saintnextlifetime Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Thats just Oak his way of text book is right. Not that industry in certain quarter's are protected. Oil & Gas for instance it's all a mad conspiracy. Lol, yeah and vested interest by big business and big pharma dusnae exist . . . .or does it . . https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat?t=1536773408382 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, saintnextlifetime said: Lol, yeah and vested interest by big business and big pharma dusnae exist . . . .or does it . . https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat?t=1536773408382 No no thats a conspiracy lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: This is a personal view though it is talked about within my industry but I will give you a run down on somethings. What saintsinalifetime wrote is true. On the island I get milk delivered straight from the farm. It will last no more than three days refrigerated at plus 5c. Have had the co-op milk same full fat lasts over a full week in the same storage conditions. What opened up my mind was reading a book by a female scientist who caught Brest cancer and was told she had less than 3 month to live. This lady read every thing she could on breast cancer. To cut a long story short she found that countries who used less dairy or none at all had very little breast cancer. She also found a link to pesticides. You stopped all dairy products plus red meat and went organic. She worte the book 2 years after being diagnosed. That book made me read into it more given the industry I work in. Cattle , beef for eating are injected with hormones to make them fatter quicker also antibiotics even though the cattle are not sick. Grass for grazing is treated with pesticides as is plant food which have never been tested to see if they dangerous for human consumption. Moving on I have sailed from Aberdeen to Cape Town a journey of almost 4 weeks with no port calls. Loading up fresh food taking all plastic wrapped food unwrapped then wrap up the food in news paper to stop the food from sweating. Arriving in Cape Town I still had edible Iceberg lettuce, tomatoes , peppers. Working in West Africa we have to purchase these goods locally. they are missshaped have a life span of a week but importantly taste fantastic. It's a personal choice thing a bit like drinking and smoking. There is plenty info out there if you care to dig. I Eat red meet around once a month now and I'm careful what fish I eat. Cheese I'm a sucker for. The farming industry is very powerful now remember what Edwina Currie did to the egg industry that would not be allowed to happen now. Thatcher's government changed the law what could be used to feed cattle., other cattle grounded down feed What happens? Mad cow disease. So in a nutshell , are you saying that pesticides that are designed to kill insects and other pests may also be bad for humans . Surely you don't think farmers are only using these to increase profits ? Oh and hang on , are you also suggesting that antibiotics in the food chain that end up in our own bloodstreams are bad for us ? Are you suggesting that there are toxic substances in the food on open sale. . Just one more question , do you know why there is sugar in almost every packed food in the supermarket from tinned fish to crisps to breakfast cereal (even Alpen) ? Edited September 12, 2018 by saintnextlifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, saintnextlifetime said: So in a nutshell , are you saying that pesticides that are designed to kill insects and other pests may also be bad for humans . Surely you don't think farmers are only using these to increase profits ? Oh and hang on , are you also suggesting that antibiotics in the food chain that end up in our own bloodstreams are bad for us ? Are you suggesting that there are toxic substances in the food on open sale. . Just one more question , do you know why there is sugar in almost every packed food in the supermarket from tinned fish to crisps to breakfast cearal (even Alpen) ? Exactly 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 I only have 300ml of that new BOB milk , 2 slice of wholemeal bread , 2 scrapings of olive oil spread and 25g of cheese max a day. Add to that Donner Kebabs , KFC , McDonalds and the odd Burger King , I think my diet is well balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 I only have 300ml of that new BOB milk , 2 slice of wholemeal bread , 2 scrapings of olive oil spread and 25g of cheese max a day. Add to that Donner Kebabs , KFC , McDonalds and the odd Burger King , I think my diet is well balanced[emoji3]Does the wholemeal bread not bloat you? [emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, BuddieinEK said: Does the wholemeal bread not bloat you? I find the fibre content most helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 hours ago, saintnextlifetime said: Wow . . . .okay so you never rely on your own observations . . Best not to put words in my mouth. I don't need lessons on how to properly research something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 hours ago, saintnextlifetime said: Lol, yeah and vested interest by big business and big pharma dusnae exist . . . .or does it . . https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat?t=1536773408382 Did someone say they didn't exist? Who said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Q: How do you know when someone is vegan? A; Within a nanosecond of meeting you they'll tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, oaksoft said: Did someone say they didn't exist? Who said that? Since they do exist , it simply means none of them can be taken at face value , in particular since big business funds the majority of "scientific research " in this country through universities. . 7 hours ago, oaksoft said: Best not to put words in my mouth. I don't need lessons on how to properly research something. Excellent . I don't need lessons on how to research something either. . Edited September 13, 2018 by saintnextlifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 46 minutes ago, saintnextlifetime said: Since they do exist , it simply means none of them can be taken at face value , in particular since big business funds the majority of "scientific research " in this country through universities. . Excellent . I don't need lessons on how to research something either. . I research issues on a regular basis and always take advice-where am i going wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: I research issues on a regular basis and always take advice-where am i going wrong? I couldn't possibly tell you , you should ask Oakstur. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, saintnextlifetime said: I couldn't possibly tell you , you should ask Oakstur. . But if he doesnt take advice-how can he advise me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, beyond our ken said: But if he doesnt take advice-how can he advise me? This is one of those "Schrödinger's cat" moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, linwood buddie said: This is one of those "Schrödinger's cat" moments. That sounds like a conspiracy. . Do you have any peer reviewed scientific literature to back that up. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, saintnextlifetime said: That sounds like a conspiracy. . Do you have any peer reviewed scientific literature to back that up. . Oakstur knows what it means and if nobody else does its because they are just not clever enough..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 This thread has taken a turn for the weird. I feel slightly soiled by being in the presence of conspiracy theory nutjobs. I will leave you guys to howl at the moon. Crazy bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 A none dairy diet is a fast growing market. A family on Bute started a none dairy cheese but had to change the name to Sheese. They started with 6 employees just over a year ago today they have 160 full time employees exporting their products to many parts of the world. Sheese comes in many flavours, cheddar, Jalapeno, smoked , Cranberry plus many more. They have started producing none dairy Ice Cream which because of the contract can only be sold at Sainsbury. We did a talk in the shop of their vagan products and heath benefits. We put out lots of products for people to try. Sauces , Pizzas toasties, Grilled Aubergine , slow roasted tomatoes & sheese salad. Some of the sheese is a hit I could easily eat. The none dairy Ice Cream is phenomenal a real winner just a shame it is limited to Sainsbury it would be a real market winner if promoted. One year this company is growing at some rate. Well... I didn't try the sheese, but happy to recommend a visit to IoBS's gaff for some quality scran when on the island. MrsEK and I both gave it a huge thumbs up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: Well... I didn't try the sheese, but happy to recommend a visit to IoBS's gaff for some quality scran when on the island.MrsEK and both gave it a huge thumbs up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 9:19 PM, saintnextlifetime said: Humankind are the only creatures on Earth to continue to take milk after weaning and the milk they take is from another species . . What about doemstic cats then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: Well... I didn't try the sheese, but happy to recommend a visit to IoBS's gaff for some quality scran when on the island. MrsEK and both gave it a huge thumbs up! Great to meet you and the good wife EK be sure to have knees up tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, TediousTom said: What about doemstic cats then? Yeah they take it when humans give them it with perhaps no choice . They wouldn't take it naturally . The last two times l offered a cat milk it turned it down . Let's face it the product is nothing like what it was when you were young it has been stripped of any nutrition it had a while ago and had some antibiotics chucked into it. .no wonder Louis Pastuer recanted on his deathbed. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, BuddieinEK said: Well... I didn't try the sheese, but happy to recommend a visit to IoBS's gaff for some quality scran when on the island. MrsEK and I both gave it a huge thumbs up! I also found the scran to be first rate along with the service. There is a real Ambience in the place , great music too . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 22 hours ago, linwood buddie said: I only have 300ml of that new BOB milk , 2 slice of wholemeal bread , 2 scrapings of olive oil spread and 25g of cheese max a day. Add to that Donner Kebabs , KFC , McDonalds and the odd Burger King , I think my diet is well balanced Depends whose on the other end of the seesaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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