Losing My Religion

There you go, swift decisive action from the board. Can't argue with it. Imperative now that we take our time and get the next appointment spot on.

Patronising shite. 
It's a St Mirren Forum. 
We are all fans. 

Just out of interest, how can a black piece of material with some red material ever be considered to be "horrendous"?  

Hook. Line. Sinker.

That conviction was quashed. So, presently he's innocent and unless a future jury again comes to a decision that he is guilty, he will remain so.
Of course I'm sure Slartibartfast will want to come on here and tell me that because of how I've worded my last paragraph poorly, I've erred in law and he should really be locked up and have the key thrown away. Or some other pish like that.

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I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

Sincere apologies, neither the time or place

My old man went out to buy a newspaper one morning and dropped down dead in the street. When I got told at work that day by the HR manager I said to him "Oh, right. Is it okay if I go home then?". Later on I was talking to one of my cousins and having a right good laugh with her. My dad taught me the pipes and at his funeral I played as he was lowered into his grave. I smiled and chatted to people at the gathering afterwards, having another good laugh with family in the pub later.

Once it was all over and everyone went their separate ways then I broke down in floods of tears, and had sporadic moments thereafter for quite some time.

However the husband of Jo Cox wants to deal with this issue is entirely up to him and any criticism is, as far as I'm concerned, somewhat unfounded. To then get into petty mudslinging and end up trading personal insults goes beyond the pale.
Disappointed in you, faraway saint; you're a better man than that.

Always eggs for breakfast for me. Either fried, boiled and mashed, poached or an omelette with some tomatoes, spring onion and maybe salami or ham. Usually with two slices of wholemeal toast or, if i'm feeling fancy, a couple of toasted potato scones. I try to limit my sugar intake to the equivalent of a couple of tea spoons per day. It really is terrible for your health and waistline! That's the issue with the flavoured porridge, full of sugar and artificial guff!

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

Yip, I saw these interviews too and it moved me close to tears also.
I'm not one for media and public fawning of recently deceased individuals, to be honest usually it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth and smells oddly of emotional bandwagoning. However on this occasion, it seem genuine and highly appropriate.

Yup, spot on...........train wreck through his life in an instant !!
This poor guy's loss is only just starting.
As with anyone you lose, you never get over it, but you somehow ' manage' it.
What makes this even more harrowing is the voilent and utterly unpredictable nature of her death. That will take some ' managing'.

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

Yip, I saw these interviews too and it moved me close to tears also.
I'm not one for media and public fawning of recently deceased individuals, to be honest usually it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth and smells oddly of emotional bandwagoning. However on this occasion, it seem genuine and highly appropriate.

Yip, I saw these interviews too and it moved me close to tears also.
I'm not one for media and public fawning of recently deceased individuals, to be honest usually it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth and smells oddly of emotional bandwagoning. However on this occasion, it seem genuine and highly appropriate.

Just watched Neil Kinnock being interviewed on BBC News there, his son was close friends with Jo Cox, she was known to the Kinnocks for 20 years and considered "part of the family". Clearing struggling with his emotions, he could be seen wiping tears away from his eyes, sad day. A similarly emotionally charged Stephen Kinnock has just appeared by Skype interview too.

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

Just a pity this thread like so many others has been hijacked by the usual bellend who thinks everything on here revolves around him.
As for the complaint about the husband's initial reaction to the death of his wife, I found the tribute both moving and appropriate. The fact is nobody knows how they will react to and process news like that,especially a sudden unexpected death. And trust me I've been there !
The chances are high that this sickening event and it's repercussions will likely hit Mr Cox like the proverbial ton of bricks in the coming days and months, and that it's not unusual to act in what some might describe as a "blasé" manner in the initial aftermath of an event that simply overwhelms the emotions and reasoning.

Yes "those of us".
You know full well what I am talking about because I have posted about my own experience of having something happen in my own family.
TBH bud I have no idea what is wrong with you since you returned to the forum.
I preferred you the last time you were on here. At least you seemed a decent person.
Maybe buddieinek is right. Maybe its time you took another break from posting.
Strong opinions I can deal with but the sort of posts you are making are much worse than posters like Tony who you spent enough time on here bashing over the years.
Think on.

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.

I can't believe a husband and father has just had his wife and mother of his children murdered and his (incredibly loving and gracious) response is being criticised by people on here. The arrogance of some posters on this thread, believing that their method of dealing with grief is the correct one and anyone who acts differently is wrong, is beyond belief. For fuck sake! The man has just lost the most important person in his life, in a horribly brutal manner, and all some people can do is have a go at him - get a grip of yourselves!
That poor fellow has to put his kids to bed tonight facing their questions of "where's mummy" and wondering what the hell he's going to tell them and how he's going to get through tomorrow. I think he's faced with the enormity and reality of the situation enough. Do you honestly think him releasing a statement detracts from how much he is facing up to what just happened to his wife?
I don't think his desire to issue a public statement says anything other than he felt it was right to do it. Unless you are in his situation how can you possibly judge whether that is correct or not?! Maybe he had continual requests for a statement. Maybe he is an extroverted type chap who shows his emotions easily and it made sense to him to do that. Maybe the thoughts in his head were so scrambled he wrote something down to help him process what just happened and decided he'd release it for one of a million reasons that no-one has any right to pass judgement on.
All that should be said is that our thoughts (and prayers if you're so inclined) are with Jo's family and friends and I hope the vile prick who did this is swiftly brought to justice.