Paisley brazilians Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Yes a sell on fee that is cemented into the contract are you sure about future transfer I thought Southampton still get money if bale moves on. Edited January 20, 2017 by Paisley brazilians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 No........I think the OP was trying to infer that we have a clause "forcing" his new club to sell at an agreed value (release clause) and thus bringing in a sell on % but somehow putting it in the contract we have with the player before we even sell him, Probably in a Tevez type way!! Ah, I see. No chance there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Yes a sell on fee that is cemented into the contract are you sure about future transfer I thought Southampton still get money if bale moves on. They won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Yes a sell on fee that is cemented into the contract are you sure about future transfer I thought Southampton still get money if bale moves on. In fact, Southampton sold their sell on clause for £3 million when they were in financial trouble in 2008... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley brazilians Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 So does that mean there is such a clause that you will benefit from future transfer or is it just the sell on clause for Tottenham that was sold as Tottenham would have access to sell image rights aswell.Southampton done them selves there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew87 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Which players did the previous BoD "let go for well under market price"? Agreed. Think the issue isn't we've let good players go for peanuts but that we haven't had players worth lots of money. How many that have left us in recent years have gone on to better things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 hour ago, East Lothian Saint said: Well are you going to tell us? You don't expect us to count them!!!! Hunners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley brazilians Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Loads of players have left over the years and we could have benefitted more from their departure or kept them longer and made them assets. players like lappin higgdon mehmet dorman broadfoot Mcgregor maginn McLean moy mahrez...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 So does that mean there is such a clause that you will benefit from future transfer or is it just the sell on clause for Tottenham that was sold as Tottenham would have access to sell image rights aswell.Southampton done them selves there. There is no clause that would get you a percentage of anything other than a transfer from the club you sell to.Southampton sold the right to the sell on as they were skint. Couldn't afford to wait another 4/5 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdowell76 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Paisley brazilians said: Loads of players have left over the years and we could have benefitted more from their departure or kept them longer and made them assets. players like lappin higgdon mehmet dorman broadfoot Mcgregor maginn McLean moy mahrez...... Virtually all these players were out of contract or about to run out of their contract. No club has ever received any transfer fee for these players other than St. Mirren (leaving Mahrez out of it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svard svard Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Edited January 20, 2017 by Svard svard Doubler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svard svard Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Although short term it's not good losing the good young players but at least finally it's good to see the youth academy bearing fruit.. Funny that since Longwell has left we have got a few players that look like they might get us some money. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Svard svard said: Although short term it's not good losing the good young players but at least finally it's good to see the youth academy bearing fruit.. Funny that since Longwell has left we have got a few players that look like they might get us some money. Coincidence? Players that he coached for a number of years. Yeah, it's a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy87 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 What do you mean coincidence. These are all players that wouldn't be where they are today if it wasn't for Davie Longwell.do your research and look how Long we had these players under Davie. If it wasn't for Davie persuading all the parents that their sons future was with us and not the old firm academy's. we would have lost all these players a long time ago. We owe a huge debt to Davie Longwell. And a lot of people at the club and supporters are quick to forget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svard svard Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Soctty said: Players that he coached for a number of years. Yeah, it's a coincidence. One way of looking at it. But what about the many years previous to that we only managed to get money for McGinn and McLean. McMannus might be preparing them for the step up a bit better?? I wasn't slagging Longwell off was just wondering if he was missing that wee bit to help them step up. He was an excellent servant to the club. i probably didn't elaborate enough.. Edited January 20, 2017 by Svard svard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Just now, Svard svard said: One way of looking at it. But what about the many years previous to that we only managed to get money for McGinn and McLean. McMannus might be preparing them for the step up a bit better?? Unless McManus is marketing the players, hawking them out to clubs and negotiating any deals, it's coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, Svard svard said: Although short term it's not good losing the good young players but at least finally it's good to see the youth academy bearing fruit.. Funny that since Longwell has left we have got a few players that look like they might get us some money. Coincidence? Probably the most ill thought out comment I've read on here for a while . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Svard svard said: One way of looking at it. But what about the many years previous to that we only managed to get money for McGinn and McLean. McMannus might be preparing them for the step up a bit better?? I wasn't slagging Longwell off was just wondering if he was missing that wee bit to help them step up. He was an excellent servant to the club. i probably didn't elaborate enough.. Did McManus help Mallan make the step up? Nope - that was Longwell. So your entire theory is based on Kyle McAllister. He hasn't left, so we don't know how much he'll go for, but when he does, it will be down to his talent, and being given his chance in the first team, something we as a club have a history of giving young players. Respect your opinion, just curious as to what it's based on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svard svard Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Soctty said: Did McManus help Mallan make the step up? Nope - that was Longwell. So your entire theory is based on Kyle McAllister. He hasn't left, so we don't know how much he'll go for, but when he does, it will be down to his talent, and being given his chance in the first team, something we as a club have a history of giving young players. Respect your opinion, just curious as to what it's based on... I suppose i was more trying to gauge an opinion on this supposed scouting as we probably haven't had this much interest in a few of our young players since the Gillies era who was touted for Meelan by Fitzy. As i said a poorly constructed question guilty as charged ma hands are up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I suppose i was more trying to gauge an opinion on this supposed scouting as we probably haven't had this much interest in a few of our young players since the Gillies era who was touted for Meelan by Fitzy. As i said a poorly constructed question guilty as charged ma hands are up.. The other variable in all of this is a change at boardroom level, which is probably more likely to be relevant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Paisley brazilians said: As the previous BOD probably would have caved in. its testing times for jack and the club. On the same day the club also announced that it had rejected a bid from Fleetwood Town for young midfielder, Kenny McLean. The bid of approximately £150,000 was deemed to low, with the club stating "the offer does not come close to the club's valuation of the player" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Yes 150k too low yet mcinnes said last week in an interview in sunsport the only money he's paid was 175k for kenny. Absolutely shocking. Gilmour was good at the start but his penny pinching has shafted us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Svard svard said: One way of looking at it. But what about the many years previous to that we only managed to get money for McGinn and McLean. McMannus might be preparing them for the step up a bit better?? I wasn't slagging Longwell off was just wondering if he was missing that wee bit to help them step up. He was an excellent servant to the club. i probably didn't elaborate enough.. Did we not get money for Stephen McGinn, Kenny McLean and John McGinn? Mallan, McAllister, Morgan, Magennis, and Naismith all came through the ranks with Longwell... McAllister was given his debut aged 16 by Alex Rae last season I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Of course Kenny McLean could have left for nothing in the summer before he went to Aberdeen. It's thanks to the BOD that we got some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 As far as I know a contract can contain anything within reason as long as both parties agree. A sell on clause could be included, as could a minimum fee to trigger release. The only outcome would be that a club looking to buy the player might ask to buy out that part for an added sum or walk away because they don't like the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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