faraway saint Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 41 minutes ago, stlucifer said: Perhaps, as well as figures, you need to invest in learning English too. See the forum idiot is agreeing with you, a sure sign you're fecked, as if they're was any doubt when you deflect as much as you have. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, faraway saint said: See the forum idiot is agreeing with you, a sure sign you're fecked, as if they're was any doubt when you deflect as much as you have. 😂 Irony. I like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Irony. I like that. [emoji4]Ricky must be back? That's the last person, in a line of a few, that creepy was calling the forum idiot.Faraway's posts on here are like trump's tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 UK Government minister announces at 10pm on a Saturday night that those shielding can stop from Monday.No mention that it's England only.Says guidance will be available today. Not yet, it's not.This was meant to happen when we reach level 1. Scientific advisors say we are still at level 4. Government says it's level 3.GP's latest in a line of specialists hung out to dry by vague weekend announcements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: UK Government minister announces at 10pm on a Saturday night that those shielding can stop from Monday. No mention that it's England only. Says guidance will be available today. Not yet, it's not. This was meant to happen when we reach level 1. Scientific advisors say we are still at level 4. Government says it's level 3. GP's latest in a line of specialists hung out to dry by vague weekend announcements. I'm sure The PM Buffoon will sort it all out when we next see him.. ...whenever that might be. Is he on holiday this week? Parental leave? Sick, again? Abducted by Aliens...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 I'm sure The PM Buffoon will sort it all out when we next see him.. ...whenever that might be. Is he on holiday this week? Parental leave? Sick, again? Abducted by Aliens...?It's the weekend ffs, he already had to work the holiday Monday last week. Even had to stay on late due to Cummings demanding the tea time slot for his press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, antrin said: I'm sure The PM Buffoon will sort it all out when we next see him.. ...whenever that might be. Is he on holiday this week? Parental leave? Sick, again? Abducted by Aliens...? A buffoon calling someone else a buffoon, irony. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) Due to an arbitrary redefinition in the method of counting the government reached it's, ahem, target of 200,000 test per day by the end of May yesterday- (205,634 were officially available). The actual number of tests carried out was 127,722 - clearly we live in a post-truth world. We are now into the post lockdown world with no proper tracking app despite it being an essential component of TTI less than a month ago - good luck to us all! Edited May 31, 2020 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, TPAFKATS said: Ricky must be back? That's the last person, in a line of a few, that creepy was calling the forum idiot. Faraway's posts on here are like trump's tweets. That's the closest I have seen anyone come to insulting Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Today's number, 113. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist about data. The exact numbers are not critical, (within reason) the consistent method will show a trend and give some indication of how the lockdown is working, or not. Some people are only happy with data that suits their political agenda. I notice the hyenas are getting desperate today, things must be getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: That's the closest I have seen anyone come to insulting Trump Then again.. Even the pathetic efforts of the Wee man don't come close to those of The Donald. Mind you, the Wee Man likes 5 star hotels I hear. Maybe he reserves a suite at Turnberry and knows The Donald intimately so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, antrin said: Irony. I like that. Remember back in the day when you thought you were important, correcting spelling mistakes? Now, with the invention of spell check and auto correct, you've become as good as useless. You still think the odd auto correct mistake equals a lack of intellect, that's irony. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Today's number, 113. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist about data. The exact numbers are not critical, (within reason) the consistent method will show a trend and give some indication of how the lockdown is working, or not. Some people are only happy with data that suits their political agenda. I notice the hyenas are getting desperate today, things must be getting better. Because the more consistent and accurate your data is the better informed your decisions will be, if the data is being recorded in different ways and at different intervals in different parts of the country it effectiveness is reduced, as you say it's merely an "indication of how lockdown is working" it's just another example of this governments slipshod approach to the pandemic - but hey-ho perhaps "the exact numbers are not critical" because at least we've got a "world-beating" track and trace system in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Turns out that SAGE didn’t even discuss lockdown never mind advise it Lockdown was purely a political decision with no scientific basis oh dear.... https://www.paulchaplin.life/blog-original/lockdown-boris-violated-sage-advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Today's number, 113. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist about data. The exact numbers are not critical, (within reason) the consistent method will show a trend and give some indication of how the lockdown is working, or not. Some people are only happy with data that suits their political agenda. I notice the hyenas are getting desperate today, things must be getting better. Of course the numbers are important Many of those 113 won’t have been tested. Deaths in care homes and in the community don’t get tested. They can just get put down as ‘presumed Covid’. Its covering up the fact that people are dying because they’ve shut down the NHS https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490006-death-certificates-covid-19-do-not-trust/ Edited May 31, 2020 by Sue Denim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: a "world-beating" track and trace system in place. Track and trace is just a cover to try and reassure folk that it’s safe to go outside again. They’ll use it to try and pretend that they’ve got the virus under control and that lockdown was necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: Because the more consistent and accurate your data is the better informed your decisions will be, if the data is being recorded in different ways and at different intervals in different parts of the country it effectiveness is reduced, as you say it's merely an "indication of how lockdown is working" it's just another example of this governments slipshod approach to the pandemic - but hey-ho perhaps "the exact numbers are not critical" because at least we've got a "world-beating" track and trace system in place. As I said, people will believe what suits their agenda. You're not seriously saying that the data has to be EXACT to be of any use in this situation? PS I did say within reason, not that suits your agenda. Edited May 31, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 9 days to lockdown and SAGE says It is clear that household quarantining would lead to increased risk of others within the household becoming infected, as described in the modelling” Yes, you are reading that correct yet. SAGE advise to the government was that lockdown would increase infection. This is exactly what I said at the start. It was just plain common sense. Edited May 31, 2020 by Sue Denim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 12 days until lockdown and SAGE says SAGE noted that public gatherings pose a relatively low but not zero public risk. People are more likely to be infected by people they know, not strangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 On the day of lockdown, SAGE says SAGE itself has no idea as to how social interventions have affected numbers of cases. The scientific answer could of course be Zero. Lockdown cannot save those many who are expected to die within a year Lockdown will cause excess deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 The Association of Directors of Public Health have now written to UK government asking them not to lift lockdown until a robust tracing system is in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Staggering number of excess deaths not explained by Covid https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1931 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 50-90% of Covid infections are asymptomatic Track and trace can never be robust and can never work Folk like to point to South Korea but Japan did bugger all testing (and didn’t lockdown) and ended up with the same result as South Korea It’s a fig leaf for the government to try and pretend that lockdown worked Stop the killing, end the lockdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 52 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: Of course the numbers are important Many of those 113 won’t have been tested. Deaths in care homes and in the community don’t get tested. They can just get put down as ‘presumed Covid’. Its covering up the fact that people are dying because they’ve shut down the NHS https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490006-death-certificates-covid-19-do-not-trust/ Forget trying to use logic with the Wee Man from Arbroath. All he is interested in is getting his posts noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Great to see so many people flouting the lockdown this weekend. Started on Friday with a huge group of kids outside the shops on Braehead Road. Neighbours having a barbecue this afternoon with more than 1 other household and no social distancing. And taking the in laws dog for a walk this afternoon in fields round the back, walked past 3 different large groups of kids flouting the rules. Good on them. And loving the outrage on social media commenting on all the photos of people flocking to popular spots at the weekend. End the lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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