Mill St/Glasgow Rd Junction Is Changing

[HSS]

https://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/article/13651/Paisley-town-centre-junction-improvements

[Albanian Buddy]

11 minutes ago, HSS said:

https://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/article/13651/Paisley-town-centre-junction-improvements

This is an interesting development.

Not sure how the introduction of a dedicated left turn at that Incle St - Glasgow road junction will improve traffic flow, but I assume the traffic planning department know what they are doing.

Perhaps we need to attach ourselves together on the statue of St Mirin! 😂 

Appreciate the information HSS.

[Slarti]

Sounds a bit mental.  No left turn from Glasgow Road into Mill Street?  That's just going to cause issues in Cotton Street with much more traffic going along there - especially tailbacks from the Bridge Street/Mill Street junction.  Unless there are plans to change the phasing of the lights there - at the moment only 4/5 cars get through (from each lane) - but that will just cause tailbacks on the other streets at that junction as they will have to wait longer.

 

I suppose it's just going to be another f**kup we'll have to get used to - like the one-way system.

[Cookie Monster]

This is an interesting development.
Not sure how the introduction of a dedicated left turn at that Incle St - Glasgow road junction will improve traffic flow, but I assume the traffic planning department know what they are doing.
Perhaps we need to attach ourselves together on the statue of St Mirin! [emoji23] 
Appreciate the information HSS.

Looks like it's more to help pedestrians that are crossing the glasgow road slip outside the cathedral. Currently it's a guessing game if they are going to glasgow road or mill street.

[Slarti]

2 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

1 hour ago, Albanian Buddy said:

This is an interesting development.
Not sure how the introduction of a dedicated left turn at that Incle St - Glasgow road junction will improve traffic flow, but I assume the traffic planning department know what they are doing.
Perhaps we need to attach ourselves together on the statue of St Mirin!  
Appreciate the information HSS.

Looks like it's more to help pedestrians that are crossing the glasgow road slip outside the cathedral. Currently it's a guessing game if they are going to glasgow road or mill street.

They could just have stuck a light controlled pedestrian crossing there.

[Cookie Monster]

Sounds a bit mental.  No left turn from Glasgow Road into Mill Street?  That's just going to cause issues in Cotton Street with much more traffic going along there - especially tailbacks from the Bridge Street/Mill Street junction.  Unless there are plans to change the phasing of the lights there - at the moment only 4/5 cars get through (from each lane) - but that will just cause tailbacks on the other streets at that junction as they will have to wait longer.
 
I suppose it's just going to be another f**kup we'll have to get used to - like the one-way system.

Depending on the traffic lights sequencing at Mill/Gordon/Bridge/Lonend junction, I can see Hawkhead and Kilnside roads getting used more to go onto Seedhill Road to get to Mill Street.

[Slarti]

33 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

39 minutes ago, Slarti said:

Sounds a bit mental.  No left turn from Glasgow Road into Mill Street?  That's just going to cause issues in Cotton Street with much more traffic going along there - especially tailbacks from the Bridge Street/Mill Street junction.  Unless there are plans to change the phasing of the lights there - at the moment only 4/5 cars get through (from each lane) - but that will just cause tailbacks on the other streets at that junction as they will have to wait longer.
 
I suppose it's just going to be another f**kup we'll have to get used to - like the one-way system.

Depending on the traffic lights sequencing at Mill/Gordon/Bridge/Lonend junction, I can see Hawkhead and Kilnside roads getting used more to go onto Seedhill Road to get to Mill Street.

Possibly, but that will just cause more tailbacks from the Seedhill Road/Mill Street junction.

 

Maybe they've already considered all this and are planning on changing the phasing of the lights, but I doubt it.

[Callum Gilhooley]

Fannying about with something which doesn’t need fixed IMO 😡

I’d rather the money was spent fixing the potholes .😡

[Callum Gilhooley]

Dunno if I’ve  got this wrong.

The bit where it talks about the Lawn st / Gauze st/ Cotton st junction being replaced by a roundabout …… but they’re saying that the Abbey side of Cotton street Is to be closed off  ( Yellow ), so does that mean a mini roundabout at Lawn / Gauze street or some sort of massive construction to include the other side of carriageway in the red circle.

If not, are cars turning left out of lawn street on this new roundabout then having to turn right across traffic into the single carriageway Cotton street just 50-60 yards along Gauze street ? 

Edited November 30, 2023 by Callum Gilhooley

[HSS]

1 hour ago, Slarti said:

Sounds a bit mental.  No left turn from Glasgow Road into Mill Street?  

I’d imagine the inside lane will be the bus/taxi lane so no left turn across it?

[Slarti]

14 minutes ago, HSS said:

I’d imagine the inside lane will be the bus/taxi lane so no left turn across it?

Yeah, that's what it says, but my point was really about the knock-on effects of that.

[Cookie Monster]

Fannying about with something which doesn’t need fixed IMO [emoji35]
I’d rather the money was spent fixing the potholes .[emoji35]

Obviously never been held up here, can tail back from the Mill St/ Glasgow Road junction to Abercorn St and along most of Renfrew Road.

[Cookie Monster]

Dunno if I’ve  got this wrong.
The bit where it talks about the Lawn st / Gauze st/ Cotton st junction being replaced by a roundabout …… but they’re saying that the Abbey side of Cotton street Is to be closed off  ( Yellow ), so does that mean a mini roundabout at Lawn / Gauze street or some sort of massive construction to include the other side of carriageway in the red circle.
If not, are cars turning left out of lawn street on this new roundabout then having to turn right across traffic into the single carriageway Cotton street just 50-60 yards along Gauze street ? 

[Cookie Monster]

[Slarti]

42 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

So cars going from Cotton Street and turning right towards Glasgow Road now have to deal with a give way rather than having a set of lights.  Or they need to turn left and go right round the roundabout.  There's also going to be mayhem with cars trying to turn left into Cotton Street and buses going straight on from the bus lane to the roundabout. 

 

Pedestrian crossings, that are not part of an integrated traffic light system, immediately off of two of the exits from the roundabout are just going to cause tailbacks onto the roundabout.

 

I don't think this has really been thought through very well.

[Slarti]

1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Does that mean that you can't turn into Christie Street from Glasgow Road?  If so, and seeing that you won't be able to turn left into Mill Street, traffic coming from the east on Glasgow Road going to the Lagoon will have to go round Cotton Street to Mill Street and back along or down Kilnside to Seedhill to Mill Street (or maybe even round the one-way system and back - or Incle-Lawn-Silk-Gauze-Mill) which will result in more traffic turning right across Mill Street to the Lagoon, causing more tailbacks and potential accidents.

 

f**king mental.

[Callum Gilhooley]

1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Cheers CM 👍.  

looks like a dogs dinner 🤪

[Albanian Buddy]

So are we all agreed that the road planning department are not fit for purpose? 

Bring back the good auld days of trams, plenty of buses and being able to drive up the high street!

 

[Slarti]

So are we all agreed that the road planning department are not fit for purpose? 
Bring back the good auld days of trams, plenty of buses and being able to drive up the high street!
 

Aye, horse drawn trams - them were the days, at least that's what that auld fart Faraway tells me.

[faraway saint]

3 minutes ago, Slarti said:

Aye, horse drawn trams - them were the days, at least that's what that auld fart Faraway tells me.

Warch out, @BigYardsAndBasher (shull) and tantrum (antrin) will be after you for ageist shite.

As for me, I don't give a fcuk, everybody, if you're lucky, gets auld. 

[Slarti]

Warch out, [mention=17013]BigYardsAndBasher[/mention] (shull) and tantrum (antrin) will be after you for ageist shite.
As for me, I don't give a fcuk, everybody, if you're lucky, gets auld. 

That's what all the auld farts say. [emoji16]

[Albanian Buddy]

6 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Warch out, @BigYardsAndBasher (shull) and tantrum (antrin) will be after you for ageist shite.

Or the speeling (sic) polis!!! 👮‍♂️ 

[faraway saint]

10 minutes ago, Slarti said:

That's what all the auld farts say.

 

Only the ones that are still alive. 

[Slarti]

Only the ones that are still alive. 

Well the ones that urnae alive, urnae auld. They might huv bin auld, but urnae any mare.

[ALBIONSAINT]

9 hours ago, HSS said:

https://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/article/13651/Paisley-town-centre-junction-improvements