Gary Mckinnon

[Isle Of Bute Saint]

Gary was in the news for many years as the Americans wanted him extradited for tapping into the Pentagon and NASA computers here are some extracts from Gary’s Interview which can be seen on you tube.

For some people it will be too much to take in simply because it’s way beyond our way of thinking. There was a program on Discovery recently which set up many cameras around the area 51 secret American base the cameras caught a fast flying object flying around the base. The Film from all the cameras was taken to a studio for study by experts. It was worked out the object was flying at 36,000mph. Also in recent times an Air Japan jumbo is caught talking to air traffic controllers about a UFO flying very near them the size of an aircraft carrier this object was caught on air traffic control radar while the American air force was dispatched . In a separate incident a Lufthansa airliner radioed to air traffic controller about a UFO buzzing around them. The a British Airways flight in the area reported seeing it at the same time as the Lufthansa flight. Beijing Airport in China one of the world’s busiest airports was shut down because of a UFO. With such high profile incidents something must be going on. Anyway here are extracts from the Interview with Gary.

Kerry Cassidy: I'm here with Gary McKinnon, and we're here to talk about his possible extradition to the United States for some hacking that he's done, and some investigation he's also done on the part of UFOs and disclosure.

So as if by magic, lo and behold, every machine I was on I'm accused of causing exactly $5,000 worth of damage. It's patently untrue. And in my opinion, and the opinion of others more well-informed than me, the pressure they're bringing to bear is more to do with where I've been and what I may have seen.

KC: Wow. OK. So, maybe you can explain exactly what you're in for - or "up" for, I guess might be a better word.

Apparently it's seven counts of intentional malicious damage and unauthorized access, each count carrying 10 years maximum. Each.

KC: So let's back up one minute here. Exactly what were you looking for when you were doing this

GM: At first I was looking for anything to do with UFOs. As I got more into the subject and listened to more serious talk and discussion about the subject, and was introduced to the Disclosure Project, and realized that there were, you know, 400 witness testimonials from people who worked in everything from civilian air traffic control, up to military radar operators, right up to men and women in charge of whether or not to launch nuclear missiles. I thought these were surely credible people.

And the whole suppressed technology thing, which kind of grabbed my humanitarian side. I thought: Crikey, we're having wars over oil, and we're burning fossil fuels, polluting the environment, and we have old age pensioners dying in Britain because they can't afford to heat themselves because fuel bills are so high.

And so I thought: Why on Earth is this technology being sat on? I can see perhaps some of the arguments that may be for it. For example, you know, what if terrorists had free energy, or terrorists had antigravity? Well, you know, what if terrorists had guns? Everything's dual-use. You have to protect it, make it tamper-proof, anything, but just get it out to the public. Surely everyone should have it.

KC: Was the passion for information related to UFOs and hidden technology? Was that your passion? Or what would you say is your passion in that regard?

GM: I passionately believe that we should all have this technology. And not so much, obviously, if you could confirm the existence of extraterrestrials and their contact with us, then that would be good. But to me it was more important to have this free energy system.

But the UFO thing: it may sound circumstantial to some, but as far as I'm concerned it's proven. As part of the Disclosure Project, Donna Hare - a NASA photographic scientist who had a Top Secret clearance and was in Building 8 at Johnson Space Center - she says in her testimony that one of her colleagues who was doing some photographic work invited her over to look at it. And she saw high-res satellite images of half a k[ilometer] above the treetops - I think it was like a white disk.

And she at first thought: Oh; it's a blob in the emulsion, you know, some kind of fault with the photographic process. And he said: well, look, you know, blobs in the emulsion don't have perfectly formed shadows going in the same direction as the trees? Etcetera, etcetera. All the detail was there. And she basically was saying that they had this whole base in Building 8 for airbrushing out UFOs on a regular basis, because they then sell on their images to universities and the like.

And having been all over other NASA installations already - I asumed the blank password scanning method will work the same at Johnson Space Center - and it did. Once I was in there, I used various network commands to strip out the machines that were in Building 8. And I got on to those. And the very first one I was on literally had what she said. I can't remember if it was "Filtered" and "Raw", Processed" and "Unprocessed," but there were definitely folders whereby there was a transformation in the data taking place between one and the other.

These folders were full of images in a proprietary NASA format, or in a format I'd never seen before: no jpegs or gifs. They were also 200 to 300 megabytes in size. And being on a 56K dial-up modem, there was no way I was going to download that at five minutes per megabyte.

So what I did... The remote control program that gives you graphical control of the machine - I turned the resolution right down to, I think, 4-bit color and then on the desktop on the NASA machine, navigated to the folder, double-clicked on the first image. The application launches. The image comes up on the screen, but it's still very, very slow.

And what I saw, or was hoping to see, was what she was describing as a saucer, very definite imagery. And what instead I saw I assume was the Earth. This was in shades of gray. You had the Earth's hemisphere taking up about 2/3 of the screen and then halfway between the top of the hemisphere and the bottom of the picture there was a classic sort of cigar-shaped object, but with golf-ball domes, geodesic domes, above, below, and this side [gesturing to the right], and I assume the other side as well. It had very slightly flattened cigar ends. No seams. No rivets. No telemetry antennae or anything like that. It looked... it just had a feeling of not being man-made. There was none of the signs of human manufacturing.

KC: So in essence it was a craft, is what you're saying?

GM: Yeah. At first when I saw the top half I thought: Bollocks, it's just a boring satellite picture. But as more of the thing was revealed, it was obvious it wasn't like any satellite I'd ever seen. I've been space-mad since I was about 14, so I've seen lots of pictures of satellites.

KC: OK. So you knew what you were looking at, to some degree. [Gary nods.] So, basically, did you feel during those two years that you were doing this investigation, threatened by what you were doing? I mean, technically, you got caught out by one guy, right? [Gary nods yes.] Was that the only time?

GM: No. That guy, that network engineer, sort of saw me but didn't realize that I shouldn't have been there. The chap that actually caught me was in NASA when this photograph was about ¾ of the way down on the screen. He sees the mouse move, he right-clicks the local area network connection icon, chooses Disconnect, and - bash, that's me. And that's why it was such a strange moment. It was triumphant in a way, of course. I had completely corroborated what Donna Hare had said on my own, but then got caught at the very same moment.

KC: Right. So, can you tell me what else you found? Because I know you have some information in regard to Non-Terrestrial Officers. Is that right?

GM: Yeah. There was an Excel spreadsheet and the title was "Non-Terrestrial Officers," and it had names, ranks... it wasn't a long list; it didn't fill the whole screen.

KC: Could you just generally say how many? I mean, if you were to guess, are we talking 20, 50?

GM: 20, maybe 30.

GM: Yeah. I mean, that was the title "Non-Terrestrial Officers", and obviously it's not little green men. So I was thinking: What force is this? And that phrase is nowhere to be found on the web or in official Army documentation or anything. And the other thing was a list of ship-to-ship and fleet-to-fleet transfers - and bear in mind fleet-to-fleet, that means multiple ships - movement of materials. And these ships weren't, you know, US Navy ships. Again, I don't remember any of the names, but I remember at the time looking and trying to match up the names, and there wasn't anything that matched.

KC: So, now, this theoretically would have been pretty top secret information if indeed non-terrestrial is what it sounds to be, which is off-world, right?

GM: Yeah. I mean, I gleaned from that information... What I surmised is that an off-planet Space Marines is being formed. And if you actually look at DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, literature at the moment and in the last few years, a lot of government and space command stuff is all about space dominance. It is really, you know, the final frontier. Yeah, so I think it's natural for them to want to control space and to be developing a space-going force in secret. But I think most likely using technology reverse-engineered from ETs.

KC: OK, so at this point this kind of a discovery is really stupendous, right? I mean, for any researcher to come across something like that is pretty intense.

GM: If... [searching for words]... what I surmise to be correct was correct, yes. And it does kind of point that way, I think.

KC: OK. Are you familiar with the Serpo story? We've mentioned it to you. But I don't know if you've actually... because you're not on the web, right? You haven't been on the web for a number of years?

GM: That's correct. Yes.

GM: My bail conditions, yeah.

KC: That's part of your... what do you call? Probation

KC: So perhaps you didn't know about it, but it's an alien-human exchange program that supposedly took place between, I think it's 1965 and 1978. And there's been a release of information on the web, and I've given you an article here from The Fortean Times to kind of fill you in on it.

But just offhand and hearing about this, there were 12 astronauts that actually went to another planet. The planet was called Serpo in the Zeta Reticulian system - supposedly. Now, a lot of people say this is all disinfo, but the interesting thing is that when you say non-terrestrial officers, there's actually a chance that it could be the Serpo astronauts that this is referring to. Does that link up for you at all?

GM: Well, yes, it certainly could do. I think all things are possible in these kinds of cases. I think... hmmm. I mean, just the fact that it's not based on Earth doesn't necessarily mean it's orbiting the Earth, does it? It could be based on another planet, in another solar system.

Sorry about the under lines towards the end can't get them removed.

KC: That's part of your... what do you call? Probation

[oaksoft]

What the hell?

Did someone hack your BAWA account or something?

[Lex]

What a load of guff.

[shull]

Direct me to the St Mirren Team Formation Thread.

All is forgiven.

Edited July 6, 2013 by shull

[Callum Gilhooley]

What position does he play ?

[zurich_allan]

It's all good - we know the information will come out in the end. After all, we have hoverboards by 2015 don't we?...

[faraway saint]

Is he a relation of Ronnie McKinnon?

Mods, please shift this pish to anywhere but this forum.

If proof were needed that copy and pasting isn't what it's cracked up to be.

Edited July 6, 2013 by faraway saint

[groucho]

mmmmm giant cigars

[Isle Of Bute Saint]

No surprises so far with the trolling elite. Plenty factual evidence on you tube from the space station speaking to ground control. Of course with billions upon billions of star systems out there that were born thousands of years before our own system it would be absolute bonkers to think we are the supreme intelligence everywhere. Faraway Saint is a prime example of our intelligence having worked out the Interview was a copy and paste job

[shull]

Formation dancing website for me now instead of this megatripe from L.S.

Sorry Ian

[TediousTom]

A couple of questions spring to mind when I read about this Gary McKinnon chap.

In fact I now have three

1) Can he play left back?

2) Can he play up front?

3) If Div is busy could this be the guy we need to revamp the official site?

[faraway saint]

No surprises so far with the trolling elite. Plenty factual evidence on you tube from the space station speaking to ground control. Of course with billions upon billions of star systems out there that were born thousands of years before our own system it would be absolute bonkers to think we are the supreme intelligence everywhere. Faraway Saint is a prime example of our intelligence having worked out the Interview was a copy and paste job

That O level in cookery has come in handy before now.

[oaksoft]

No surprises so far with the trolling elite. Plenty factual evidence on you tube from the space station speaking to ground control. Of course with billions upon billions of star systems out there that were born thousands of years before our own system it would be absolute bonkers to think we are the supreme intelligence everywhere. Faraway Saint is a prime example of our intelligence having worked out the Interview was a copy and paste job

Seriously what did you expect posting this utter tripe.

Factual evidence on Youtube? Is it possible to laugh so hard that your pancreas comes out of yor ears cos something is pressing on my drum?

[Isle Of Bute Saint]

Seriously what did you expect posting this utter tripe.

Factual evidence on Youtube? Is it possible to laugh so hard that your pancreas comes out of yor ears cos something is pressing on my drum?

Yes the world is flat even though everything above is round. I mean how can their possibly be intelligent life elsewhere when we are the masters of all life forms. To me that makes you hilarious. As wrote do a bit of research and your mind might just stretch a bit further than it is capable of at this time.

1978 the blackbird American air force jet crossed the Atlantic ocean in 30min This information was not out in the open till decades later. Here we are in 2013 30 years later and nothing has moved forward. Free energy yes I can see the richest men in the world who have a say in government would just love that sort of thing being available to the masses.

Why would the Americans spend vast sums of money trying to bring McKinnon to justice cost 100,000 of $ because what he seen was a load of keech , I think not.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Lochwinnoch Saint

[faraway saint]

Yes the world is flat even though everything above is round. I mean how can their possibly be intelligent life elsewhere when we are the masters of all life forms. To me that makes you hilarious. As wrote do a bit of research and your mind might just stretch a bit further than it is capable of at this time.

I mean how can their possibly be intelligent life elsewhere when we are the masters of all life forms. To me that makes you hilarious. As wrote do a bit of research and your mind might just stretch a bit further than it is capable of at this time. In 1978 the blackbird American air force jet crossed the Atlantic ocean in 30min This information was not out in the open till decades later. Here we are in 2013 30 years later and nothing has moved forward. Free energy yes I can see the richest men in the world who have a say in government would just love that sort of thing being available to the masses.

Someone call the grammar police and the men in white coats.

[Isle Of Bute Saint]

Someone call the grammar police and the men in white coats.

Someone call the grammar police and the men in white coats.

Have you got a tent pitched on this forum as your poor little life does not seem to live elsewhere on here from morning till late at night 7 days a week

[faraway saint]

Have you got a tent pitched on this forum as your poor little life does not seem to live elsewhere on here from morning till late at night 7 days a week

[Isle Of Bute Saint]

What ? Dose the truth hurt as all you seem to do is troll filing up the forum with fresh air posts. You don’t watch Saints though I admit you must have some sort of feeling for the club. It’s not really health devoting your whole life to this forum. God forbid if you died tomorrow what will you have achived ? The troll king of the blackandwhitearmy.com , hardy a life Faraway

[faraway saint]

What ? Dose the truth hurt as all you seem to do is troll filing up the forum with fresh air posts. You don’t watch Saints though I admit you must have some sort of feeling for the club. It’s not really health devoting your whole life to this forum. God forbid if you died tomorrow what will you have achived ? The troll king of the blackandwhitearmy.com , hardy a life Faraway

LS, I'm fighting the urge.....................fcuk it, you're a moron.

[shull]

I've nothing to say.

[faraway saint]

I've nothing to say.

I'll help you out....................LS is a fcuking nutter.

[shull]

I'll help you out....................LS is a fcuking nutter.

Hey Old King Troll !!!

That's very uncomplimentary towards a fellow Buddie.

REPORTED FOR ABUSE !!

Hing yir heid in shame !

Edited July 7, 2013 by shull

[oaksoft]

Yes the world is flat even though everything above is round. I mean how can their possibly be intelligent life elsewhere when we are the masters of all life forms. To me that makes you hilarious. As wrote do a bit of research and your mind might just stretch a bit further than it is capable of at this time.

1978 the blackbird American air force jet crossed the Atlantic ocean in 30min This information was not out in the open till decades later. Here we are in 2013 30 years later and nothing has moved forward. Free energy yes I can see the richest men in the world who have a say in government would just love that sort of thing being available to the masses.

Why would the Americans spend vast sums of money trying to bring McKinnon to justice cost 100,000 of $ because what he seen was a load of keech , I think not.

Free energy?

So you think all the known laws of physics are wrong, that only the Americans know about it and they alone are keeping it a secret in some kind of weird mass conspiracy?

As happy as I am to laugh at your first two posts because I genuinely thought you were joking, I think you may have some "issues" and so I'm going to bail. I have no time for conspiracy theories.

[shull]

Summat has vanished.

Strange thread right enough.

I'm scared !!!!

[davidg]

Free energy?

So you think all the known laws of physics are wrong, that only the Americans know about it and they alone are keeping it a secret in some kind of weird mass conspiracy?

As happy as I am to laugh at your first two posts because I genuinely thought you were joking, I think you may have some "issues" and so I'm going to bail. I have no time for conspiracy theories.

It runs on water Man !!!!!

Summat has vanished.

Strange thread right enough.

I'm scared !!!!

Couldn't get the video uploaded, think it's the FBI !!!

Edited July 8, 2013 by davidg