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SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE...... With almost a month to the deadline!

Get In Buds!!!

Guess what group of fans will have a major shareholding in their club come the new season???

Your motivational posts really are cringeworthy!!!

I've been commenting on the slow uptake for a few weeks, but with the deadline announced I'm now convinced that this will get over the line. With this being the traditional pay week, (even though DDs won't be taken til later) I think people will be waiting until after that to sign up.

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Your motivational posts really are cringeworthy!!!

I've been commenting on the slow uptake for a few weeks, but with the deadline announced I'm now convinced that this will get over the line. With this being the traditional pay week, (even though DDs won't be taken til later) I think people will be waiting until after that to sign up.

You're baseless predictions of doom and gloom speak volumes. Have you signed up yet?

Aye or naw?

This is happening, there will be a fan-led buy out of SMFC, a new dawn is on the horizon, the change many have wished for is now firmly in our hands.

If you think thats cringeworthy, fine. The fans are once again making it happen.

I have been commenting in my belief that St Mirren fans would back this in the numbers required for a few weeks. Each to their own.

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You're baseless predictions of doom and gloom speak volumes. Have you signed up yet?

Aye or naw?

This is happening, there will be a fan-led buy out of SMFC, a new dawn is on the horizon, the change many have wished for is now firmly in our hands.

If you think thats cringeworthy, fine. The fans are once again making it happen.

I have been commenting in my belief that St Mirren fans would back this in the numbers required for a few weeks. Each to their own.

I have said we will get the numbers required in the post you quoted, what's doom and gloom about that?

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I am one of several St.Mirren fans who have not yet signed-up, but I truly hope GLS and SMISA make it. My question is

* Is their a consortium or an individual out their that is prepared immediately to purchase the club should SMISA fail to get enough St.Mirren fans to commit? Please no guesswork, and it is not necessary to give the name of the other party/parties that are a cert.

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I am one of several St.Mirren fans who have not yet signed-up, but I truly hope GLS and SMISA make it. My question is

* Is their a consortium or an individual out their that is prepared immediately to purchase the club should SMISA fail to get enough St.Mirren fans to commit? Please no guesswork, and it is not necessary to give the name of the other party/parties that are a cert.

That is the big question. It was stated at the last meeting that there was another interested party. Due to commercial confidentiality the identity of that group or individual was not disclosed .

However, my understanding is that as things stand there has been NO bid from any other groups.

There is a big difference between being interested, perhaps preparing a bid to actually having & showing the money or the means to buy the Club.

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SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE...... With almost a month to the deadline!

Get In Buds!!!

Guess what group of fans will have a major shareholding in their club come the new season???

Dunno tell us? Won't be st mirren fans. Not for ten years anyway. Edited by slapsalmon

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I've just listened to the meeting and if I'm honest had I not already committed I'm not sure I'd have been sold. There didn't seem to be any vision or any particular knowledge to suggest that there would be new ideas or initiatives.

I've raised my concern that no one appears to be talking about an SEN business model. It makes me concerned that no one has looked at that possiblity and yet it's exactly the kind of business model that fits football clubs like a glove.

Has Gordon Scott or anyone at SMiSA looked at The Atlantis model, the Homeless Football model or even at the models in place at Edinburgh Spartans? Has anyone considered the potential for lots of new small revenue streams coming into the club to reinvest in expansion? Has anyone been talking to local juvenile sports clubs or to community groups about how sharing resources could benefit all?

If it's just going to be more of the same then that's a terrible waste of yet another golden opportunity

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Dunno tell us? Won't be st mirren fans. Not for ten years anyway.

ST Mirren fans will own 29.6 % of the club as soon as the deal is done. Then in/by ten years we have an agreement to buy the other shares from Gordon.

Talk to Smisa, or visit their website, all the info is there.

Edited by Lord Pityme

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I've just listened to the meeting and if I'm honest had I not already committed I'm not sure I'd have been sold. There didn't seem to be any vision or any particular knowledge to suggest that there would be new ideas or initiatives.

I've raised my concern that no one appears to be talking about an SEN business model. It makes me concerned that no one has looked at that possiblity and yet it's exactly the kind of business model that fits football clubs like a glove.

Has Gordon Scott or anyone at SMiSA looked at The Atlantis model, the Homeless Football model or even at the models in place at Edinburgh Spartans? Has anyone considered the potential for lots of new small revenue streams coming into the club to reinvest in expansion? Has anyone been talking to local juvenile sports clubs or to community groups about how sharing resources could benefit all?

If it's just going to be more of the same then that's a terrible waste of yet another golden opportunity

As you've signed up, why not contact themn and ask them yourself? Suggest that they look at the initialtives to which you refer. Is that not the whole point of this exercise - to devolve more influence to the support (and, er, customer) base?

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As you've signed up, why not contact themn and ask them yourself? Suggest that they look at the initialtives to which you refer. Is that not the whole point of this exercise - to devolve more influence to the support (and, er, customer) base?

Erm well that's exactly what I am doing..... :rolleyes: I could give them more to look at too but it seems strange given that the 10,000hours model was an SEN that they wouldn't have started there. There's huge opportunities there but all I heard was that they were planning to use existing models with the hope that someone somewhere could find some improvement to benefit the club. That's not at all dynamic and it won't fill doubters with confidence.

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Well the way I see it is that if the bid is a success then there will be an extra 24k more a season to invest than the current mode of operation

New Tannoy System in South Stand please.

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Well the way I see it is that if the bid is a success then there will be an extra 24k more a season to invest than the current mode of operation

Yeah but it's just squeezing the same people for more money.

I'd really recommend SMiSA and GLS getting themselves far more clued up on SEN's and on the various successful examples out there and doing so as quickly as possible. There are so many different revenue streams that could be opened up by going down the SEN route and you'd think with Gordon Scott being a joiner he'd have been well aware of at least one of them.

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Yeah but it's just squeezing the same people for more money.

I'd really recommend SMiSA and GLS getting themselves far more clued up on SEN's and on the various successful examples out there and doing so as quickly as possible. There are so many different revenue streams that could be opened up by going down the SEN route and you'd think with Gordon Scott being a joiner he'd have been well aware of at least one of them.

I think it needs to be one step at a time, we all know (or think we know) the clubs failings, once the deal is done, then the meat can can be added to the bones re how things will interact etc.

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I think it needs to be one step at a time, we all know (or think we know) the clubs failings, once the deal is done, then the meat can can be added to the bones re how things will interact etc.

Yeah I get that and I presume that's the issue. I had an e-mail exchange with Barry Mitchell just before the meeting and he said that Supporters Direct were looking at getting fan owned football clubs some sort of quasi charity status and that may be why things appear to be a bit frozen in time. It's just I think it's the hole in the presentation. If you want to inspire people to back a new board you really need to show them why the new board would be better than the old board and from listening to the meeting it sounded to me like the only response GLS and SMiSA would give was that they would run the club in the same way, but they'd hope that fresh eyes would be able to make some changes that would benefit the club.

Back when the 10000Hours bid was kicking off, I just happened to be in a place where representatives from the SFA were pushing our juvenile football club to look at becoming an SEN and the ways in which we could adapt out club to take advantage of the various different funding streams that were available. I went to a conference, where by the way many of the experts weren't convinced by the 10000Hours offering or structure, and saw some absolutely superb examples of what could be done. I'm no expert by any manner of means but I would happily point people in the direction of real experts who have grown their clubs and their SEN business - I'm sure REA would be even better placed to help. I just can't understand why that's not part of the presentation by the stage.

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I think it needs to be one step at a time, we all know (or think we know) the clubs failings, once the deal is done, then the meat can can be added to the bones re how things will interact etc.

Indeed.

No need to get ahead of ourselves.

Financing the deal is the priority.

The rest will come in time.

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Yeah I get that and I presume that's the issue. I had an e-mail exchange with Barry Mitchell just before the meeting and he said that Supporters Direct were looking at getting fan owned football clubs some sort of quasi charity status and that may be why things appear to be a bit frozen in time. It's just I think it's the hole in the presentation. If you want to inspire people to back a new board you really need to show them why the new board would be better than the old board and from listening to the meeting it sounded to me like the only response GLS and SMiSA would give was that they would run the club in the same way, but they'd hope that fresh eyes would be able to make some changes that would benefit the club.

Back when the 10000Hours bid was kicking off, I just happened to be in a place where representatives from the SFA were pushing our juvenile football club to look at becoming an SEN and the ways in which we could adapt out club to take advantage of the various different funding streams that were available. I went to a conference, where by the way many of the experts weren't convinced by the 10000Hours offering or structure, and saw some absolutely superb examples of what could be done. I'm no expert by any manner of means but I would happily point people in the direction of real experts who have grown their clubs and their SEN business - I'm sure REA would be even better placed to help. I just can't understand why that's not part of the presentation by the stage.

Sorry Stuart,

SEN?

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I am one of several St.Mirren fans who have not yet signed-up, but I truly hope GLS and SMISA make it. My question is

* Is their a consortium or an individual out their that is prepared immediately to purchase the club should SMISA fail to get enough St.Mirren fans to commit? Please no guesswork, and it is not necessary to give the name of the other party/parties that are a cert.

If I could go with just a wee bit of guesswork, it would be that any other interested buyer wouldn't show their hand until after the smisa bid failed. This way they get to offer a lot less.

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I've just listened to the meeting and if I'm honest had I not already committed I'm not sure I'd have been sold. There didn't seem to be any vision or any particular knowledge to suggest that there would be new ideas or initiatives.

I've raised my concern that no one appears to be talking about an SEN business model. It makes me concerned that no one has looked at that possiblity and yet it's exactly the kind of business model that fits football clubs like a glove.

Has Gordon Scott or anyone at SMiSA looked at The Atlantis model, the Homeless Football model or even at the models in place at Edinburgh Spartans? Has anyone considered the potential for lots of new small revenue streams coming into the club to reinvest in expansion? Has anyone been talking to local juvenile sports clubs or to community groups about how sharing resources could benefit all?

If it's just going to be more of the same then that's a terrible waste of yet another golden opportunity

The club has to be in new ownership before you can start making promises. Dont put the cart before the horse.

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