.org/powerpoint_presentation.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Jesus christ. The battle that working people fought to have a voice and while there are strikes that seem more of an ego trip for union representatives your attitude is frankly......well, hard to find suitable words. 🤡 Why does my 'attitude' matter to anyone else? I'm voting in exactly the same way a militant, unappeasable trade unionist would do. Mine's a pragmatic view, I get an extra day's leave and the union gets my backing. I pay my dues and vote - and remember the union now requires >50% of members to vote for it to be valid - so both myself and the union are winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ianmac said: I am not suggesting that some incompetent politician runs them, but someone who knows what the are doing. Presumably the people who are running EDF know the energy market. I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: I imagine some on here get a buzz out of upsetting folk... 😆 Unrelated, I'm unsure why some folk apparently have a problem with my religious beliefs. I don't force them on anyone else and I have always failed to see how me attending church, reading the Bible and contemplating Christian doctrine is anybody else's business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, W6er said: Why does my 'attitude' matter to anyone else? I'm voting in exactly the same way a militant, unappeasable trade unionist would do. Mine's a pragmatic view, I get an extra day's leave and the union gets my backing. I pay my dues and vote - and remember the union now requires >50% of members to vote for it to be valid - so both myself and the union are winners. You're not voting on the reason a possible strike is being balloted, you're voting to get a day off work. Early Christmas cracker alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigYardsAndBasher Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 What position does this Utility Bills play in and can we afford him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 hours ago, faraway saint said: It seems privatisation isn't all bad. https://hbr.org/1992/01/british-privatization-taking-capitalism-to-the-people Interesting and informative article that takes a balanced view……must be right wing 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BigYardsAndBasher said: What position does this Utility Bills play in and can we afford him? He is a true “utility “ player so can play any position. He has “electric “ pace, leaving defenders “metres” behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: You're not voting on the reason a possible strike is being balloted, you're voting to get a day off work. Yes, exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, W6er said: Yes, exactly. Class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) On 12/19/2023 at 6:36 PM, beyond our ken said: The NHS' biggest problem is the attitude of british people, we just don't look after ourselves properly and expect the state to cover the bill. The ageing population also presents with diseases that are difficult to treat and the outcomes are less good than the same people might have experienced in their younger years, however a decent enough proportion of conditions are preventable, or avoidable, or better mitigated by diet, exercise and moderation The NHS is also somewhat abused by people who turn up looking for hospital attention for trivial diseases. Another of your opinions, stated as fact, that has no basis. Yes. Not only they are healthier, they also are larger, stronger and live longer lives. If they have not managed to impair themselves with bad lifestyles or intoxicants, they may well stay active until their seventies and eighties. Edited December 20, 2023 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigYardsAndBasher Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: He is a true “utility “ player so can play any position. He has “electric “ pace, leaving defenders “metres” behind. I hope we don't overspend and risk all the lights going out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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