saintnextlifetime Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 No, it's not that to which SNLT is referring. LMFAO. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 This is getting a bit ridiculous now. We need to get some common sense, intelligence and, above all, honesty back in this thread. Where is Dorothy when you need him? Do you think he's out with his friends? You went too far , with that. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 So you don't think he has any friends? No , no , there are friends of Dorothy , out there . . I believe. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Lloyds bank set to announce 9000 jobs going and branches closing. Imagine how bad this could've been if we'd voted yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 New oil field discovered in North Sea. Announcement made by BP and suez. Oil was drying up if we voted yes. This new find must be a benefit of voting no then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 New oil field discovered in North Sea. Announcement made by BP and suez. Oil was drying up if we voted yes. This new find must be a benefit of voting no then... At least they had the decency not to announce their "discovery" on the 19th of September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'll bow to your obvious experience in the matter. Cheeky baisturt. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 New oil field discovered in North Sea. Announcement made by BP and suez. Oil was drying up if we voted yes. This new find must be a benefit of voting no then... and the announcement of the true extent of reserves in the Clare field is still pending Bad news for the UK, that pesky oil is bad stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 More ridiculous legislation proposed from the Scottish Government as they plan to reduce the legal limit to 50mg of Alcohol per 100ml of blood, down from 80mg per 100ml. McAskill says the reduction is to reduce the number of drink drive accidents that happen on the road, but is it really? One in ten road deaths is currently attributed to drivers being over the 80mg limit. No statistics exist to show how many road deaths are caused by drivers who have between 50mg and 80mg per 100ml but it would be pretty easy to assume the proportion would be incredibly small and whilst lowering the drink drive limit will grab headlines, it certainly won't deal with the real issues on the road like bad driving, speeding and poor road planning and maintenance. I also found it funny last night to watch Alex Salmond on Question Time claim that a life sentence should mean life in the case of murder, when it was HIS government that released Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi having served just 8 years of his life sentence for the murder of 270 people on a Pan Am flight over Lockerbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 And in other news Salmond says he may stand for election to Westminster as an MP once he steps down as First Minister. Well duh! The money grabbing bastard was hardly likely to give up his opportunity to continue to screw the taxpayer for all he can for personal gain. How the f**k else could he put expensive American holidays for him and his wife on expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) So you are lambasting them for potentially making the roads safer? It sure as hell isn't going to make them any more dangerous, is it? Why would it be easy to assume what you claim? You're just talking shite again. As for al-Megrahi, I've asked you this before without reply, what laws/guidelines/whatever were broken or not adhered to in his release and what laws/guidelines/whatever were adhered to? Whether or not you agree with the law/guidelines/whatever is not relevant and nether is your opinion of the release - just give me the legal stuff. Maybe if life meant life at the time of the offence - before devolution before you start blaming the SNP for it - then he wouldn't have been released. You're obviously still a f**king idiot. There's no evidence they are making the roads safer. There's no figures available on the number of accidents caused by drivers who have more than 50mg but less than 80mg per 100ml in their blood. The figures we do have is that only 10% of all road deaths just now is attributable to drivers with MORE than 80mg per 100ml in their blood which shows there are significantly greater factors on the road affecting road safety - none of which the Scottish Parliament is willing to tackle. Even the Advanced Drivers Institute was critical today saying that this was more about revenue raising from fines than it was about road safety. George Goldie added "He added: "We have very few statistics, if any, to show how many accidents are caused by people who are marginally over the limit. Most of the accidents are caused by people who are blatantly blitzed. "I'm much more concerned about improving driving, as opposed to improving the one in 10. I am much, much more interested in improving the nine in 10." As for Megrahi it's Salmond's hypocrisy that I am referring to. He claimed that Westminister should make life mean life and yet in Scotland his government has failed to do this. Indeed it hasn't even put a motion forward to do this, and in one of the highest profile cases the world has ever seen where the one person convicted of one of the biggest mass murders of all time served only 8 years for 270 deaths thanks to an SNP government. Edited October 24, 2014 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 RoSPA are in favour of lowering the limit, IAM (stands for Institue of Advanced Motorists, never heard of the ADI and neither I'm sure has George Goldie of the IAM) are not in favour. Norn Irn are also planning to lower the limit, Westminster was consulted with a view to doing same however they are intending keeping current level, although they are removing the rights of drivers to ask for a blood test Anyway, enough of the facts - personally, I am not convinced that lowering the drink drive limit will make a huge difference to incidents. A lot of incidents are caused by a hard core who are way over the current limit. Obviously the police have a different view to mine... The IAM view is a strange one though - they appear to oppose the plan as it will not improve all driver's behaviour, i.e. prevent all road deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) More ridiculous legislation proposed from the Scottish Government as they plan to reduce the legal limit to 50mg of Alcohol per 100ml of blood, down from 80mg per 100ml. McAskill says the reduction is to reduce the number of drink drive accidents that happen on the road, but is it really? One in ten road deaths is currently attributed to drivers being over the 80mg limit. No statistics exist to show how many road deaths are caused by drivers who have between 50mg and 80mg per 100ml but it would be pretty easy to assume the proportion would be incredibly small and whilst lowering the drink drive limit will grab headlines, it certainly won't deal with the real issues on the road like bad driving, speeding and poor road planning and maintenance. You are relying on the wrong numbers. You want to wait until we have people dying in their thousands due to drink driving before taking an obvious legal move? The only factor here is science. What does science say about the effect on the brain of consuming a pint of beer. Check out the literature and let us know what you find. In the meantime the rest of us can be assured that we have a government prepared to put safety ahead of people's rather odd desire to drive under the influence of alcohol. Edited October 24, 2014 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 There's no evidence they are making the roads safer. Seriously? You're claiming there's absolutely no evidence that a pint of beer affects your capabilities? Are our populace so badly educated that folk actually believe that a pint has no effect? Do those folk think that people have a single glass of wine after work simply for its taste? We ban LOTS of things without waiting for death statistics to justify it. Those bans are driven by science and for a very good reason. Imagine using the lack of deaths as a reason for allowing something you know factually affects your ability to concentrate. In industry, waiting for deaths to occur when you KNOW you're doing something harmful is gross negligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 You are relying on the wrong numbers. You want to wait until we have people dying in their thousands due to drink driving before taking an obvious legal move? The only factor here is science. What does science say about the effect on the brain of consuming a pint of beer. Check out the literature and let us know what you find. In the meantime the rest of us can be assured that we have a government prepared to put safety ahead of people's rather odd desire to drink under the influence of alcohol. You might want to review that last paragraph... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Some light relief http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/analysis/296870-devomax-daily-stephen-daisley-on-new-north-sea-oil-discovery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 You might want to review that last paragraph... I typed it after I had one glass of wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I typed it after I had one glass of wine.Was it one of those large ones that takes a bottle full of plonk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Was it one of those large ones that takes a bottle full of plonk? In my house we call that size of glass "medium". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 I call it a 9 unit glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 New opinion poll shows 66% want another referendum within 10 years and 52% want one within 5 years. Scottish Labour is dead and SNP are on the March. Bring it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 I want another referendum! I wonder how much we'd win by this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 New opinion poll shows 66% want another referendum within 10 years and 52% want one within 5 years. Scottish Labour is dead and SNP are on the March. Bring it on! Just wait till UKIP start to get more coverage. The only way is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I want another referendum! I wonder how much we'd win by this time? You won't because 45% voted yes despite the scares and lies. Second time round a Yes vote is a certainty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 You won't because 45% voted yes despite the scares and lies. Second time round a Yes vote is a certainty Actually, it was 44.7%. What makes it a certainty exactly? 44.7% was a massive overachievement by YES. We should have won by more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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