The Politics Thread

[ALBIONSAINT]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11rp7m8mko

keep your eye on Paisley! 
 

Edited June 27, 2024 by ALBIONSAINT

[faraway saint]

On 6/26/2024 at 9:40 PM, stlucifer said:

Listen to the pro union parties. It's the other way around. All we get from unionists is SNP bad and blame them for everything

And the exact same from the SNP, blaming the UK government for everything despite having complete control in Scotland for years and making little progress hence the reason it's looking like they will get their just desserts in a couple of weeks. 

[faraway saint]

Not long now, I'm eagerly awaiting the results when I get up on Friday morning. 🍿🍿🍿

 

[stlucifer]

[FTOF]

In a similar vein...........................

[ALBIONSAINT]

Looks like we getting out of the EU was probably best for the country in the long run….

[portmahomack saint]

On 6/28/2024 at 8:02 AM, faraway saint said:

And the exact same from the SNP, blaming the UK government for everything despite having complete control in Scotland for years and making little progress hence the reason it's looking like they will get their just desserts in a couple of weeks. 

How wrong can one be ? are you really that naive or just stupid , whatever one it is. you've just took it to new limits  Complete control 

[faraway saint]

5 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

How wrong can one be ? are you really that naive or just stupid , whatever one it is. you've just took it to new limits  Complete control 

Don't get all upset about a generalisation. 

Let's see how the public vote on Thursday, it's looking like, despite having control over all matters Scottish, the SNP have blew it. 

A tsunami of salty tears. 

PS A capital letter is the norm when starting a new sentence. 

Edited July 1, 2024 by faraway saint

[stlucifer]

8 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

How wrong can one be ? are you really that naive or just stupid , whatever one it is. you've just took it to new limits  Complete control 

I am almost tempted t take him off ignore to watch him squirm over that stupid statement.

Edited July 1, 2024 by stlucifer

[ALBIONSAINT]

Do the SNP still advocate for returning to the EU? The U.K. is turning left while the EU countries are turning right.

[faraway saint]

1 hour ago, stlucifer said:

I am almost tempted t take him off ignore to watch him squirm over that stupid statement.

Now, anyone who believes this drivel is deranged. 😂😂😂

Some people believe anything they find on the Internet. 🤡

[stlucifer]

1 hour ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

Do the SNP still advocate for returning to the EU? The U.K. is turning left while the EU countries are turning right.

I don't believe the new labour party is left wing, in fact they chose to NOT contest a seat in Scotland in the hope that the tory candidate would take it, and those countries that are unbelievably turning to the extreme right will no doubt do the same as the UK did and leave the EU to their detriment. I hope this is a very temporary stage as I fear for the entire world if it continues.

ETA I would say that England is lurching to the right

As it stands, we need an expansive market and, like it or not, we have one right on our doorstep which we were force to put unnecessary barriers on so YES it still makes sense to ensure we have free use of this fantastic opportunity.

Edited July 1, 2024 by stlucifer

[ALBIONSAINT]

Yet more deflection, this is why the SNP are losing support. Covid is now a catch all for every possible scenario. The waiting lists were massive before 2020. Covid hasn’t helped but I just wish a politician would take some responsibility.

[stlucifer]

2 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

Yet more deflection, this is why the SNP are losing support. Covid is now a catch all for every possible scenario. The waiting lists were massive before 2020. Covid hasn’t helped but I just wish a politician would take some responsibility.

The waiting lists in ALL parts of the UK are at an all time high, Partly due to Covid. I believe you've only covered part of the reply from Sweeney. Typical and expected.

[ALBIONSAINT]

2 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

The waiting lists in ALL parts of the UK are at an all time high, Partly due to Covid. I believe you've only covered part of the reply from Sweeney. Typical and expected.

Oh come on! You have used this thread as a party political broadcast for the SNP over the last month and you now can’t defend there leaders comments on a devolved issue. 

[ALBIONSAINT]

16 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

I don't believe the new labour party is left wing, in fact they chose to NOT contest a seat in Scotland in the hope that the tory candidate would take it, and those countries that are unbelievably turning to the extreme right will no doubt do the same as the UK did and leave the EU to their detriment. I hope this is a very temporary stage as I fear for the entire world if it continues.

ETA I would say that England is lurching to the right

As it stands, we need an expansive market and, like it or not, we have one right on our doorstep which we were force to put unnecessary barriers on so YES it still makes sense to ensure we have free use of this fantastic opportunity.

Just stop it, my sides can’t take anymore 😂

[stlucifer]

46 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

Oh come on! You have used this thread as a party political broadcast for the SNP over the last month and you now can’t defend there leaders comments on a devolved issue. 

I have used this thread as a platform for independence.

I'm not trying to defend the SNP. I am telling you that, though devolved, the NHS still requires funding. That funding is driven by the pocket money the UK gives Scotland. PLUS a bit MORE raised by the progressive tax revenue the SNP have delivered. 

I have already indicated in this thread that I am not certain  to vote for them in the upcoming Hollyrood election as I don't agree with all they've done while in "power".

The election now in progress is for a UK government. My vote will ALWAYS be for a pro national party. The ONLY one capable of delivering a majority of pro national MPs IS the SNP. If/when we get the right due to us by way of the previous TWO elections to decide our future I hope we grasp it with both hands. Then we can decide, in Scotland, for Scotland, the type of party we want to lead us.

[stlucifer]

1 hour ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

Just stop it, my sides can’t take anymore 😂

You're point being?

The only thing this proves is that Starmer has no principals and can't be trusted. His thirst for power outweighs any political leaning he claimed to have. As far as Labour principals are concerned, he's thrown the baby out with the bathwater, followed by the bath.

Edited July 1, 2024 by stlucifer

[faraway saint]

9 hours ago, stlucifer said:

I am almost tempted t take him off ignore to watch him squirm over that stupid statement.

Sums this up perfectly...............

[portmahomack saint]

14 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Don't get all upset about a generalisation. 

Let's see how the public vote on Thursday, it's looking like, despite having control over all matters Scottish, the SNP have blew it. 

A tsunami of salty tears. 

PS A capital letter is the norm when starting a new sentence. 

This election was never going to favour the SNP anyone with a bit of knowledge will know that. Brexit is not on the menu this time neither is independence or a referendum as both masters have said the Scots will do as there told no matter that they voted in a Scottish Government to have one. 

This election is all about getting rid of this disastrous Tory government

Of course that won't stop the media portraying it as the end of independence as well as fartaway Albion the right winger

2026 Scottish election will be a different ball game 

[faraway saint]

9 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said:

This election was never going to favour the SNP anyone with a bit of knowledge will know that.

Stopped reading after that. 

[portmahomack saint]

2 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Stopped reading after that. 

That doesn't surprise me you've never been comfortable with the truth facts or reality 

So before you start wetting yourself at the downfall of the independence movement look back to the General Election 2010 before this shit show that the Tories have created {Brexit etc,}  the SNP share or the Scottish electorate was 19%. and won 6 seats so judge it against that., and in this union would it actually make any difference if they won all 59 seats at Westminster

My prediction is the SNP will win about 15 seats, 59 or 15 does it really matter we get who England votes for, this time it's Starmer and Labour.

Our own parliament elections in 2026 is when the people of Scotland can make their choice on Scotland's future, and hopefully they will.

 

[faraway saint]

5 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

That doesn't surprise me you've never been comfortable with the truth facts or reality 

So before you start wetting yourself at the downfall of the independence movement look back to the General Election 2010 before this shit show that the Tories have created {Brexit etc,}  the SNP share or the Scottish electorate was 19%. and won 6 seats so judge it against that., and in this union would it actually make any difference if they won all 59 seats at Westminster

My prediction is the SNP will win about 15 seats, 59 or 15 does it really matter we get who England votes for, this time it's Starmer and Labour.

Our own parliament elections in 2026 is when the people of Scotland can make their choice on Scotland's future, and hopefully they will.

 

Oh, you mean the reality that Livingston were a hard nut to crack?

You're well known for making bizarre statements so, if you don't mind, I'll look for my information elsewhere. 

I'm not wetting myself over anything, I've already stated that I don't get in a mess, like you and a few others, what happens on Thursday.

I take responsibility for my life, not whining about whoever happens to be in Westminster, or Holyrood.

Aye, 2026, another couple of years of seeth. 

PS It's looking like I might be voting for the SNP guy up here as he seems to be the best guy for the job. 

Edited July 2, 2024 by faraway saint

[ALBIONSAINT]

13 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

This election was never going to favour the SNP anyone with a bit of knowledge will know that. Brexit is not on the menu this time neither is independence or a referendum as both masters have said the Scots will do as there told no matter that they voted in a Scottish Government to have one. 

This election is all about getting rid of this disastrous Tory government

Of course that won't stop the media portraying it as the end of independence as well as fartaway Albion the right winger

2026 Scottish election will be a different ball game 

Not right wing, just right up until now. If you think that standing against liberal fascism is right wing then I suggest you don’t know much about politics. 

[portmahomack saint]

5 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Oh, you mean the reality that Livingston were a hard nut to crack?

You're well known for making bizarre statements so, if you don't mind, I'll look for my information elsewhere. 

I'm not wetting myself over anything, I've already stated that I don't get in a mess, like you and a few others, what happens on Thursday.

I take responsibility for my life, not whining about whoever happens to be in Westminster, or Holyrood.

Aye, 2026, another couple of years of seeth. 

PS It's looking like I might be voting for the SNP guy up here as he seems to be the best guy for the job. 

You even have arguments with yourself it seems    or did you fall out of bed and bang yer head this morning or are your just a 24 hours 7 days a week wind up merchant just to get folk to converse with you as most on here have you on ignore 

Don't answer that as you'll just cause a argument in yer own head later tonight