woiiftm Posted July 18, 2017 Report Posted July 18, 2017 Club please take note. This was not a pleasant experience and I am not referring to our performance. Responses were made in reaction to foul language to no avail. Stewards on hearing foul language only looked in general direction, not able to identify specific culprits and not even moving from seat to signify it had been heard. We will lose children and their parents from games as parents will not tolerate this. Aggressive tone and manner of support made it very uncomfortable, particularly in West section, where we were well outnumbered and isolated amongst them as a result of free for all seating adopted by them. This may be ok against teams like Spartans whose fans number in 10's, here we are talking over 100 vociferous, reactive fans. My daughter even commented on how bad it was and that it felt threatening. No more mixing of fans, use North stand or we'll lose kids and parents What and Who matters most to this Club ? I've also put this on official site in hope that someone with clout might see it and ensure there is no repetition. Quote
Kemp Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 Was the stand completely mixed with no segregation? Quote
Drew Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) I asked to be moved before KO having bought a ticket in order to meet up with a mate. The steward I spoke to was very helpful, as was the supervisor who escorted us round to the West Stand. Seemingly, it was a cost saving exercise. Rather than tape off and steward a separate section, they opted to let away fans into any part of the stand. Daft idea, as the away fans don't know the etiquette of the Family Stand (let's face it, some home fans still struggle to grasp it). I simply didn't fancy it, and told the steward as much. Consider it a failed experiment, that certainly should not be repeated. Edited July 19, 2017 by Drew Quote
Drew Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 57 minutes ago, Kemp said: Was the stand completely mixed with no segregation? Aye. As I said above, an ill-judged, cost saving exercise. Quote
shull Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 We should give it another go with the Section B next week. Quote
Russian Saint Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 To be honest, I didn't notice any bad language from the Livi fans (I was sitting in normal seats next to the camera stand, main stand side)I do however regularly hear a few f**ks being fired by Saints fans at most matches, despite there being a lot of kids present. Quote
flyingscot Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 Family stand was an odd choice given away fans are most hardcore of a teams support. I know family stand for night games is usually quiet so I'm guessing they banked on that. Don't think the Livi fans liked it either. This shows the issue in not having a suitable section within home stands where we are able to section off small away supports rather than waste money opening stands. Sure the west stand has segregation but as the busiest home stand then makes the other facilities congested. Is there a section of the main stand we could have given Livi in and mixed facilities? M1? Quote
pozbaird Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, flyingscot said: Family stand was an odd choice given away fans are most hardcore of a teams support. I know family stand for night games is usually quiet so I'm guessing they banked on that. Don't think the Livi fans liked it either. This shows the issue in not having a suitable section within home stands where we are able to section off small away supports rather than waste money opening stands. Sure the west stand has segregation but as the busiest home stand then makes the other facilities congested. Is there a section of the main stand we could have given Livi in and mixed facilities? M1? I thought the main stand couldn't be split between home and away fans due to an inability to split toilet / catering facilities. Quote
notabuddie Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 The only stand that has segregation is the West. So unless the club open the away stand there will be a mix of fans either in the family stand or main stand. Quote
shull Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 The whole of the Away Stand doesn't need to be opened especially not for Livy, Airdrie United , Brechin or Dumbarton fans. Either End Section would be sufficient. With a couple of Stewards supervising. Quote
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 I think facilities for main stand are basically split left and right of the tunnel, so it would need to be half n half which would affect an awfy lot of season tickets Quote
pozbaird Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 Shame we hit the 1000 ST target. Damn that two-lavvy carrot. Quote
flyingscot Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, pozbaird said: I thought the main stand couldn't be split between home and away fans due to an inability to split toilet / catering facilities. No, but if we are going to sling 100 odd fans into a home stand, I'd have thought the main stand to the south would be the best section rather than the family stand. Just have to share pie stalls and toilets. 4 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Shame we hit the 1000 ST target. Damn that two-lavvy carrot. I wouldn't be surprised if it is segregated for Airdrie. Quote
Kemp Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 The Away Stand was still there last I checked. Surely doesn't cost a fortune to stick a few stewards on to look after 100 Livingston fans? Quote
pod Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 2 hours ago, shull said: We should give it another go with the Section B next week. A Quote
pod Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 49 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: I think facilities for main stand are basically split left and right of the tunnel, so it would need to be half n half which would affect an awfy lot of season tickets There's also families with kids using main stand. Quote
pod Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Just get them to stand in a corner between stands. Problem solved. Catering and toilets provided... Edited July 19, 2017 by pod Quote
shull Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, Kemp said: The Away Stand was still there last I checked. Surely doesn't cost a fortune to stick a few stewards on to look after 100 Livingston fans? That is a brilliant idea. Quote
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 The Away Stand was still there last I checked. Surely doesn't cost a fortune to stick a few stewards on to look after 100 Livingston fans? Blue sky thinking Quote
Tommy Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 1 hour ago, TPAFKATS said: I think facilities for main stand are basically split left and right of the tunnel, so it would need to be half n half which would affect an awfy lot of season tickets That is the case, and with the new disabled area in 1 side and hospitality in the other, away fans will never be in the main stand. Quote
pod Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Kemp said: The Away Stand was still there last I checked. Surely doesn't cost a fortune to stick a few stewards on to look after 100 Livingston fans? Catering, cleaning, electricity etc. Quote
Tommy Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 1 minute ago, pod said: Catering, cleaning, electricity etc. Won't cost that much and no need to provide food either Quote
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 19, 2017 Report Posted July 19, 2017 Won't cost that much and no need to provide food either Not sure if we pay any catering costs? Quote
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