Reynard Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Is it really asking to much to expect a set of politicians who are not either creaming the expenses teat the second they arrive in London or who are not engaged in fraud or unethical businesses, tax evasion or tax avoidance? Personally I am sick to death of the "no rules were broken" bollox. If you are found to be deliberately milking the system you should be removed immediately. Forget breaking the rules. We need to incorporate a "breaking the spirit of the rules" test as well and that barrier should be very much lower. What is clearly wrong here is the vetting system for new MPs. There are no barriers to entry despite the rewards being so high. That means we are open to all manner of scum chancing their arm to get in. We even had Reynard trying it. Reynard FFS !!!! This is a serious problem which is running like a cancer throughout politics and it infects ALL parties. You are broadly correct though. I stood as a paper candidate for the council as I didn't actually want a councillor's job but I wanted to make Labour work a safe ward. I still had to go through a full vetting process and I (from memory) went through about 8 different panel interviews as I was grilled by various party officials etc I have no idea what process for selection the SNP have used for some of these utter goons theyve ended up with. I'd doubt very much that is was anywhere near as thorough. You're still going to get dodgy folk appearing regardless, as politics attracts them. I wasn't even a member of the party until I got selected. I was offered a safe seat and declined. I will probably go back to it once I've finished up seeing the kids through school etc. And I'll get a safe seat here no problem. That will have you in tatters hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'm not corrupt or a hypocrite like SNP politicians though.Yeah the snp should expel the corrupt Maria Miller and hypocritical proven liar Alistair Carmichael. Oh, hang on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Yeah the snp should expel the corrupt Maria Miller and hypocritical proven liar Alistair Carmichael. Oh, hang on... Maybe you can explain what any of that has to do with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Yeah the snp should expel the corrupt Maria Miller and hypocritical proven liar Alistair Carmichael. Oh, hang on... Maybe they should expel Anus MacNeil who has two properties owned jointly with his wife as well as his taxpayer funded flat 15 minutes walk from the Palace of Westminster, yet still managed to rack up tens of thousands of pounds worth of hotel expenses. Or are you still under the impression that SNP politicians are "different"? You poor sod. You're being taken for a complete mug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Yeah the snp should expel the corrupt Maria Miller and hypocritical proven liar Alistair Carmichael. Oh, hang on... Oh, hang on... The SNP are just as bad as the rest after all Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Oh, hang on... The SNP are just as bad as the rest after all Well done Must be quite a shock for those who rush to defend their political heroes at every opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 That would be all the unionists, then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Maybe you can explain what any of that has to do with me?I was simply pointing out that there are other parties with proven corrupt mps. The snp 3 haven't been found guilty of anything. They might be in the future, or they might be cleared of any wrongdoing. None of this fits with your snpbad agenda though does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I was simply pointing out that there are other parties with proven corrupt mps. The snp 3 haven't been found guilty of anything. They might be in the future, or they might be cleared of any wrongdoing. None of this fits with your snpbad agenda though does it I despise nationalism regardless. Its as low as politics can drop generally. But I've simpply pointed out where the SNP government has failed and where it has been hypocritical. When an outfit like the SNP point out how corrupt and bad other politicians are and then select much the same as MPs and MSPs they legitimately open themselves to these accusations. If they want to fling that sort of mud about then they should make sure they are squeaky clean, and they're not. All political parties have arseholes in their midst, I've never been under the impression it wasn't the case. But I don't place my faith in politicians to improve my life prospects. Many SNP sheepies do. Thats sad. For them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I despise nationalism regardless. Its as low as politics can drop generally. But I've simpply pointed out where the SNP government has failed and where it has been hypocritical. When an outfit like the SNP point out how corrupt and bad other politicians are and then select much the same as MPs and MSPs they legitimately open themselves to these accusations. If they want to fling that sort of mud about then they should make sure they are squeaky clean, and they're not. All political parties have arseholes in their midst, I've never been under the impression it wasn't the case. But I don't place my faith in politicians to improve my life prospects. Many SNP sheepies do. Thats sad. For them. So is that an ironic avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 You are broadly correct though. I stood as a paper candidate for the council as I didn't actually want a councillor's job but I wanted to make Labour work a safe ward. I still had to go through a full vetting process and I (from memory) went through about 8 different panel interviews as I was grilled by various party officials etc I have no idea what process for selection the SNP have used for some of these utter goons theyve ended up with. I'd doubt very much that is was anywhere near as thorough. You're still going to get dodgy folk appearing regardless, as politics attracts them. I wasn't even a member of the party until I got selected. I was offered a safe seat and declined. I will probably go back to it once I've finished up seeing the kids through school etc. And I'll get a safe seat here no problem. That will have you in tatters hopefully. Have me in tatters? No. Luckily I have the ability to fall back to your ludicrously mouthy guff about how nuclear fusion is going to save the planet . I may not have called you corrupt or a hypocrite but you are a delusional lunatic who should be nowhere near the levers of power at ANY level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Have me in tatters? No. Luckily I have the ability to fall back to your ludicrously mouthy guff about how nuclear fusion is going to save the planet . I may not have called you corrupt or a hypocrite but you are a delusional lunatic who should be nowhere near the levers of power at ANY level. So I can't count on your vote then? Hey ho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Well done to Tunnocks on their massive increase in sales over the past few days. Their British Teacakes are going down an absolute storm thanks to all the free publicity they've garnered for themselves and the rabbid Natsi seethe is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 So is that an ironic avatar? Lol. .you really couldn't make it up Buddie. It isnae even funny. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford prefect Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 It's enough to make you yearn for the days politicians were nice and normal. Killing themselves with an orange in their mouth or f**king Chelsea strip clad females. Those were halcyon days of decorum and integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford prefect Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I believe it was known as"back to basics" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I see Dennis Robertson MSP proved what a dick some SNP politicians can be even in Holyrood. His claim that the Scottish Oil Industry was booming yesterday has been absolutely slaughtered by bosses, workers and Trade Unions alike. Today he's tried to clarify his statement - saying he "could have expressed himself more better" and has now admitted that the industry faces clear and substantial challenges. Ironically he's the MSP for Aberdeen West, now, I assume living on borrowed time before his electorate boot him out of office at the Scottish Parliamentary Elections only for his party to reselect him through our stupid list system. Still he's not alone in his party with their inability to see economic matters clearly. Alex Salmond blamed Spivs and Speculators for pulling down a great institution like HBOS, at a point where Gordon Brown and Alastair Darling were holding meetings with the bank to try to find a way to stop it from closing completely such was the level of it's debts - and Salmond also offered Freddy Goodwin all of Scotlands support and assistance by any means possible in RBS's ill fated takeover of ABN Amro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 And yet another hypocritical Natsi MP is outed. Dear oh dear...... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/east-kilbride-mp-lisa-cameron-7127887 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Is there a story there? Seriously? More f**king strawclutching from the record. It's only bettered by flaccid strap-on's use of the term 'outed'. Edited January 6, 2016 by TPAFKATS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Is there a story there? Seriously? More f**king strawclutching from the record. It's only bettered by flaccid strap-on's use of the term 'outed'. Truly? You don't see the sheer hypocrisy? Honestly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Is there a story there? Seriously? More f**king strawclutching from the record. It's only bettered by flaccid strap-on's use of the term 'outed'. Yeah there is a story - another one of hypocrisy. See normally she'd be a poster girl for me. She's exactly the kind of social climber that Margaret Thatcher wanted to create in the 80's. Here's a girl from a working class family who has inherited her Grans house - purchased at maximum discount under the excellent Right To Buy scheme - and she's building her business empire off the back of it. Good on her. I don't have a problem at all with the fact that she's managed to buy other ex local authority houses cheaply, and I certainly have no issue with the fact that she's bought several repossessed houses cheaply either. I've certainly got no issue with the fact that she charges her tenants more than the local authority rates either. Why would I? She's clearly a girl of enterprise and that's a good thing. Where I take issue, and where others will too, is the fact that having been handed this glorious opportunity by a superb Conservative leader - the best Prime Minister the UK has ever had bar none - she has since gone on to remove that opportunity from any other individual who may wish to follow her path to greater things. That is her crime. There will be those Natsi's who see themselves as "socialist" or whatever who have voted for the SNP who will find the fact that she has profited off the back of a successful Conservative programme so greatly distasteful, and there will be others who find it distasteful that she's profited out of the misery of the poor who lost their homes. There will even be those who think the fact that she's charging high rental fees to live in those properties that she bought so cheaply to be absolutely terrible, but you won't catch me criticising her for any of that. Edited January 7, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 How many council houses did she buy? How many homes did she take from the social housing stock? I'll give you a clue, it's a round number. What are her rental charges? How do those compare to the high rental charges she opposes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Are you really trying to say that by not doing something that you oppose, you are being hypocritical? Not? Errr... She DID the very thing she spoke out against. Is that not the very definition of hypocrisy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Not? Errr... She DID the very thing she spoke out against. Is that not the very definition of hypocrisy? It absolutely is BinEK but you're asking the wrong people. It's quite incredible just how much some of these Nationalists will sell their soul for any shot at Independence. Indeed so much so that I don't think the likes of Coward knows how he's supposed to think until someone from the party gives him a lead on it. It's all rather sad, and rather pathetic. As I said in my previous post, the biggest crime she's committed is that she's denying others the opportunities of success that she had and what for? Some pathetic attempt to appeal to what she might regard as typical Labour voters by spouting some left wing socialist nonsense that she clearly cannot believe in given how she's making her money. She's a hypocrite and she's now been found out - as indeed many are going to be within the SNP over the coming months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I see Brent Crude has now hit it's lowest point since 2004 - yet just over a year ago the SNP would have gambled all our futures on a booming oil market and a soaring price for Brent Crude. Thank f**k for the heroic 55% that saved Scotland edit: for the record the SNP White Paper was based around an oil price of $110 per barrel. Even their own advisors and industry experts thought this was fanciful. The current price is below $35 per barrel. Dunno why anyone is surprised though. The Nationalists have never made a correct call when it comes to the economy. Edited January 7, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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