Stubbs Sacked

[Richie P 121]

Sometimes it's just not a right fit. Even if it could have worked out / turned around. The last 18 months has had everyone pulling in the one direction. if the new manager cannot continue this ethos it could be that after a good interview and seeing him work it was clear that he never had the same personality to continue this togetherness. This could have been in the boards thoughts regardless of results, but the results have accelerated the decision.

[Sonny 8,786]

There was carnage behind the scenes which could not continue. Action has been taken so time to move on to hopefully a more positive time in the Premiership.

[oaksoft 13,067]

16 minutes ago, magnus said:

Disagree Oaksoft. This looks like a scout explaining the challenges in signing players at SMFC. It's an insight that might manage expectations.

It could literally be anyone using that account.

[magnus 2,658]

1 minute ago, Sonny said:

There was carnage behind the scenes which could not continue. Action has been taken so time to move on to hopefully a more positive time in the Premiership.

Sounds like it Sonny. It's like it's all done on a whim with nobody speaking to each other. 

[magnus 2,658]

Just now, oaksoft said:

It could literally be anyone using that account.

I think it's legit. I am not wiring over any money but I am asking a few questions and the answers sound informed. My view is that no-one speaks to the Scouts and maybe not even each other.

[oaksoft 13,067]

2 minutes ago, magnus said:

I think it's legit. I am not wiring over any money but I am asking a few questions and the answers sound informed. My view is that no-one speaks to the Scouts and maybe not even each other.

True

We haven't learned anything from him anyway. If he is genuine he isn't going to tell you the important stuff.

For example, if Stubbs wasn't involving him, why is he leaving within an hour of Stubbs being sacked?

Edited September 3, 2018 by oaksoft

[oaksoft 13,067]

28 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Everyone knows wbat a complete twat you are . You think you are above everyone mentally but we all know you lack basic common sense. That's ok we a ll have faults. Unfortunately you fail the basic requirements for students. Too judgmental a twat in their comfort zone. Wake up before you supriours bring you down to earth with a BANG ! 

What a f**king post.

Bud, when it comes to being mental, nobody is above you.

Have a nice night.

Edited September 3, 2018 by oaksoft

[magnus 2,658]

4 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

True

We haven't learned anything from him anyway. If he is genuine he isn't going to tell you the important stuff.

I think he said enough to point to a pretty dis-organised approach to scouting, poor communications and a lack of team spirit. One starts to get a sense all is not well across the board.

Edited September 3, 2018 by magnus

[oaksoft 13,067]

Just now, magnus said:

I think he said enough to point to a pretty dis-organised approach to scouting, poor communications and a lack of team spirit. one starts to get a sense all is not well across the board.

On the positive side, any problems have only come about recently and should be easily rectified by removing those at the heart of it.

[oaksoft 13,067]

29 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

IOBS u do know he is going to slaughter your English and punkuation 

No I won't - for two reasons:

1) There is so much wrong with this post of his and the thread he started that the spelling and grammar are the very least of his worries.

2) IOBS joins you in the "special" category. You are both at your funniest when you are trying to slap down a fellow poster but your brains can't keep up with your fingers.

PS. There is no 'k' in punctuation. Not even in the urban dictionary version of the word.

Edited September 3, 2018 by oaksoft

[Kemp 5,553]

48 minutes ago, davidg said:

I’m sorry but there’s no excuse for not giving 100% out on the pitch and that’s what we’ve been getting.

It doesn’t matter who the manager is, what the tactics are, who’s playing centre half, what one of your team mates have been dropped, who’s face doesn’t fit. No excuse for the level of commitment given so far this season. 

Saturday was much better from certain individuals and I suspect some players were already made aware of the intent to sack Stubbs. 

Just hope they approve of the replacement or we’re really f**ked. In fact, might be an idea to let them hand pick the new manager. 

Very simplistic point of view, I think you are just playing to the gallery here.

The organisation of the team has been very poor from the start, players have ;iterally been running in to each other, being caught out of position etc etc. Going in and dealing with Stubbs and Jackson every day obviously became demoralising.

There is a difference between being demoralised, losing confidence etc and purposefully not trying your best.

You don't appoint Darren Jackson and then expect to have a motivated squad.

[magnus 2,658]

5 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

On the positive side, any problems have only come about recently and should be easily rectified by removing those at the heart of it.

Why is that though? Did Jack and Jim have a structure in place that left when they left? Did Jack just fly solo and it worked great? If Alan Stubbs and his team are the problem then fine but if i was the new manager I think I would be asking a few questions about how the Club works day to day. 

Edited September 3, 2018 by magnus

[St.Ricky 8,253]

1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

On the positive side, any problems have only come about recently and should be easily rectified by removing those at the heart of it.

We have a misconception in this country that we can copy the success of others and learn from it. This may be true in part but learning from your mistakes and doing something about it to improve without looking back negatively is the real and lasting way to achieve success. Expect mistakes and learn from them. The board have acted. Time to move on.

[DougJamie 6,818]

1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

 

You are both at your funniest when you are trying to slap down a fellow poster but your brains can't keep up with your fingers.

 oh well just use an emoji then. 

[oaksoft 13,067]

1 minute ago, magnus said:

Why is that though? Did Jack and Jim have a structure in place that left when they left? Did Jack just fly solo and it worked great? If Alan Stubbs and his team are the problem then fine but if i was the new manager I think I would be asking a few questions about how the Club works day to day. 

Agreed. Me too.

[oaksoft 13,067]

Just now, DougJamie said:

 oh well just use an emoji then. 

I think that is safest.

[davidg 8,456]

5 minutes ago, Kemp said:

Very simplistic point of view, I think you are just playing to the gallery here.

The organisation of the team has been very poor from the start, players have ;iterally been running in to each other, being caught out of position etc etc. Going in and dealing with Stubbs and Jackson every day obviously became demoralising.

There is a difference between being demoralised, losing confidence etc and purposefully not trying your best.

You don't appoint Darren Jackson and then expect to have a motivated squad.

The poor souls.

I’m not pointing the finger at all of the players but certain ones clearly weren’t interested in playing for Stubbs and their performances reflected this.

Edited September 3, 2018 by davidg

[DougJamie 6,818]

Just now, oaksoft said:

I think that is safest.

Good. Cause its War and Peace on here tonight

[stlucifer 6,487]

1 hour ago, HSS said:

If they were involved in Stubbs player recruitment then thank f'ck for their resignation.

 

My first thoughts too. Perhaps jumping before they were pushed?

[Buddie Marvelous 919]

Jim McIntyre turned down Falkirk for a reason.  I’d be very surprised if he is not our new boss.

Oh! Skullduggery!

[Drew 21,116]

We might need to write this season off as a survival shitfest.

I imagine GLS has Gus MacPherson on speed-dial, and might just make a call....

Whoever comes in now will need to galvanise the squad first and foremost. Free flowing, creative football might be a secondary consideration (even if we had the players for that).

Fingers crossed.

[Buddie Marvelous 919]

Doesn't beat the Fergie one. 

Or the Ian Munro one. 🤪

[oaksoft 13,067]

6 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

Good. Cause its War and Peace on here tonight

Or as IOBS would no doubt call it, "Par and Weace".

Or "Waar and Peas".

Edited September 3, 2018 by oaksoft

[pozbaird 20,991]

1 minute ago, Kemp said:

Very simplistic point of view, I think you are just playing to the gallery here.

The organisation of the team has been very poor from the start, players have ;iterally been running in to each other, being caught out of position etc etc. Going in and dealing with Stubbs and Jackson every day obviously became demoralising.

There is a difference between being demoralised, losing confidence etc and purposefully not trying your best.

You don't appoint Darren Jackson and then expect to have a motivated squad.

Would disagree that the organisation of the team has been very poor from the start. I tuned into that Killie LC group game expecting something of a shambles, but the team were excellent, Coulson shone, we made chances, passed it around nicely, and were a coherent and good to watch team.

The fact that it went from that to a team who cannot score, and can be gubbed after 30 minutes in games is the worrying thing. Clearly, a lot of stuff went on behind the scenes that only Stubbs, the players, and possibly GLS truly know about.

Will be interesting to see how things go from here on in, and can that Rugby Park spirit, because it was indeed a spirited performance, be re-ignited under new management. I don’t wish Stubbs or Jackson any ill, but clearly, a lot was going badly wrong, and not simply results.

[davidg 8,456]

2 minutes ago, Drew said:

We might need to write this season off as a survival shitfest.

I imagine GLS has Gus MacPherson on speed-dial, and might just make a call....

Whoever comes in now will need to galvanise the squad first and foremost. Free flowing, creative football might be a secondary consideration (even if we had the players for that).

Fingers crossed.

Not the long term solution but I’d be confident of Premiership survival with Gus in the dugout til the end of the season.