Hunterian Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Why not, other sections of society are demanding that there cultural needs are met. BBC loves this stuff, a minuscule part of modern life blown completely out of proportion. Divide and conquer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 On 7/6/2024 at 3:43 PM, beyond our ken said: It's all about people who think there is a threat to their lifestyle from just about anyone who doesn't look like them or demonstrate the same inability to mangle their vowels. 43 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: discussing and explaining is not the same as judging. It sure looks like judging to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 1 minute ago, Hunterian said: BBC loves this stuff, a minuscule part of modern life blown completely out of proportion. Divide and conquer. Careful or you will be up for a hate crime with comments like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterian Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Careful or you will be up for a hate crime with comments like that. Oops, time to go into hiding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hunterian said: Oops, time to go into hiding! This guy can keep an eye out for you 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 12 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: It sure looks like judging to me! As you said, you are touchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 53 minutes ago, Hunterian said: I agree with this. I am afraid Clacton and their ilk have a real issue with immigration and see it as the cause of all ills. Singling out a colour or creed like this is lazy. Immigration numbers are a real issue but tackling that influx isn’t a panacea. I think as with FDR’s move post war we need major infrastructure programs such as pot hole fixing, Hospital building and a proper care package for aged sufferers of dementia etc. It won’t have escaped the readers of B&W Army that many creeds and colours work in Hospitals from many places. Will the good people of Clacton be looking for a whitey to care for them? Ive said this before. Farage is a divisive character, a reactionary. What did the people of South Thanet see in him that they knocked him back as an MP on multiple occasions? He’s no lover of Scotland either, an English Nationalist who thinks that there should be a utopian England that didn’t and will never exist. he doesn't really believe in anything, he just follows a thread of opinion and brays like a donkey about it. For some reason it is popular in some areas. The purpose of Farage is to tear things down with no real alternative to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterian Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 31 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: he doesn't really believe in anything, he just follows a thread of opinion and brays like a donkey about it. For some reason it is popular in some areas. The purpose of Farage is to tear things down with no real alternative to offer. He has that in common with BOJO, stands for nothing except the zeitgeist. Another opportunist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterian Posted July 8, 2024 Report Share Posted July 8, 2024 42 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: This guy can keep an eye out for you 😅 Yeah, speaks out and is attacked for it. A religion that can’t take criticism is a cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stlucifer Posted July 30, 2024 Report Share Posted July 30, 2024 It occurred to me that, when the new chancellor stood up in the house of commons and announced she was surprised that they find a 22 billion pound black hole in the government finances, I recalled John Swinney saying during the election that the labour party were hiding the fact that there would be an 18 billion pound black hole in the finances. Hmmmmmm. What did the SNP know that the labour party didn't. Or is it a case of the SNP telling the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted July 30, 2024 Report Share Posted July 30, 2024 (edited) Video | Facebook Edited July 30, 2024 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted July 30, 2024 Report Share Posted July 30, 2024 Is it just me or has the term cost of living crisis disappeared from news reports since Labour got in ? anyway it doesn’t matter because Labour are hell bent on bringing you “New cost of living crisis “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 Yeah, treat prisoners better than the elderly. Oh, the & 2000 figure is WAY out of date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: Yeah, treat prisoners better than the elderly. Oh, the & 2000 figure is WAY out of date. So the prison is just a building, without costly things like security, video surveillance, scores of employees, supervised visiting rooms, constant searches of people & premises. Yes it does cost a lot to house a prisoner and I think you will find their sustenance costs are a few pounds a day. Most of the cost is actually keeping them in prison and fulfilling legal obligations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 24 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: So the prison is just a building, without costly things like security, video surveillance, scores of employees, supervised visiting rooms, constant searches of people & premises. Yes it does cost a lot to house a prisoner and I think you will find their sustenance costs are a few pounds a day. Most of the cost is actually keeping them in prison and fulfilling legal obligations You've missed the point. 1No mention of the elderly? Joe Public, after working/saving for years is FORCED to pay for care, having their savings taken before being FORCED to sell their property. Oh, aye any fool knows prisons cost a fortune to run. Do prisoners deserve many of the luxurious, not IMO. Why should prisoners not pay for their keep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 42 minutes ago, faraway saint said: You've missed the point. 1No mention of the elderly? Joe Public, after working/saving for years is FORCED to pay for care, having their savings taken before being FORCED to sell their property. Oh, aye any fool knows prisons cost a fortune to run. Do prisoners deserve many of the luxurious, not IMO. Why should prisoners not pay for their keep? Solution: When you get to that stage, murder someone. I've been asking that question for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 15 minutes ago, Slarti said: Solution: When you get to that stage, murder someone. I've been asking that question for years. It would certainly protect your savings and assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 9 minutes ago, faraway saint said: It would certainly protect your savings and assets. Unless you're the one being murdered, then they just get hit with inheritance tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, Slarti said: Unless you're the one being murdered, then they just get hit with inheritance tax. That's an unfortunate side effect. Maybe not murder, just another crime that would get you enough of a sentence to see out the rest of your days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted August 21, 2024 Report Share Posted August 21, 2024 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: You've missed the point. 1No mention of the elderly? Joe Public, after working/saving for years is FORCED to pay for care, having their savings taken before being FORCED to sell their property. Oh, aye any fool knows prisons cost a fortune to run. Do prisoners deserve many of the luxurious, not IMO. Why should prisoners not pay for their keep? Without realising, you are undermining the message about the elderly by citing a completely skewed viewpoint. I haven't been in any prisons and don't really know if they are luxurious or not. I know I could probably google a few reports within minutes, some would support the notion of luxury and others would argue dehumanizing degradation that adds to the cycle of offence and re-offence. But how would prisoners pay for their keep? They couldn't earn the money while inside and the authorities have problems seizing the proceeds of crime. It's pretty uncomfortable, but I am prepared for the fact that I will lose some of my assets if I end up in care. It's one of the reasons why I have chosen to carry on working after state pension age as I am able to set aside a reasonable inheritance for my children and grandchildren as well. I realise that not all are as fortunate as I am If we had a stronger and larger working age population then the working people, as you and I have done, would pay for the care of the elderly without troubling pensions and savings 1 hour ago, Slarti said: Unless you're the one being murdered, then they just get hit with inheritance tax. They can't tax you for dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 22, 2024 Report Share Posted August 22, 2024 20 hours ago, beyond our ken said: Without realising, you are undermining the message about the elderly by citing a completely skewed viewpoint. I haven't been in any prisons and don't really know if they are luxurious or not. I know I could probably google a few reports within minutes, some would support the notion of luxury and others would argue dehumanizing degradation that adds to the cycle of offence and re-offence. But how would prisoners pay for their keep? They couldn't earn the money while inside and the authorities have problems seizing the proceeds of crime. It's pretty uncomfortable, but I am prepared for the fact that I will lose some of my assets if I end up in care. It's one of the reasons why I have chosen to carry on working after state pension age as I am able to set aside a reasonable inheritance for my children and grandchildren as well. I realise that not all are as fortunate as I am If we had a stronger and larger working age population then the working people, as you and I have done, would pay for the care of the elderly without troubling pensions and savings They can't tax you for dying. Ok, the point about luxuries, my mistake, not luxurious, which I mean free heating, food, more and more everyday items to make their stay more comfortable. The point on prisoners paying for their keep, this is common in the USA but it seems to be insurmountable in the UK. It can lead to debts that these criminals struggle to pay but I'm afraid I'll leave my sympathy for people that deserve it. Also if the UK there are problems seizing the proceeds of crime it seems to be very easy to seize the savings and property of the elderly. My main point is the imbalance between looking after criminals and the elderly. Trying to leave a reasonable inheritance for family can be very difficult IF you need to go into care which is free to other individuals who have no savings or property. I agree 100% it's uncomfortable and THIS is a good point...............If we had a stronger and larger working age population then the working people, as you and I have done, would pay for the care of the elderly without troubling pensions and savings See this article............https://lottie.org/care-guides/which-country-has-the-best-elderly-care/ I hope that neither myself or my wife, HAVE to go into care and can just pass away peacefully and leave our hard earned savings and property for our family. Thanks for the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 22, 2024 Report Share Posted August 22, 2024 (edited) This surprised me, @beyond our ken, I would have guessed considerably more although the move towards home care could be a factor. Maybe a better chance of my savings and property being stolen less is than I thought. This means that the proportion of the older population residing in care homes has decreased over time, from 3.2% of the 65 years and over usual resident population in 2011 to 2.5% in 2021. Edited August 22, 2024 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 1, 2024 Report Share Posted September 1, 2024 (edited) Daily Express headline: "Humiliation for SNP as police launch another investigation after Nicola Sturgeon arrest" The actual story? Nothing to do with the SNP The new investigation, dubbed Operation Broadcroft, centres on the handling of sexual misconduct allegations against Alex Salmond, the former First Minister and SNP leader. This probe is particularly focused on whether a senior civil servant, James Hynd, provided false testimony under oath during an inquiry into the allegations against Salmond, a Court of Session hearing heard earlier this week This is how badly the unionist press want to discredit and criminate the SNP. Even after their troubled election result it seems the establishment are still running "feart" of the independence movement. Edited September 1, 2024 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted September 3, 2024 Report Share Posted September 3, 2024 On 8/21/2024 at 1:39 PM, beyond our ken said: They can't tax you for dying. That's why I said "you're" dying and "they" get hit with inheritance tax. Besides that, I wouldn't put it past the government to try and tax you for dying - it's the one thing they can be sure of you doing so they could tax you early. Mibbe I should stop giving them ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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