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46 minutes ago, salmonbuddie said:
53 minutes ago, oaksoft said:
As much of it as I could stomach.
It's all too full of over-emotional novellistic fluff for my liking and it didn't surprise me that it's taken from her newly published book.
I'm not disputing that quite a number of hospitals are over-run and in total chaos but this is not true across the country. I am wary of taking one viewpoint and extrapolating that across the entire UK. I am also very wary of people fluffing their pillows over their involvement.
If that article hadn't been written in such unnecessary, flowery "novellistic" language and had stuck to the facts it would have been easier to read.
BUT as I said, you've already decreed that no comment is needed by anyone else so I'm confused about why you would make that declaration and then come back and ask for my comments.

Are you the reincarnation of a WW1 General? It would explain a lot...

I do enjoy our conversations but if you can step back from judging others morals right now can I ask you a question?

This person is talking about being run into the ground with exhaustion and being mentally and physically at breaking point.

Did it occur to you to question where she found the time and energy to both use twitter and write an entire book in the teeth of a pandemic if things were really that bad for her?

I'm not making any judgment on her at all. Simply asking the obvious question.

It's raised a flag for me. Did it raise one for you or are you so caught up in the emotion of it that you can't bring yourself to doubt any of it?

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I do enjoy our conversations but if you can step back from judging others morals right now can I ask you a question?
This person is talking about being run into the ground with exhaustion and being mentally and physically at breaking point.
Did it occur to you to question where she found the time and energy to both use twitter and write an entire book in the teeth of a pandemic if things were really that bad for her?
I'm not making any judgment on her at all. Simply asking the obvious question.
It's raised a flag for me. Did it raise one for you or are you so caught up in the emotion of it that you can't bring yourself to doubt any of it?


Maintaining the WW1 analogy, I imagined she did it in the same way as all those poets - Owen, Sassoon, Brooke, Graves et al - managed to write about the horrors they experienced while they were experiencing them.

Are you questioning them, too?
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My wife and I got the Pfizer  jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant  eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough.

And we have to through this maybe twice more!

And it might not work.

Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing !

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1 hour ago, salmonbuddie said:


 

 


Maintaining the WW1 analogy, I imagined she did it in the same way as all those poets - Owen, Sassoon, Brooke, Graves et al - managed to write about the horrors they experienced while they were experiencing them.

Are you questioning them, too?

 

Don't start using strawman arguments with me young man. 😄

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3 hours ago, Sue Denim said:

Millionaire champagne socialists say that Covid is the gift that keeps on giving

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9232085/Covid-gift-keeps-giving-says-ally-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html

Eating the poor @Bud the Baker

You're right about there being financial losers and winners from the pandemic Cap'n, 10 months late, but right enough.

The really sad thing from Labour's POV is that the pandemic is clearly not giving them anywhere near enough and that despite courting the xenophobic voters in the "red wall" seats Labour are still behind the Tories down south. 

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I'm currently listening to Them Belly Full by Bob Marley, sadly the lyrics are still relevant today - I've known all about there being two worlds for 40odd years. :spud5

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Them belly full but we hungry
A hungry mob is a angry mob
A rain a-fall but the dirt it tough
A pot a-cook but the food no 'nough

 

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44 minutes ago, waldorf34 said:

My wife and I got the Pfizer  jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant  eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough.

And we have to through this maybe twice more!

And it might not work.

Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing !

.

It could be that your strong reaction to the jabs simply underlines how potentially at risk you would have been if you had been really infected by/exposed to the actual virus.

I hope you've mentioned this to your doctor?

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Don't start using strawman arguments with me young man. 
It's not a strawman argument, I answered your question and gave you the analogy I used. I genuinely thought it must be similar (psychologically) to being in the trenches when I was reading it hence the analogy.
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1 hour ago, waldorf34 said:

My wife and I got the Pfizer  jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant  eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough.

And we have to through this maybe twice more!

And it might not work.

Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing !

.

Christ, you've been whining for weeks about groups of people who, in your view, hadn't had the vaccine and now you've got it you're questioning the worth?

You use "maybe" and "might not work" in your dreary post, that sums up your attitude to this.

Aye, just keep yourself locked up, that's a much better option, that a short spell of discomfort. 

Entirely your choice. 

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1 hour ago, waldorf34 said:

My wife and I got the Pfizer  jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant  eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough.

And we have to through this maybe twice more!

And it might not work.

Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing !

.

It's affecting me too

I am already sick of your whingeing. 

Go speak to a doctor-he or she will definitely care more than i do

 

And it will work.

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5 hours ago, Sue Denim said:

Interesting. The histogram appears to show that 2020 death rate is the highest since the 2008-9 swine flu pandemic.

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1 hour ago, waldorf34 said:

My wife and I got the Pfizer  jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant  eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough.

And we have to through this maybe twice more!

And it might not work.

Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing !

.

I suggest that you might actually have developed Covid and should phone for advice.

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2 hours ago, waldorf34 said:

My wife and I got the Pfizer  jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant  eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough.

And we have to through this maybe twice more!

And it might not work.

Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing !

.

As smcc says, maybe you have the virus since it takes more than a week for the jag to start working. 

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1 hour ago, smcc said:

I suggest that you might actually have developed Covid and should phone for advice.

Of course we phoned for advice ,they said it did sound not  like covid itself ,so phone your doctor ,we have to phone at 8am ,told to come for appointment  at 10.30am ,so through the snow me and my74 year old went ,had to wait outside because we were early ,then doctor said we should isolate!

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16 minutes ago, waldorf34 said:

Of course we phoned for advice ,they said it did sound not  like covid itself ,so phone your doctor ,we have to phone at 8am ,told to come for appointment  at 10.30am ,so through the snow me and my74 year old went ,had to wait outside because we were early ,then doctor said we should isolate!

Hopefully it's a short term issue, got to look further ahead, safer for you both in the long term. 

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16 hours ago, salmonbuddie said:
16 hours ago, oaksoft said:
Don't start using strawman arguments with me young man. emoji1.png

It's not a strawman argument, I answered your question and gave you the analogy I used. I genuinely thought it must be similar (psychologically) to being in the trenches when I was reading it hence the analogy.

OK I'll take you at your word on that and I'll answer in a similar vein.

Stories of what it was like working as a medic during the pandemic will certainly be worthwhile and I'm sure this woman will sell a ton of books.

The difference is that in WW1 they had a heap of downtime and keeping the troops from getting bored was a constant struggle. Owen and the others had plenty of time to write. This pandemic has been a different kettle of fish. Writing an entire novel and keeping up a twitter feed whilst simultaneously talking about being constantly overwhelmed with work undermines what she is saying.

As an aside, I have to say that the accounts of WW1 which I wanted to read didn't include the likes of Owen or other poets because, although I have tried, I'm not generally interested in poetry. I was always drawn to more factual accounts which left out most of the unnecessary emotional stuff.

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