faraway saint Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 3 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Old firm hasn't existed for almost a decade. That aside, Celtic & Rangers get this kind of focus because the bias is systemic up here. They play 34 league games a season each against other Scottish clubs and are favoured in almost all of them. It isn’t just a case of looking at it from our clubs perspective. There is blatant cheating in our game that happens dozens of times a season. Surely even you can see why so many have issue with it and why it gets so much attention? Aye, all subjective and over egged. Look at the penalties we were awarded when we won the championship, 10 from 36 games. 2 seasons ago, 9 pens in 36 games, Rangers, in the same season 7 penalties. Aye, keep it up, you'll be in Australia soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 36 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Aye, all subjective and over egged. Look at the penalties we were awarded when we won the championship, 10 from 36 games. 2 seasons ago, 9 pens in 36 games, Rangers, in the same season 7 penalties. Aye, keep it up, you'll be in Australia soon. It is beyond all reasonable doubt that the bigot brothers get favoured above other clubs by officials in this country over the course of any given season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bazil85 said: It is beyond all reasonable doubt that the bigot brothers get favoured above other clubs by officials in this country over the course of any given season. Away and howl at the moon, I prefer facts. PS What part are you struggling with that ANY team who are likely to be attacking other teams for the majority of the game will get more decisions in their favor as they will have more possession, especially in the oppositions half? Edited April 19 by faraway saint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, bazil85 said: Old firm hasn't existed for almost a decade. That aside, Celtic & Rangers get this kind of focus because the bias is systemic up here. They play 34 league games a season each against other Scottish clubs and are favoured in almost all of them. It isn’t just a case of looking at it from our clubs perspective. There is blatant cheating in our game that happens dozens of times a season. Surely even you can see why so many have issue with it and why it gets so much attention? In other countries they might call this corruption as money might change hands. Here, the suggestion is that brotherhood is to blame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, faraway saint said: Away and howl at the moon, I prefer facts. PS What part are you struggling with that ANY team who are likely to be attacking other teams for the majority of the game will get more decisions in their favor as they will have more possession, especially in the oppositions half? No part of it at all. That point aside, Celtic & Rangers are generally massively favoured in this country by officials. Man C & Liverpool are in that position in England & don’t favour to the levels the bigot brothers do up here from bias officiating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, Rascal said: In other countries they might call this corruption as money might change hands. Here, the suggestion is that brotherhood is to blame. I feel it’s a blend of conscious & unconscious bias towards the two biggest clubs. It’s certainly an easier life in front of 50/60k home fans to favour the bigots in decisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, bazil85 said: No part of it at all. That point aside, Celtic & Rangers are generally massively favoured in this country by officials. Man C & Liverpool are in that position in England & don’t favour to the levels the bigot brothers do up here from bias officiating. Ok, so, no matter how much evidence is presented you still stick to your conspiracy theory? No problem, I think I get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Ok, so, no matter how much evidence is presented you still stick to your conspiracy theory? No problem, I think I get it. You haven’t presented a shred of evidence that they aren’t generally favoured in Scotland. You wouldn’t be able to because it’s observable over many, many, many matches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 Ok, so, no matter how much evidence is presented you still stick to your conspiracy theory? No problem, I think I get it. I can only go on the word of a former top level referee who admitted he doubted himself at times when so many were claiming for something. Though he did caution every Hearts player in a wall when they encroached 10 yards before a free kick was taken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 8 minutes ago, bazil85 said: You haven’t presented a shred of evidence that they aren’t generally favoured in Scotland. You wouldn’t be able to because it’s observable over many, many, many matches. Firstly I presented evidence that VAR is NOT a major influence on games, not according to you. I presented evidence that St Mirren had more game winning awards than Rangers, you ignored that. All you present is subjective, and coming from s simpleton like you, really doesn't cut the mustard. 😆 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, bazil85 said: I feel it’s a blend of conscious & unconscious bias towards the two biggest clubs. It’s certainly an easier life in front of 50/60k home fans to favour the bigots in decisions. And those in the lodge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, faraway saint said: Firstly I presented evidence that VAR is NOT a major influence on games, not according to you. I presented evidence that St Mirren had more game winning awards than Rangers, you ignored that. All you present is subjective, and coming from s simpleton like you, really doesn't cut the mustard. 😆 Incorrect, I showed that the stats you were using were misleading. That does not remotely suggest there isn’t favour throughout many games for the bigot brothers. It seems largely incidental. You’re getting upset & again trolling. Sorry my presence angers you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 51 minutes ago, Rascal said: And those in the lodge. 👏👏👏 Although I think it’s one of the biggest myths in Scottish football that Celtic don’t benefit generally on par with Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 10 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Incorrect, I showed that the stats you were using were misleading. That does not remotely suggest there isn’t favour throughout many games for the bigot brothers. It seems largely incidental. You’re getting upset & again trolling. Sorry my presence angers you. ^^^^ Copy/paste time again. 😆 Empty vessel. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 22 minutes ago, faraway saint said: ^^^^ Copy/paste time again. 😆 Empty vessel. 🤡 That makes absolutely no sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, bazil85 said: 👏👏👏 Although I think it’s one of the biggest myths in Scottish football that Celtic don’t benefit generally on par with Rangers. There are The Knights of St Columba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsBud Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 I can't believe clubs are okay with the cost of VAR. £67k for the bottom club meaning everyone else is paying more. How is that worth it? For us thats an extra high-end earning player a year. Considering theres been all this fuss of giving the old firm 2 stands to make an extra £100k(ish) because that money is so important but they are happy to throw away more than £67k (£100k for mid table) without much complaints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 53 minutes ago, LargsBud said: I can't believe clubs are okay with the cost of VAR. £67k for the bottom club meaning everyone else is paying more. How is that worth it? For us thats an extra high-end earning player a year. Considering theres been all this fuss of giving the old firm 2 stands to make an extra £100k(ish) because that money is so important but they are happy to throw away more than £67k (£100k for mid table) without much complaints. I think the days of two stands to the Big Two are over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 SMISA members voted over 2 to 1 in favour of VAR being introduced.The board is listening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Being reported that Scottish clubs have voted in favour of VAR. 41 clubs said yes, one club said no. Morton voted against.NSFWhttps://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 12 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Morton voted against. NSFW https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/ Good for Morton, voting to protect one of the elements that makes football the best sport in the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Morton voted against.NSFWhttps://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/They missed the "Harder to fix matches to win at the bookies" reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 11 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Good for Morton, voting to protect one of the elements that makes football the best sport in the world. 😆😆😆 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 18 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Good for Morton, voting to protect one of the elements that makes football the best sport in the world. Well within their rights to vote against but like it or not, this has been coming for a while. We went from 1 referee and 2 linesmen to 1 Referee and 2 Assistant Referees to 1 Referee and 2 Assistant Referees plus a 4th official before then review of decisions using TV and now onto VAR. Used well , it can add to the tension and atmosphere at games. Especially if the ground has replay facilities the fans can watch live. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Morton voted against. NSFW https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/ Listening to supporters it will never catch on. The people who watch on the television have spoken. The fact it makes the experience less exciting for people who attend matches is neither here nor there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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