beyond our ken Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 If the UK bid is successful, how will Hampden look in 5 years without an upgrade? It looked pretty dismal compared to the other stadia at the last Euros. Ian Maxwell promises "improvements" without specifying anything but it will take a lot to get the old shitheap knocked into shape. a new, basic, stadium with 50k capacity would likely cost more than 80 million but maybe a decent outcome could be achieved if we could rustle up £200,000,000 or so with another £50,000,000 on improving transport and the environs. Much as I'd love to see the tournament here, it would be hard to swallow another cheap and nasty fix being purported as a world-class stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: If the UK bid is successful, how will Hampden look in 5 years without an upgrade? It looked pretty dismal compared to the other stadia at the last Euros. Ian Maxwell promises "improvements" without specifying anything but it will take a lot to get the old shitheap knocked into shape. a new, basic, stadium with 50k capacity would likely cost more than 80 million but maybe a decent outcome could be achieved if we could rustle up £200,000,000 or so with another £50,000,000 on improving transport and the environs. Much as I'd love to see the tournament here, it would be hard to swallow another cheap and nasty fix being purported as a world-class stadium Not so sure it did look "dismal". Also, a "shiteheap"? It's a traditional stadium, not so easy to upgrade to a modern stadium that has been purpose built. Having been there quite a few times over the last 20-30 years I don't find it anywhere near the impression you have. I'd imagine the Scottish football authorities, along with the Scottish government, would be hard pushed to find the numbers you seem to have come up with, especially when you look at massive building contracts which mostly seem to turn ion to costly debacles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 Knock the two ends down and square them off and it’s sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, HSS said: Knock the two ends down and square them off and it’s sorted Perhaps they could start during the forthcoming cup semi between the two arse cheeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) On 4/7/2023 at 6:51 AM, Albanian Buddy said: https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2021/09/10/sfa-chief-considers-stuttgart-style-revamp-for-hampden-park/ This is the redevelopment that the SFA have looked at previously. Edited April 12, 2023 by Albanian Buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Albanian Buddy said: This is the redevelopment that the SFA have looked at previously. As @HSS mentioned, probably the major issue, being quite far away from the pitch. That piece was 18 months ago, nothing has changed since then, as far as I'm aware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, faraway saint said: As @HSS mentioned, probably the major issue, being quite far away from the pitch. That piece was 18 months ago, nothing has changed since then, as far as I'm aware? Correct. The SFA are skint. The only redevelopment will be on the back of a successful bid. Even then there would be doubts they will do anything major. I thought a good time would have been immediately after the commonwealth games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 I much preferred Hampden before it was all seated. Having said that, I'm too old to stand at a game now. [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Slarti said: I much preferred Hampden before it was all seated. Having said that, I'm too old to stand at a game now. Getting into games when the crowds were three times the current capacity was arguably easier back then. 😂 Or was it because the pubs shut early to ensure that punters went to the stadium with time to spare? Sure. That would work with 3pm kick offs. “149,547 Scotland-England, 1937 This is still a European record for an international match. The 1937 Scottish Cup Final between Celtic and Aberdeen drew an official crowd of 147,365, a world record for a club match at the time with 20,000 more people locked outside. Hampden set world attendance records that year which have only been surpassed by the Maracanã, but it still holds all the major European records.” But there were games like this that were midweek evening kickoffs: “The attendance of 136,505 for the 1969–70 European Cup semi-final second leg between Celtic and Leeds United played at Hampden Park is the highest ever for a UEFA competition match.“ I do find it incredible to imagine 150,000 were once in that ground. I experienced one of the last Get these QR pdf match tickets in the bin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1904: Scottish Cup Final 64,472 First final at third Hampden Park. 1906: Scotland V England 102,741 First six-figure attendance for any game in Scotland. 1908: Scotland V England 121,452 World-record attendance at that time. 1912: Scotland V England 127,307 World-record attendance at that time. 1925: Celtic V Rangers (Scottish Cup Semi-Final) 101,714 First six-figure crowd for a domestic club game in Scotland. 1928: Celtic V Rangers (Scottish Cup Final) 118,115 Record crowd for a domestic match in Scotland at that time. 1930: Queen’s Park V Rangers 95,722 World-record crowd for a match involving an amateur team. 1931: Scotland V England 129,810 World-record attendance at that time. 1933: Scotland V England 136,259 World-record attendance at that time. 1937: Celtic V Aberdeen (Scottish Cup Final) 147,365 World-record attendance for a national cup final. Still the largest attendance for a domestic match in Europe. 1937: Scotland V England 147,415 All time record for a European international match. 1944: Scotland V England 133,000 Record wartime attendance in the UK. 1946: Scotland V England 139,468 Record attendance for an unofficial international. 1948: Rangers V Hibs (Scottish Cup Semi-Final) 143,750 Record attendance for a non-final match. 1948: Rangers V Morton (Scottish Cup Final & Replay) 129,176 & 133,570 Largest combined attendance for a final plus replay. 1951: Petershill V Irvine Meadow (Scottish Junior Cup) 77,650 British record attendance for a match between two junior sides. 1954: Scotland V Hungary 113,056 Largest crowd ever for a match involving Hungary. 1960: Real Madrid V Eintracht Frankfurt 127,621 Record attendance for a European Cup Final (Champions League) 1963: Rangers V Morton (League Cup Final) 105,907 First six-figure crowd for a League Cup Final. 1965: Celtic V Rangers (League Cup Final) 107,609 All time record attendance for a British League Cup Final. 1970: Celtic V Leeds United (European Cup Semi-Final) 136,505 All time record attendance for a European Cup match. 1973: Rangers V Celtic (Scottish Cup) 122,714 Last 100,000+ crowd for any football match in the United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 wish I’d been at that game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted April 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 12 hours ago, HSS said: Knock the two ends down and square them off and it’s sorted I'd agree, mostly The North stand is still made of banked earth and concrete slabs and the entrance/exit for the lower sections needs improving. It could also do with elevators to make the upper level more accessible The south stand has all the basic requirements, other than it is tired and worn in places and the spectator facilities are very old fashioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted April 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Albanian Buddy said: 1904: Scottish Cup Final 64,472 First final at third Hampden Park. 1906: Scotland V England 102,741 First six-figure attendance for any game in Scotland. 1908: Scotland V England 121,452 World-record attendance at that time. 1912: Scotland V England 127,307 World-record attendance at that time. 1925: Celtic V Rangers (Scottish Cup Semi-Final) 101,714 First six-figure crowd for a domestic club game in Scotland. 1928: Celtic V Rangers (Scottish Cup Final) 118,115 Record crowd for a domestic match in Scotland at that time. 1930: Queen’s Park V Rangers 95,722 World-record crowd for a match involving an amateur team. 1931: Scotland V England 129,810 World-record attendance at that time. 1933: Scotland V England 136,259 World-record attendance at that time. 1937: Celtic V Aberdeen (Scottish Cup Final) 147,365 World-record attendance for a national cup final. Still the largest attendance for a domestic match in Europe. 1937: Scotland V England 147,415 All time record for a European international match. 1944: Scotland V England 133,000 Record wartime attendance in the UK. 1946: Scotland V England 139,468 Record attendance for an unofficial international. 1948: Rangers V Hibs (Scottish Cup Semi-Final) 143,750 Record attendance for a non-final match. 1948: Rangers V Morton (Scottish Cup Final & Replay) 129,176 & 133,570 Largest combined attendance for a final plus replay. 1951: Petershill V Irvine Meadow (Scottish Junior Cup) 77,650 British record attendance for a match between two junior sides. 1954: Scotland V Hungary 113,056 Largest crowd ever for a match involving Hungary. 1960: Real Madrid V Eintracht Frankfurt 127,621 Record attendance for a European Cup Final (Champions League) 1963: Rangers V Morton (League Cup Final) 105,907 First six-figure crowd for a League Cup Final. 1965: Celtic V Rangers (League Cup Final) 107,609 All time record attendance for a British League Cup Final. 1970: Celtic V Leeds United (European Cup Semi-Final) 136,505 All time record attendance for a European Cup match. 1973: Rangers V Celtic (Scottish Cup) 122,714 Last 100,000+ crowd for any football match in the United Kingdom. Scotland v czeckoslovakia in september 73 had an official attendance of 95,000, despite all 100,000 tickets being sold. Inside the ground, it was clear that the capacity had been greatly exceeded and there were well over 100,000 inside that night. Edited April 13, 2023 by beyond our ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, beyond our ken said: Scotland v czeckoslovakia in september 73 had an official attendance of 95,000, despite all 100,000 tickets being sold. Inside the ground, it was clear that the capacity had been greatly exceeded and there were well over 100,000 inside that night. There were always more at the game than the official attendance The Hampden turnstile operaters must have been worth a fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmac Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 I was there and had a ticket! Nearly choked to death on the dust raised in the West terracing when we scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 98,260 saw Saints beat Celtic 2-0 in 1926. Then 108000+ in 1959 final, when I don’t recall it feeling all that packed. Seemed busier at the semi… until Saints lifted the score to 3-0, then it swiftly thinned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) In those days Brechin v Montrose would have pulled over 50k.... there was feck all else to do bar wear a cap and drink flat beer Edited April 13, 2023 by DougJamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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