nosferatu Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 The word you seek is irrelevant. Those who didn't vote are utterly irrelevant in terms of their views. A bit like yourself. Why don't you get a job in the real world instead of sponging off hard working taxpayers and spouting laughable pish on this website. Dimwit. No need to reply, I never read them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Ernie, stop making a fool of yourself yet again. I've used this line before but it's still right - if Carlsberg ever do irony you'll be right at the front of the queue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I know a number of Tories who voted SNP in order to help get a Tory government at Westminster. I know a number of tories who voted lib dem and even labour to try and keep the SNP from winning certain seats. That went well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 One of the main reasons for the fall of Labour must be their unbelievable naivety. I don't blame miliband, it's actually the strategists and special advisors. The labour party allowed themselves to be played by the Tories during the referendum. Tories had 1 MP and virtually nothing to lose in the grand scheme of things with regards a UK election. They manipulated labour through the BT campaign and labour were deluded into thinking they could immediately go into an election on the back of not only standing with tories but having basically the same policies as them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Completely irrelevant because it's a misrepresentation of what I said. I've explained what I meant and cleared any ambiguity but if you wish to persist with your foolishness it's your prerogative. Such a basic concept that I'm surprised you're having so much trouble with it - actually given that your own claims were so Bahokenesque I'm not surprised at your continued attempts to deflect attention from them. Good shirking and avoiding of the questions.No one who understands what potential electorate means will claim that the SNP had over 50% of it's electorate vote for it in May. You either don't understand the meaning of the term you used, or you do and you're trying to cover up for your mistake. Edited June 23, 2015 by TopCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Good shirking and avoiding of the questions. No one who understands what potential electorate means will claim that the SNP had over 50% of it's electorate vote for it in May. You either don't understand the meaning of the term you used, or you do and you're trying to cover up for your mistake. Let's go round again.................. Even if my original post was ambiguous I've explained what I meant by potential electorate, not a mistake merely an example of the beauty of the English language. Like I said the least said about your Bahokenesque claims the better................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Good shirking and avoiding of the questions. No one who understands what potential electorate means will claim that the SNP had over 50% of it's electorate vote for it in May. You either don't understand the meaning of the term you used, or you do and you're trying to cover up for your mistake. Are you standing in for Fatty tonight? If so, then take a bow. The phrase "making a rip roaring c**t of yourself" surely must have invented for your performance this evening. Edited June 23, 2015 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Let's go round again.................. Even if my original post was ambiguous I've explained what I meant by potential electorate, not a mistake merely an example of the beauty of the English language. Like I said the least said about your Bahokenesque claims the better................... What you said wasn't ambiguous in the slightest.. you just made a c**t of it. Bahokenesque Are you standing in for Fatty tonight? If so, then take a bow. The phrase "making a rip roaring c**t of yourself" surely must have invented for your performance this evening. The nat white knight is still shite at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 You are so deludedGolly! Such unassailable logic, and so cogently argued. You win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) What you said wasn't ambiguous in the slightest.. you just made a c**t of it. Bahokenesque : I'll say this one last time - by potential electorate I meant the people who voted in Scotland as opposed to the UK as a whole. Did the SNP get 50% of the votes cast in Scotland - yes or no? As you well know they did which is what I said and what I meant. If you don't accept it that's your prerogative, but I'm happy with what I said and that it makes sense to anyone not wishing to deliberately misinterpret it for their own reasons. Edited June 23, 2015 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I'll say this one last time - by potential electorate I meant the people who voted in Scotland as opposed to the UK as a whole. Did the SNP get 50% of the votes cast in Scotland - yes or no? As you well know they did which is what I said and what I meant. If you don't accept it that's your prerogative, but I'm happy with what I said and that it makes sense to anyone not wishing to deliberately misinterpret it for their own reasons. I think , 94% of the seats has a better ring to it and it seems to upset fat bastard , no end. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 You're a bastard! No offence. I've got him on ignore and you go and quote a post of his regarding me - I felt obliged to go back and see what he was gibbering about. I should have known what it was. It's the fact that he doesn't understand percentages that makes him think that I don't understand percentages. I've said it before but it is worth repeating (and even rephrasing) - he's too thick to grasp the fact that he's an idiot I don't know what he was replying to my post for anyway as he previously said that he wasn't going to reply to any of my posts unless they were specifically directed at him. Like his other alias, he's obviously just a lying cnut. He'll probably reply to this even though I'm directing this post at you. You'd only have seen it on your phone, anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I know a number of Tories who voted SNP in order to help get a Tory government at Westminster. The two people you know who did this would have made a fare dent in the Labour party's fortunes I'm sure. Or....Was there another one along with you and Dick....., sorry....., I meant was there another two unless pseudonyms have an extra vote in the election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 95% would be more like the truth. ;) Let's not get pedantic about it , 94.9152%. . If I said 95% , no doubt some sad c**t would have got their knickers in a twist. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 The SNP took 94% of the seats in Scotland. I don't know of any party in this country, this lifetime , ever gaining such a large percentage of seats . Yet we have a Conservative government. I suppose that is what seriously annoys , some people. . Oh dear , I really must have hit a nerve there. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) So your point is you're only part of the potential electorate if you voted in May? : What about those who voted in the referendum but never voted in May? Not part of the potential electorate or...? So the most recent years - the final year of the Tory led government - figures which shows Britain outperforming the other major economies is a lie? Would you rather we weren't? What figures would you like to use? In a logical sense, the potential electorate can only include those who are eligible to vote and who actually intend to vote. Those who won't consider voting can consider themselves part of the greater electorate, but based on voting potential they couldn't be considered as part of a potential electorate. Your point is like saying the entire population of the UK is a potential market for marmite and includes those who tried it and didn't like it and those who just don't fancy the stuff. Edited June 24, 2015 by beyond our ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 In a logical sense, the potential electorate can only include those who are eligible to vote and who actually intend to vote. Those who won't consider voting can consider themselves part of the greater electorate, but based on voting potential they couldn't be considered as part of a potential electorate. Your point is like saying the entire population of the UK is a potential market for marmite and includes those who tried it and didn't like it and those who just don't fancy the stuff. That's a perfectly reasonable point and it beggars belief that you need to spell it out for some posters who just seem intent on wrecking the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Hughes in BlueSuedeShoes Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 As suggested in the programme by the auld fella, former trade unionist (the name escapes me) when he said "I never left Labour, Labour left me" in a criticism of it's abandonment of socialist principles in order to pursue it's new found red tory agenda. Tommy Brennan, former convenor of shop stewards in Ravenscraig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykey Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Tommy Brennan, former convenor of shop stewards in Ravenscraig. He was quoting the late great Jimmy Reid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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