Drew Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 ...and it wouldn't get any easier in season 2015/16 either. Say we go down then The Rangers and Hearts go up - and I think both of them would outspend us to ensure they did - then that means either The Rangers or Hearts won the playoff. This means The Rangers and Hearts would be replaced in the Championship the following season with two SPFL clubs from, oh let's say Partick, Ross C, Killie, Dundee/Falkirk, even Hibs or St Johnstone could have a honking season... Then we're still down, without The Rangers and Hearts, but maybe with clubs lead by millionaires willing to go into debt to go up again. All I can see is a five, seven, or goodness knows how long cycle of us being a mid-table Championship club, stuck in a two-up, two-down rut of clubs capable of beating us easily for the top two places due to millionaire owners going into debt to make sure their club goes back up, and the likes of us float around in fizzy pop semi-oblivion for donkeys years. Once a club like St Mirren, Kilmarnock or St Johnstone become top flight established clubs, their infrastructure is geared to retaining that status and seeing other clubs like your Dundees. Dunfermlines. Particks and Falkirks etc be the ones going up and down. In any league, there's a pack who can win it, a pack who vie for Europe, a pack who are stable most seasons, and a pack who battle relegation. We always manage to find ourselves floating into that relegation pack, but so far, by virtue of some admirable Custer's Last Stand wins (or a llama loving chain smoker's dream going tits-up), we've dodged the bullet. Failure to dodge the bullet will see us impotent and unable to reload our own pistol for a good while. Doesn't bear thinking about. Sure our board feel the same, how unsellable (for what they want) would their currently seemingly unsellable shares be in fizzy pop land? Hell, they might just lose whatever fight they have left, and sell us to the first 'Leeds United type dodgy convicted-for-fraud Italian' that swans down Greenhill Road reeking of Aramis and wearing a shiny grey Ralph Slater suit. Relegation. Just say no. Aye, but aside from that, relegation would be fine, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Aye, but aside from that, relegation would be fine, eh? Fcuking awesome. New Douglas Park in a January midweek - bring it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinbuddie Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Fcuking awesome. New Douglas Park in a January midweek - bring it on. I well remember our first game back in the 1st Division (in 1993?) after a good 15/16 years in the Premier League. Our team of stars swanning through to Stark's Park to start the fight back to where we belonged. After a 7-0 tanking, it was back to reality and a long, dismal stay in the 1st Division (and even that wasn't guaranteed in a few seasons). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Well all bout opinions we've won 8 games in almost a year! So can we really compete in top league the amount of pish DL spouts in today's evening times bout wanting a new deal he cannot be serious I'll not be back till he's gone time for change I'll be back whoever the manager is - I'm there to support the team, regardless of who the manager is. I supported us last year on 17th March with the current manager. I assume you gave that match a bodyswerve? Edited February 5, 2014 by Soctty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 If I were Danny, I'd want a new deal too and would be vocal about it. The guy is perfectly entitled to stand up for himself and look out for his mortgage getting paid next year - damn right he is. He'd stand a better chance of that happening mind you, if both he and our board performed a damn sight better in the transfer windows and weaned themselves off the loanee teat. Going into the season with two young kid loanee keepers, inadequate cover at CB, and shitting ourselves that Thommo' got injured was no way to run an SPFL side with any ambition whatsoever. As for Harkins, Grainger, Bahookey and Caprice? Ball's in your court Danny, you keep dropping the bloody thing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alba Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 In all my years of being a Saints fan I've went to every game expecting to be pumped. That's what makes winning all the more enjoyable. Compare what we had to watch in the First division: Bobby Dawson, Andy Dow, Bobby Law, Ricky Robb, Kevin Twaddle et al. Bit selective there though - what about Charlie Adam, Ludo Roy, Yards, Basher, Ricky Gillies, Junior Mendes et al. Although not for one moment agreeing with the OP who is clearly on some good gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergie's no1 fan Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 So every year finishing one place above relegation is good enough ?? Total lack of ambition when look at teams above us consistently are do they have better players? Or a better manager ? Also far as I know we've only 5 players signed up and could easily lose dazza McLean and gowser Teale may retire abd thomohawk can't go on forever after 4 year in job shouldn't be mass exodus every season and going down and rebuilding and actually winning games would get feel good factor only won 8 league games in 11 months is that good enough for me that should get alarm bells ringing So your unhappy with the total lack of ambition yet you wouldn't mind us being relegated . It would be a complete disaster. Even though the play offs are now included it would still take at least a couple of years to get back up. Look at Falkirk. They got this top 6 promised land bullshit in their heads and look what happened to them. Got rid of Hughes and then plummeted. Whilst things aren't perfect we have to remember the flip side.It could be a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towercrane bud Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Numpty !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ged62 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 If I were Danny, I'd want a new deal too and would be vocal about it. The guy is perfectly entitled to stand up for himself and look out for his mortgage getting paid next year - damn right he is. He'd stand a better chance of that happening mind you, if both he and our board performed a damn sight better in the transfer windows and weaned themselves off the loanee teat. Going into the season with two young kid loanee keepers, inadequate cover at CB, and shitting ourselves that Thommo' got injured was no way to run an SPFL side with any ambition whatsoever. As for Harkins, Grainger, Bahookey and Caprice? Ball's in your court Danny, you keep dropping the bloody thing though. And that's the reason its time for Danny to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert orchid Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm thinking if we go down might not be a bad thing new manager fresh ideas! Hopefully and enjoying going to see saints again potential derby back and full houses instead of same guff every season thinking 10th or 11th is good enough I for one don't think would be end of the world as far as I can work out only McGinn Kelly Naismith Wylde Reilly and Harkins if he comes back are only players tied up for next season another massive summer ahead! Thoughts?? You're off yer rocker. Any half decent player will jump ship, attendances will drop as will the budget. We would struggle to return straight away and the longer we fail to bounce back the harder it will be. As for cup wins, and i know they only come once or twice in a lifetime, we're pumped. We've never reached a final outside of the top league and that wouldn't change in the chumpionship. Apart from that........... Good thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm thinking if we go down might not be a bad thing new manager fresh ideas! Hopefully and enjoying going to see saints again potential derby back and full houses instead of same guff every season thinking 10th or 11th is good enough I for one don't think would be end of the world as far as I can work out only McGinn Kelly Naismith Wylde Reilly and Harkins if he comes back are only players tied up for next season another massive summer ahead! Thoughts?? Cant think of anything worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert orchid Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'd like to retract my previous post......... If Farawaysaint likes it it must be pish......lol Only kidding or am i? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Hughes in BlueSuedeShoes Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Mods, I think this thread needs to be quietly put out of its misery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenburnSaint Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 We are starting to get some quality in with the likes of wylde along with thommo and kello if we can hold on to him. And djemba djemba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie-dee Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Post of the season so far. Young Man please stop taking the dogs tablets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioTacchiniGuy Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I'm thinking if we go down might not be a bad thing new manager fresh ideas! Hopefully and enjoying going to see saints again potential derby back and full houses instead of same guff every season thinking 10th or 11th is good enough I for one don't think would be end of the world as far as I can work out only McGinn Kelly Naismith Wylde Reilly and Harkins if he comes back are only players tied up for next season another massive summer ahead! Thoughts?? My thoughts are that all you have done here is open your mouth and clear your throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Saint Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Is nickysmfc on the board at St.Mirren?? Trying to sell the idea to the fans!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmurray24 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Nickysmfc and how many of those players have a clause in contract about going down a league. Most contracts will be based on SPFL status if relegated new contract will come into effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthebuddie Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I'm thinking if we go down might not be a bad thing new manager fresh ideas! Hopefully and enjoying going to see saints again potential derby back and full houses instead of same guff every season thinking 10th or 11th is good enough I for one don't think would be end of the world as far as I can work out only McGinn Kelly Naismith Wylde Reilly and Harkins if he comes back are only players tied up for next season another massive summer ahead! Thoughts?? Thoughts? You've had too much of the old monks wine i think? Going down being a good thing? only if its a lady with a cushion for her knees and top of her heid is nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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