shull Posted December 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 I'm a big fan of Douglas Murray. However, the old adage 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter' comes to mind. Michael Collins was considered a terrorist, as was Nelson Mandela. In that respect I can sympathise with the two Muslim gentlemen who feel that the West is hypocritical in considering Hamas to be terrorists for allegedly killing ~1,200 people whereas Israel has killed multiple times that number and is not condemned. I will add that I am not a fan of Hamas or Islam, but I can see their point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, W6er said: I'm a big fan of Douglas Murray. However, the old adage 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter' comes to mind. Michael Collins was considered a terrorist, as was Nelson Mandela. In that respect I can sympathise with the two Muslim gentlemen who feel that the West is hypocritical in considering Hamas to be terrorists for allegedly killing ~1,200 people whereas Israel has killed multiple times that number and is not condemned. I will add that I am not a fan of Hamas or Islam, but I can see their point. I have not watched the video yet for context, so don’t judge me too harshly, however it appears in your text above that you don’t believe 1200 people were murdered on 7/10 ( the use of the word allegedly) ??? I don’t believe the west or Israel is hypocritical in thinking that Hamas are terrorists, as you can see from a section of the very lengthy table below, they have been more than happy to claim responsibility for terrorist attacks in the past and present. As for the argument around civilian deaths, again if Hamas are removed from Gaza the will not be able to use civilians as human shields in the future. I am all for a Free Palestine ……from Hamas. Edited December 14, 2023 by ALBIONSAINT Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: I have not watched the video yet for context, so don’t judge me too harshly, however it appears in your text above that you don’t believe 1200 people were murdered on 7/10 ( the use of the word allegedly) ??? I don’t believe the west or Israel is hypocritical in thinking that Hamas are terrorists, as you can see from a section of the very lengthy table below, they have been more than happy to claim responsibility for terrorist attacks in the past and present. As for the argument around civilian deaths, again if Hamas are removed from Gaza the will not be able to use civilians as human shields in the future. I am all for a Free Palestine ……from Hamas. The reason why there is a 'Hamas' is because Israel has killed thousands more long before October 7 and denied the Palestinians their humanity. Want to get rid of Hamas? Then give the Palestinians their freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Jockmd said: The reason why there is a 'Hamas' is because Israel has killed thousands more long before October 7 and denied the Palestinians their humanity. Want to get rid of Hamas? Then give the Palestinians their freedom. No it’s not. Hamas and all the other jihad terrorist groups are all funded by Iran who want Israel and Jews destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 No it’s not. Hamas and all the other jihad terrorist groups are all funded by Iran who want Israel and Jews destroyed. I think we should just blow up the whole world so nature can eventually reclaim it. Humans really are a plague on the planet, couldnae agree oan the colour o' shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Helmettroll Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 8 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: No it’s not. Hamas and all the other jihad terrorist groups are all funded by Iran who want Israel and Jews destroyed. What a load of garbage...😂, tell that to the Libyans and Syrians.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Helmettroll said: What a load of garbage...😂, tell that to the Libyans and Syrians.. Lucky for us that the USA, U.K. and most western governments have known Iran is funding Hamas and are not calling for a ceasefire 👍🏻 free Palestine of Hamas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Slarti said: 9 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: No it’s not. Hamas and all the other jihad terrorist groups are all funded by Iran who want Israel and Jews destroyed. I think we should just blow up the whole world so nature can eventually reclaim it. Humans really are a plague on the planet, couldnae agree oan the colour o' shite. Adam couldn’t resist that apple 🍏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmettroll Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Lucky for us that the USA, U.K. and most western governments have known Iran is funding Hamas and are not calling for a ceasefire 👍🏻 free Palestine of Hamas. Maybe your enjoying seeing all the dead weans being pulled from under the rubble or the lucky ones who've only lost the one limb, USA..😂.. do a bit of research mate, there the biggest terrorists and funder of terror since WW11.. but I'm sure you knew this.. People should just accept when they've been kicked off there land, brutalised and oppressed by an apartied state, is that your way of thinking... Give yerself a shake man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, Helmettroll said: Maybe your enjoying seeing all the dead weans being pulled from under the rubble or the lucky ones who've only lost the one limb, USA..😂.. do a bit of research mate, there the biggest terrorists and funder of terror since WW11.. but I'm sure you knew this.. People should just accept when they've been kicked off there land, brutalised and oppressed by an apartied state, is that your way of thinking... Give yerself a shake man. You missing the Labour Party conference? Corbyn is gone and ain’t coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 19 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: You missing the Labour Party conference? Corbyn is gone and ain’t coming back. More's the pity. One of the few honest politicians who DID actually want to help the working man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, stlucifer said: More's the pity. One of the few honest politicians who DID actually want to help the working man. So honest 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 So honest [emoji28]What isn't honest about what he said? He says he has no recollection of the guy, even after being told he had met him. Have you never forgotten that you've met someone? Would it make you dishonest if you claimed you didn't know them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) On 12/15/2023 at 8:30 AM, ALBIONSAINT said: No it’s not. Hamas and all the other jihad terrorist groups are all funded by Iran who want Israel and Jews destroyed. With Israel ignoring international humanitarian law by killing thousands of Palestinians, who funds them? The USA. I have a question for you, why did Hezbollah come about? Look forward to your answer. Edited December 16, 2023 by Jockmd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Slarti said: 11 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: So honest What isn't honest about what he said? He says he has no recollection of the guy, even after being told he had met him. Have you never forgotten that you've met someone? Would it make you dishonest if you claimed you didn't know them? Difficult to engage with someone who drops in vague, reliably incorrect chunks of text from unverified sources. I’ve chosen to disengage… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 9 hours ago, antrin said: Difficult to engage with someone who drops in vague, reliably incorrect chunks of text from unverified sources. I’ve chosen to disengage… Your summary of the Guardian is a bit harsh, I know it’s a dog whistle for the loony left but it does still have some integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 4 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Your summary of the Guardian is a bit harsh, I know it’s a dog whistle for the loony left but it does still have some integrity. You've already had this answered but you seem to think you're a dog with a bone that you refuse to let go. Corbyn explained in the article that he still didn't recognise the name but that his "people£ informed him that he had actually met him in the distant pass. HELL. I may have met you at some point but I've no reason to remember you. Where in the universe does this constitute a lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jockmd Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 5:37 PM, shull said: Shull, have you changed your mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 I did earlier. I had the Brussel sprouts when I vowed that I wouldn't. I ate nine in a row. Lovely grub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stlucifer Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 And so 2023 ends. (For Saints, on a happy note too). HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL ON THE FORUM. AND I DO MEAN ALL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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