ALBIONSAINT Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 I was listening to off the ball yesterday afternoon and they had a call in about who your teams best and worst BAME player is or was. For me the best would be Esmael Goncalves. The worst would be Mo Camara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 What does BAME mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, shull said: What does BAME mean ? Black, Asian, Minority Ethnic ( used in the UK to refer to people who are not white) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Black, Asian, Minority Ethnic ( used in the UK to refer to people who are not white) Why are whites not included. We are all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Getting ridiculous all this 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, mattman said: Getting ridiculous all this 😂 Aye, shouldn't be an issue IMO. Best or worst player maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, shull said: Why are whites not included. We are all the same. If you want to start a topic on who you think the best and worst white stmirren players are then feel free, this one is about BAME players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just best and worst players would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: I was listening to off the ball yesterday afternoon and they had a call in about who your teams best and worst BAME player is or was. For me the best would be Esmael Goncalves. The worst would be Mo Camara Can't argue with you there but Junior Mendes deserves a mention as does big Ferdinand even though it was late in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Best Bam player - Abercromby Worst Bam player - Charnley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Black, Asian, Minority Ethnic ( used in the UK to refer to people who are not white) I just find it crazy there’s a term for non whites 😂😂. People are people regardless of colour. it’s honestly the first time I’ve seen or heard this BAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Kinnaird was a bam, not the best or worst though. Albion Saint is a good bam. Quite a few boring bams on the Forum. Bazzzzzzzy, Rick and Dud the Doughboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, mattman said: I just find it crazy there’s a term for non whites 😂😂. People are people regardless of colour. it’s honestly the first time I’ve seen or heard this BAME. It’s been a well used and general term for some time now (it’s even quoted on most BBC COVID stories) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, mattman said: I just find it crazy there’s a term for non whites 😂😂. People are people regardless of colour. it’s honestly the first time I’ve seen or heard this BAME. You need to get out more........................but not for a wee while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, shull said: Why are whites not included. We are all the same. I am astounded here. I agree totally. Why single out one group from the others? Surely a player is just a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: It’s been a well used and general term for some time now (it’s even quoted on most BBC COVID stories) The "N" word or the "P" word was well used. It didn't make it right, even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, stlucifer said: I am astounded here. I agree totally. Why single out one group from the others? Surely a player is just a player. Well it didn’t stop Stewart Cosgrove and Tam Cowan from naming there best and worst black players from stjohnstone and Motherwell yesterday. To give some context to the show, they had John Barnes on discussing his perception that black football managers get let time to turn around bad runs of form than non-black managers. They still ripped the pish out him about Celtic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 hour ago, ALBIONSAINT said: I was listening to off the ball yesterday afternoon and they had a call in about who your teams best and worst BAME player is or was. For me the best would be Esmael Goncalves. The worst would be Mo Camara Was Mo Camara worse than Cole Kpekwa? I remember Mo Camara kicking a ball straight once so in my opinion h wasnt as piss f**king poor as Cole Kpekwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, stlucifer said: The "N" word or the "P" word was well used. It didn't make it right, even then. Not sure I am following you, BAME isn’t a derogatory racist term. It’s used in most government documents and NHS reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 BAME All about being victims in the big wide world of human beings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Well it didn’t stop Stewart Cosgrove and Tam Cowan from naming there best and worst black players from stjohnstone and Motherwell yesterday. To give some context to the show, they had John Barnes on discussing his perception that black football managers get let time to turn around bad runs of form than non-black managers. They still ripped the pish out him about Celtic though. Barnes equals victim. Ha ha ha Paul Elliot, another kid on victim. Played with the right Club. Celtic the biggest victims in the world. Sevco not far behind them. Not fecking fair for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted June 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 minute ago, TediousTom said: Was Mo Camara worse than Cole Kpekwa? I remember Mo Camara kicking a ball straight once so in my opinion h wasnt as piss f**king poor as Cole Kpekwa kpekma was up there with in the running with Bahoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Not sure I am following you, BAME isn’t a derogatory racist term. It’s used in most government documents and NHS reports. If you're not a lefty or BAME you're classified as white supremacist scum. Even if you are black and right wing they classify you as white supremacist scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, shull said: BAME All about being victims in the big wide world of human beings. I don't think so. We are not the only country to describe people though their ethnicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Not sure I am following you, BAME isn’t a derogatory racist term. It’s used in most government documents and NHS reports. Not always. Black people called each other the N word and we used the P word when referring to the corner shop. Even though most of those shops were owned by Indians. ETA. In the case we're discussing it cannot be anything other than separating one group from another for judgement. I would classify that as, at the very least, soft racism if such a thing can exist. Edited June 14, 2020 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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