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George Adam agrees to another meeting in four weeks time. Keen to “build trust again”.

Update from twitter
We’re still on, with a lot of JN listening to a lot of fans’ frustration.

Twitter is always good for St Mirren stuff, there always seems to be a surprising amount of buddies on Twitter 
The Facebook page is.... not for me....

George Adam agrees to another meeting in four weeks time. Keen to “build trust again”.

Update from twitter
We’re still on, with a lot of JN listening to a lot of fans’ frustration.

All updates in OP
Hoped that questions would be answered but if anything seems to have raised more questions.
Disappointed that Tony F and Jim Gillespie (or someone else from Kibble) didn’t show, was a great chance to get everything out. 
Hearing that the meeting is still going but mostly just shouting at the moment

All updates in OP
Hoped that questions would be answered but if anything seems to have raised more questions.
Disappointed that Tony F and Jim Gillespie (or someone else from Kibble) didn’t show, was a great chance to get everything out. 
Hearing that the meeting is still going but mostly just shouting at the moment

Excellent updates thank you

Questions avoided again, not answered

Vague at best , non descriptive politician style response

Things have definitely not improved, there is no doubt about that

Have none of the Kibble members of the board turned up , they are major players here and should be along to listen too and explain things to the majority shareholding you think?

SMISA Q&A 6/9/21
 
A welcome from George Adam, SMISA chairman. “Has there been some screw ups? Yes. No one can deny that” - a good admission in his opening statement before the floor gets opened up.
 
John Needham now speaking.
“I intend to be as open as I can be tonight”
 
“Kibble aren’t going to go away, they’ve paid for a stake in our club. They’re keen to make the relationship work… I can confirm we’ve got more out of the relationship than them so far”
 
Chairman @johnneedham1961: “we’ve had our greatest successes when all at the club pull together in the one direction”
 
The floor now being opened up.
 
Re: club’s poor recent communication
 
JN: communication not been proactive and comprehensive, we concede that; however, unreasonable to respond to everything on social media…
 
Re: seemingly dodgy contracts being given out to the same company
 
JN: Contracts have not been given out to the same company. Tony & club mgmt responsible for contracts. There has been due diligence done and a robust interview process.
 
Re: why stewarding company were changed
 
JN: The contract was up for renewal after three years. JN unsure whether previous stewarding company was invited to tender or not.
 
Re: Ticketing fiasco
 
JN: A lot of negative feedback on outdated ticketing system meant that renewal seemed a good option. New & old systems weren’t compatible, hence the registration and renewal issues. New system will have benefits moving forward, details on that in the future
 
Re: St. Mirren’s recent apparent mistreatment of long-term staff
 
JN: apologies on behalf of the club to a long-standing member of club staff who is in attendance.
 
GA: “we need to embrace fans’ anger, and get everything out there”
 
Re: No away fans against St. J
 
JN: Didn’t want to risk it with new stewarding company and ticketing system that day
 
Re: smoothing out club operations moving forward
 
JN: Club operations run by Tony. Kibble been great in mitigating issues including covid amongst staff etc. JN going to become more hands-on, meeting regularly with Tony.
 
Re: limited attendance at start of season
 
JN: health and safety issues main reason there was no further attendance increases… won’t admit what these health and safety issues were.
 
Re: Skyview
 
JN: Skyview changed their mind once strips were already ordered. Provan Sports been very good in printing over sponsor logos. Sponsors’ contracts will be robustly checked moving forward.
 
Re: buying out kibble in future
 
£400k… not something SMISA would think about just now, criticism of Kibble been apparently unfounded.
 
GA: developing a working relationship with Kibble has been different than expected due to pandemic
 
SLO’s have collated info to improve the match-day experience, especially around entering/leaving and the car park… this will be improved
 
Re: “give the kibble an inch, they’ll take a mile”
 
JN: the kibble don’t have a veto on any boardroom decisions; with two votes in a board of 8, they don’t have control of any big decisions.
 
Correction: Kibble do have a veto on decisions that are reserved shareholder matters, including who SMISA can add to board.
 
JN: what kibble want is for their young people to get work experience at the club… there will always be a kibble employee at the club, as they have a duty of care over these young people
 
JN: General manager coming from Kibble is free of charge, so a good deal for us.
 
On Old Firm Fans getting two stands:
 
JN: going to have a good look at it… ideally doesn’t want to have old firm fans in. However, the money made is ‘a big chunk of income’. The challenge is filling family stand with paying saints customers.
 
One fan: “We should be celebrating owning this club, but everyone here is embarrassed”

John Needham saying “the board don’t make day-to-day decisions in the club”… that’s Tony’s responsibility

…
 

Watch a fair bit of A league and he's a good player. Definitely more of a winger/wing back, gets forward often
Seems nailed on that we'll be playing 3 at the back with wing backs
Only thing that concerns me is that we'll have to commit to that formation and hope it works (& other teams will know that)

SMISA Q&A 6/9/21
 
A welcome from George Adam, SMISA chairman. “Has there been some screw ups? Yes. No one can deny that” - a good admission in his opening statement before the floor gets opened up.
 
John Needham now speaking.
“I intend to be as open as I can be tonight”
 
“Kibble aren’t going to go away, they’ve paid for a stake in our club. They’re keen to make the relationship work… I can confirm we’ve got more out of the relationship than them so far”
 
Chairman @johnneedham1961: “we’ve had our greatest successes when all at the club pull together in the one direction”
 
The floor now being opened up.
 
Re: club’s poor recent communication
 
JN: communication not been proactive and comprehensive, we concede that; however, unreasonable to respond to everything on social media…
 
Re: seemingly dodgy contracts being given out to the same company
 
JN: Contracts have not been given out to the same company. Tony & club mgmt responsible for contracts. There has been due diligence done and a robust interview process.
 
Re: why stewarding company were changed
 
JN: The contract was up for renewal after three years. JN unsure whether previous stewarding company was invited to tender or not.
 
Re: Ticketing fiasco
 
JN: A lot of negative feedback on outdated ticketing system meant that renewal seemed a good option. New & old systems weren’t compatible, hence the registration and renewal issues. New system will have benefits moving forward, details on that in the future
 
Re: St. Mirren’s recent apparent mistreatment of long-term staff
 
JN: apologies on behalf of the club to a long-standing member of club staff who is in attendance.
 
GA: “we need to embrace fans’ anger, and get everything out there”
 
Re: No away fans against St. J
 
JN: Didn’t want to risk it with new stewarding company and ticketing system that day
 
Re: smoothing out club operations moving forward
 
JN: Club operations run by Tony. Kibble been great in mitigating issues including covid amongst staff etc. JN going to become more hands-on, meeting regularly with Tony.
 
Re: limited attendance at start of season
 
JN: health and safety issues main reason there was no further attendance increases… won’t admit what these health and safety issues were.
 
Re: Skyview
 
JN: Skyview changed their mind once strips were already ordered. Provan Sports been very good in printing over sponsor logos. Sponsors’ contracts will be robustly checked moving forward.
 
Re: buying out kibble in future
 
£400k… not something SMISA would think about just now, criticism of Kibble been apparently unfounded.
 
GA: developing a working relationship with Kibble has been different than expected due to pandemic
 
SLO’s have collated info to improve the match-day experience, especially around entering/leaving and the car park… this will be improved
 
Re: “give the kibble an inch, they’ll take a mile”
 
JN: the kibble don’t have a veto on any boardroom decisions; with two votes in a board of 8, they don’t have control of any big decisions.
 
Correction: Kibble do have a veto on decisions that are reserved shareholder matters, including who SMISA can add to board.
 
JN: what kibble want is for their young people to get work experience at the club… there will always be a kibble employee at the club, as they have a duty of care over these young people
 
JN: General manager coming from Kibble is free of charge, so a good deal for us.
 
On Old Firm Fans getting two stands:
 
JN: going to have a good look at it… ideally doesn’t want to have old firm fans in. However, the money made is ‘a big chunk of income’. The challenge is filling family stand with paying saints customers.
 
One fan: “We should be celebrating owning this club, but everyone here is embarrassed”

John Needham saying “the board don’t make day-to-day decisions in the club”… that’s Tony’s responsibility

…
 

Twitter is always good for St Mirren stuff, there always seems to be a surprising amount of buddies on Twitter 
The Facebook page is.... not for me....

Watch a fair bit of A league and he's a good player. Definitely more of a winger/wing back, gets forward often
Seems nailed on that we'll be playing 3 at the back with wing backs
Only thing that concerns me is that we'll have to commit to that formation and hope it works (& other teams will know that)

Watch a fair bit of A league and he's a good player. Definitely more of a winger/wing back, gets forward often
Seems nailed on that we'll be playing 3 at the back with wing backs
Only thing that concerns me is that we'll have to commit to that formation and hope it works (& other teams will know that)

Watch a fair bit of A league and he's a good player. Definitely more of a winger/wing back, gets forward often
Seems nailed on that we'll be playing 3 at the back with wing backs
Only thing that concerns me is that we'll have to commit to that formation and hope it works (& other teams will know that)

Watch a fair bit of A league and he's a good player. Definitely more of a winger/wing back, gets forward often
Seems nailed on that we'll be playing 3 at the back with wing backs
Only thing that concerns me is that we'll have to commit to that formation and hope it works (& other teams will know that)

Went to the game the other night. Football was ok, Billy Gilmour is tremendous to watch. Didn't give anything away at the back but lacking a cutting edge going forward, not convinced on Dykes but should play a similar team against Austria 

Fingers crossed. 

Went to the game the other night. Football was ok, Billy Gilmour is tremendous to watch. Didn't give anything away at the back but lacking a cutting edge going forward, not convinced on Dykes but should play a similar team against Austria 

Fingers crossed. 

I agree that the cases are rising, outstripping the numbers back in the dark days but I still don't see anything to worry about in the numbers that really matter.
Same bracket as the flu. 

More the winter I'm concerned about

Is no one else getting worried that the vaccines don't seem to be stopping transmission? UK and Israel up there with the most vaccinated places on earth, but cases increasing rather than dropping - English schools going back won't help matters. 
Fingers crossed for a drop in cases before winter hits.
Also the drop off in antibodies for those vaccinated. The prediction earlier in the thread of boosters every 6 months isn't looking too far off. 
Interesting study done in Israel regarding natural immunity is worth a look
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections | medRxiv 

Oh deary deary me.
Masks and Nightclubs
So as long as you have a pint in your hand you will not be needing to wear a face mask in either pubs or nightclubs but it's too dangerous to go without one when picking up a pint of milk at Tesco. All this is according to a government spokesman as seen in that tweet.
I feel sorry for anyone (including some professional scientists) who genuinely believed masking was all about the science. You are going to feel a bit f**king daft after today, if you have any sort of self awareness or humility whatsoever.
Is anyone really going to mask up for milk knowing people can freely abandon those masks in virtually every other setting?
You have to admit. It's pretty hilarious how much of a knot Sturgeon has tied herself up in because of her undying obsession with appearing to care more than Boris.
A bit of advice Nicola. Go to the press tomorrow morning and announce that masking is highly recommended but no longer legally required. And never, EVER darken our doorsteps again with this nonsense ya big dafty.