TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, faraway saint said: It's mixed feelings, overall, on last nights match. There's no doubt not losing for 8 games on the trot is something to be happy about but the opposition in these games certainly play a part in this. The Czech's are, IMO, the only team worth mentioning in the last 8 games. Over the years we've played better and lost so Clarke is showing why he's a good manager, getting the best from the players at his disposal. The manager has bravely stuck to a system that he and the players believe in and we are getting the rewards. It wasn't that long ago he was getting criticised for his approach so credit to him for sticking with it. As I mentioned last night, McGinn is getting stronger and more confident in each game, IMO he should be captain although that's unlikely with the return of Robertson. It's been a while since we've had something to look forward to like next months game, and while Serbia will be favourites, like @TPAFKA Jersey 2 has already mentioned, 5/1 is generous as we're confident and that makes a difference to the players when they step onto the park. The only "stat" that really matters is the scoreline but this is something to be aware of, we are unlikely to keep winning games with these stats............ Good post. Starting with the stats they are very misleading (other than of course the possession stat). 6 shots on goal but not one save of any note for Marshall. Balance that though with the acknowledgement that of the 12 other attempts, 2 of them were brilliant chances that they squandered, and perhaps another two that you’d put in the very good chance category and on another night, another team may have taken one or two of those chances. For the most part though, their possession didn’t hurt us. Also factor in we too had a couple of great chances. Fraser had at least one in the first half, McBurnie hit the woodwork and there were a few other great openings when the very final ball let us down. Agree with the rest of your post completely. I’ve already stuck a score on us. Only got 9/2 though because I use Willie Hills. I did a quick cost/benefit analysis in head about how long it would take me to download another app, register and deposit cash and concluded that my time was more valuable that the extra tenner I’d get for the additional half a point. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 hours ago, faraway saint said: There's no doubt not losing for 8 games on the trot is something to be happy about but the opposition in these games certainly play a part in this. The Czech's are, IMO, the only team worth mentioning in the last 8 games. And there's the "aye but" I was looking for from you. What a joyless, miserable bugger you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, oaksoft said: And there's the "aye but" I was looking for from you. What a joyless, miserable bugger you are. Sorry, should I have posted a pointless "we won" post like your contribution? 😂 You're trying, and failing again, to make my post something it isn't. As I said, best you stay out of football threads, you, after all, don't take your football too seriously, which is apparent from your simple posts. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 hours ago, faraway saint said: It's mixed feelings, overall, on last nights match. There's no doubt not losing for 8 games on the trot is something to be happy about but the opposition in these games certainly play a part in this. The Czech's are, IMO, the only team worth mentioning in the last 8 games. Over the years we've played better and lost so Clarke is showing why he's a good manager, getting the best from the players at his disposal. The manager has bravely stuck to a system that he and the players believe in and we are getting the rewards. It wasn't that long ago he was getting criticised for his approach so credit to him for sticking with it. As I mentioned last night, McGinn is getting stronger and more confident in each game, IMO he should be captain although that's unlikely with the return of Robertson. It's been a while since we've had something to look forward to like next months game, and while Serbia will be favourites, like @TPAFKA Jersey 2 has already mentioned, 5/1 is generous as we're confident and that makes a difference to the players when they step onto the park. The only "stat" that really matters is the scoreline but this is something to be aware of, we are unlikely to keep winning games with these stats............ On reflection I think you’re maybe being slightly harsh on that point. You have to talk about the opposition in terms of where we currently sit as a team. On that basis I’d put Slovakia and probably Israel too in the teams of note category. Completely agree though on Czech C Team, Kazakhstan, Cyprus and San Marino and out of those only San Marino (and at a push Kazakhstan) did we beat comfortably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 https://twitter.com/jmcginn7/status/1316659827691659264?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: On reflection I think you’re maybe being slightly harsh on that point. You have to talk about the opposition in terms of where we currently sit as a team. On that basis I’d put Slovakia and probably Israel too in the teams of note category. Completely agree though on Czech C Team, Kazakhstan, Cyprus and San Marino and out of those only San Marino (and at a push Kazakhstan) did we beat comfortably. I'm well aware where we are in the world rankings, currently 49th, and as such we are amongst other teams that are similarly average. Slovakia have won ONE game in over a year. dropping like a stone. The diddy that is Oaksoft cited they had qualified for 2 tournaments since we last qualified. That's as pointless as saying we qualified for 5 world cups on the trot or England won the world cup, historic form means little. Israel are almost as bad, played 10, winning just TWO in just over a year. So, between them they have won 3 games from 21. Hey, we are where we are but these teams are not, IMO, in the same league as the Czech's, who have won 5 from 11 over the same period. I'm using the last year as a decent pointer towards form, not going back to 2016 or 2010. PS The Czech reserves battered us for the last 20 minutes, put us under more pressure than any of the other teams named above. Edited October 15, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: I'm well aware where we are in the world rankings, currently 49th, and as such we are amongst other teams that are similarly average. Slovakia have won ONE game in over a year. dropping like a stone. The diddy that is Oaksoft cited they had qualified for 2 tournaments since we last qualified. That's as pointless as saying we qualified for 5 world cups on the trot or England won the world cup, historic form means little. Israel are almost as bad, played 10, winning just TWO in just over a year. So, between them they have won 3 games from 21. Hey, we are where we are but these teams are not, IMO, in the same league as the Czech's, who have won 5 from 11 over the same period. I'm using the last year as a decent pointer towards form, not going back to 2016 or 2010. PS The Czech reserves battered us for the last 20 minutes, put us under more pressure than any of the other teams named above. Aye, including their first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Aye, including their first team Not really..................funny thing the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: I'm well aware where we are in the world rankings, currently 49th, and as such we are amongst other teams that are similarly average. Slovakia have won ONE game in over a year. dropping like a stone. The diddy that is Oaksoft cited they had qualified for 2 tournaments since we last qualified. That's as pointless as saying we qualified for 5 world cups on the trot or England won the world cup, historic form means little. Israel are almost as bad, played 10, winning just TWO in just over a year. So, between them they have won 3 games from 21. Hey, we are where we are but these teams are not, IMO, in the same league as the Czech's, who have won 5 from 11 over the same period. I'm using the last year as a decent pointer towards form, not going back to 2016 or 2010. PS The Czech reserves battered us for the last 20 minutes, put us under more pressure than any of the other teams named above. Also depends on how you define “teams of note”. I take that to mean teams of our standing or higher. if by that you mean teams you wouldn’t ordinarily give yourself a chance of beating, then I wouldn’t even put the Czechs in that category. Out of curiosity, genuine question because I haven’t, have you evaluated the 5 Czech wins in the same way you have ours ie who did they beat? Edited October 15, 2020 by TPAFKA Jersey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Also depends on how you define “teams of note”. I take that to mean teams of our standing or higher. if by that you mean teams you would ordinarily give yourself a chance of beating, then I wouldn’t even put the Czechs in that category. Out of curiosity, genuine question because I haven’t, have you evaluated the 5 Czech wins in the same way you have ours ie who did they beat? England 2-1 Kosovo 1-0 Slovakia 3-1 Cyprus 2-1 Israel 2-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Not really..................funny thing the mind. I can’t see the “pressure” stat there. I also can’t see the stat that quantifies how much bother we were in for all their possession and attempts at goal. Absolutely zero of which troubled our keeper. I’m not denying they had a few good chances, but so did we and I genuinely felt like we weren’t going to concede. Edited October 15, 2020 by TPAFKA Jersey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, faraway saint said: England 2-1 Kosovo 1-0 Slovakia 3-1 Cyprus 2-1 Israel 2-1 Ha ha. So on that basis they’ve only beaten one team of any note too. 😘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I can’t see the “pressure” stat there. I also can’t see the stat that quantifies how much bother we were in for all their possession and attempts at goal. Absolutely zero of which troubled our keeper. mom not denying they had a few good chances, but so did we and I genuinely felt like we weren’t going to concede. The last 20 minutes we were sitting so deep we were almost in the stand behind the goals. Don't you remember? Up until that point we were the better team, their reserves didn't even know each others names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Ha ha. So on that basis they’ve only beaten one team of any note too. 😘 We haven't beaten Israel in 2 attempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said: We haven't beaten Israel in 2 attempts. Aye but if we had it wouldnae have mattered because they’re not a team of any note 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Aye but if we had it wouldnae have mattered because they’re not a team of any note 😉 We beat them pesky Czech's, that's what matters here...........................all the other games were just a warm up. Surely we can't lose this group now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, faraway saint said: We beat them pesky Czech's, that's what matters here...........................all the other games were just a warm up. Surely we can't lose this group now? I might be getting carried away, but I don’t think it’s beyond us to win all 3 games next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, Yflab said: I’m pleased that book I lent you has had the desired effect. At least as far as Scotland. Ach I’ll be back to my rosy cheeked optimist self Balfy when we gub Motherwell 6-0 at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted October 15, 2020 Report Share Posted October 15, 2020 What games does Dykes miss for his suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 17 hours ago, faraway saint said: Sorry, should I have posted a pointless "we won" post like your contribution? 😂 You're trying, and failing again, to make my post something it isn't. As I said, best you stay out of football threads, you, after all, don't take your football too seriously, which is apparent from your simple posts. 😉 I think Oaksoft is obsessed with u in someway, seems to follow you about forum..seems to be some kind of stalker or have a crush on u... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Griffiths will be the matchwinner v Serbia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Live on Pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, shull said: Live on Pick. Is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Is it? Are you trying to say he's talking [emoji90] or [emoji1781]When Biden gets the nod later I expect another shull [emoji291]I've heard that the sinbin is getting prepared for him as we speak. [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Are you trying to say he's talking or When Biden gets the nod later I expect another shull I've heard that the sinbin is getting prepared for him as we speak. I'm trying say that I can't find it on Pick, it's on Sky Sports Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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