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You are a manager with a very limited budget, You already have a good right back in place around the same age, who has Premiership experience.
Nobody is going to tell me that this was a bad decision by Murray, IMHO he did exactly the right thing.
This was unfortunate for Rooney who if we had not had Naismith would have been signed, of that I have no doubt.
Circumstances have gone against us recently with Naismiths injury but hindsight is a wonderful thing and as the club and manager have already stated cover for positions will be mainly provided by u-20s coming through.

To be fair, if not for the fact that giving you a slap would likely lead to loss of liberty and/or gainful employment I'm almost tempted to put a ginger wig on and step in for Poz if I thought it would put an end to the endless stream of point scoring shit that fills each and every thread.
I work for a living and then have some semblance of a social life outside of work so when I find 5 minutes to look through the forum I want to find out any new Saints news or stories and perhaps engage in a bit of debate about others opinions of the team performance, tactics etc. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but as soon as I see you joining a thread I know it's going to generate into the sort of tedious shite I don't have time to filter through to get to anything interesting.
To be fair, you are not always the instigator but you have made a rod for your own back with your behaviour and that of your alias so how about just giving it a f**king rest?

Agnew was getting abuse on sat and he was arguably our best player. He's scored 3 peaches in 2 games and our support still aren't happy!

Murray is just in the bloody door.
He sees potential in the Baird and Kelly partnership... but needs time to coach them and get the best out of them.
I for one am prepared to give him time and in doing so, support our yoing players in their development and through the errors they will no doubt make.
Isn't that what any "supporter" should do?

Thought Baird and Kelly did fine. Baird in particular was impressive. We struggled down the flanks though. Conlan's struggling and Naismith bombs forward too much and struggles to recover.
Fck knows what the answer is though.

I'm genuinely staggered by the Goodwin love-in on here.
He was terrible last season. Much of the time he looked lost, was frequently out of position, got roasted by even moderately paced players, and don't get me started on his aimlessly lofted balls to no-one in particular.
Goodwin's time has come and gone. He is not the answer. We need a tenacious Alex Neil type player. A bit of grit, but the composure to match it.

Sorry to say I am about to log out for the last time. It is amazing how many on here have nothing to do but post nonsense all day every day. Would be bearable if coherent, relevant contributions were included, but too many self serving clowns for me. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

I wish to f**k I would stop opening this thread in the preposterous and naive hope that it might contain something resembling an update on what might or might not be happening with this lad.

The Frew play their 1st game at the new ground tomorrow.Anybuddie at a loose end with us not playing should pop along.

We'll never know that. He could have been a perennial pine-rider at a bigger club who would loan him constantly to the likes of Alloa or Cowdenbeath. He could have been anything. He could have been this that or the other at another unknown club.
What isn't in doubt is that St Mirren developed him from the age of 13, gave him excellent training and development facilities, gave him first team football in a top flight side, and helped give him silverware to look back on in his old age.
I wish him no ill. I do believe he's a daft laddie who should be given a slap any time he fannies about on 'social media', but he owes St Mirren a lot.
He's gone. We are at the start of a completely new era, perhaps even Gordon Scott / SMiSA / fan ownership.
John McGinn? No offence son, hope we pump your new club fcuking rotten, and in a Hibs shirt against St Mirren, you put in performances so rank rotten that Stephane Bahoken, James Marwood and Callum Ball are made to look like Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and, erm, Gareth Wardlaw.
Games against us aside - whatever... Couldn't really give a fcuk to be honest.

This is very unfair to him. I can't remember the specifics, but last season there was a save at his front post that he did fantastically to get down to. There was another strike from the edge of the box that he managed to make a great save low at his left post. He certainly does have faults; his command of his area is virtually nonexistent and his kicking is erratic, of example. However, "poor all round" is pretty untrue.

Decent but struggles with low shots across him. I wouldn't bring him back

Hmmm... again. I have nothing against Samson, but we stand on the edge of a new era here with a fresh management duo, new signings, and a new challenge in a new division. Langfield's 'Clangers' moniker is a bit unfair IMHO. Aye, he's made errors - so has Joe Hart, big ones too. Aberdeen fans turned on him a bit because he was perceived to be wanting a move to an OF club? Ian Ferguson certainly did...
Langfield is an experienced keeper who has played at a high level. I'd be happy that our 'fresh start St Mirren' was another step down the road with the dapper Mr Murray & Rascal Gear Spalding at the helm and an experienced man between the sticks also coaching our younger keepers.
Would be a fresh start for Langfield too. No baggage with us or our support. Just my opinion.

Was that the safe way to do it.

This is surely the proof that Rangers are indeed Pan Breed.

Kind of worries me you predict St Mirren will have a good season.

The Dons finally get the better of the Seagulls!!!

Just waiting on a couple of exclusives from love st and flareybob, then I'll check what elvis has said on the "things are looking bright" thread as well as Lord pity me's positive contribution to the "Ian Murray appreciation" thread then we'll be ready to go. cannae wait.

I quite like the idea of giving prospective loan signings a trial. Thinking back on the Bahokens of this world, it seems to make a great deal of sense to me.

Apparently Anderson has left after refusing to train with the development squad. The Finn is also away back home. The trialist from Forrest is going to play in Australia leaving the two Burnley lads Shaun Rooney and a new trialist from Swindon.

Big Shaun Rooney having some game time tonight. He's determined to impress along with the other 4 trialists.
He's loving his trial period at Ralston and can't speak highly enough of the training methods and coaching staff.

I don't agree, his relationship ended when he chose not to sign a new contract with us and packed his bags on and off the pitch. the training incident was unfotunate as john couldn't be in the shop window for the last few games.
he's gone under a cloud I won't miss his last seasons perfomances but I will miss the young player who outplayed most of scotlands top players on the way to winning the cup.

Bottom line.. is it wrong to maximise our income?
We are the bitches of tv.
I have said for years that we shouldn't be dependent on tv cash.
How the hell can I legitimately criticise us for seeking revenue elsewhere?

http://smisa.net/news-archive/180-smisa-statement-fan-ownership-gordon-scott
There have been some important developments of late which the committee of the trust are keen to share with members and the wider support.
Over the past few weeks we have been working with former St Mirren director Gordon Scott on plans to make a joint offer for the shares held by the selling consortium.
As part of our research into that we conducted a survey of fans, which had about 600 responses, and we would like to thank everybody who took the time to fill it out.
All in, 96% of fans backed the idea of fan ownership, and 94% backed the principle of a fan on the board, while 60% said they would be willing to make a financial contribution towards a scheme that would bring about either or both.
Those results have encouraged us to go public on plans which if realised could ensure St Mirren stays in the hands of the people who care about it most...you.
Members of the consortium have already indicated to the trust that they are happy to listen to what we put forward.
We would stress things are at an early stage and there is a lot of work to be done before we would be in a position to make a formal offer to them.
However we have the basis of a plan which - should an offer be accepted - would bring about meaningful fan representation over the short and medium term, and a transfer to majority fan ownership over the long term.
The model we are looking into is as follows:
- Gordon will put up most of the money, and SMiSA will fundraise the rest. The fundraising campaign will only start if we agree a deal in principle with the consortium;
- if a deal is done, Gordon would become the majority shareholder and chairman of the club;
- SMiSA would substantially increase its shareholding, and receive a place on the board, to be elected by the fans;
- Both parties would have an agreement that would see SMiSA continue to fundraise over several years to raise the cash to buy Gordons majority shareholding at some point in the future
The financial details are still to be decided but we envisage a £10-per-month membership scheme being the primary source of long-term ongoing funding, while other short-term income streams would be needed to fund the trusts contribution to the initial share purchase.
The trust has a five-figure sum of money in the bank as it stands, however we would only commit this towards an offer for the shares if a majority of members were happy for us to do so.
We see the benefits of the proposed model as being as follows:
- the current board deserves a tremendous amount of credit for the job they have done over the years, but they have made it clear they would like to move on. This would allow them to do so while keeping the club in the hands of St Mirren supporters;
- it would see control of St Mirren transfer to Gordon, a lifelong Saints fan with the business background and boardroom experience to take the club forward, while the fans would have a direct representative with influence over its day-to-day running;
- the previous attempt at fan ownership suffered because it had to find all the money at once; this would be different as Gordons presence means an Ann Budge model where we would have years to raise the funds to buy him out and put a viable fan ownership structure in place;
We are very keen to hear the thoughts of members and the wider support on these plans, and invite your feedback.
Although we believe SMiSA is best placed to be the vehicle through which this process should happen, ultimately it belongs to everybody who cares about St Mirren.
We have already begun the process of engaging with fan groups because we know what we are proposing will only work if the wider support is willing to back it.
As it stands, the SMiSA committee is a small group and we would welcome the input of any fans who feel they have the expertise and skills to help us take it forward.
As we say, things are at a very early stage and there are a lot of hurdles which would need to be cleared before any of this could become reality.
It wont happen overnight, but we will do our best to keep members and the wider support updated whenever there are developments to be shared.
However, we are excited by the possibilities of what this could mean for our club and hope you are too.
The SMiSA committee

Hearts were quick to break, while we endlessly passed the ball at the back, allowing opponents to regroup. I appreciate what you are saying, but I think it is more about how a manager sets his team up to play. Hearts came forward in waves, pulling defenders out of position and creating space.
I think too much focus on the pace of individual players is misplaced. For me, it is more about the pace of attacks - how quickly the ball is passed, and passing it in front of your team mates to run on to (something the likes of McGinn has to work on). Pass and move, and old clichés like that. I want to see a bit more urgency. Incisive, penetrating football.