Cookie Monster Posted April 29, 2022 Report Share Posted April 29, 2022 And plenty don't get paid, I'm sure that would influence people views on the prolonged protocols. Again, personal anecdotes are really nothing more than that, as I could quote more people who had next to no serious symptoms, certainly felt well enough to work. Is this the scheme you are talking about.......................or was it still available in Scotland, who decided to continue with the restrictions? The Test and Trace Support Payment scheme ended on 24 February 2022. Not ended in Scotland, the £500 is still available until tomorrow, then it changes to £225 as the guidance advises you to stay at home for 5 days.You still need a positive PCR test to get these grants.More details here. https://www.mygov.scot/self-isolation-grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Not ended in Scotland, the £500 is still available until tomorrow, then it changes to £225 as the guidance advises you to stay at home for 5 days. You still need a positive PCR test to get these grants. More details here. https://www.mygov.scot/self-isolation-grant Thanks for sharing CM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Thanks for sharing CMIt's what I do when someone asks a question or posts sh!te.Goes back to the days when I was a journalist. [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Cookie Monster said: It's what I do when someone asks a question or posts sh!te. Goes back to the days when I was a journalist. Thanks for sharing, ya walloper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Cookie Monster said: It's what I do when someone asks a question or posts sh!te. Goes back to the days when I was a journalist. The good old days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Thanks for sharing, ya walloper. I was only answering your question. [emoji867]The sh!te was directed at Walter. [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: I was only answering your question. The sh!te was directed at Walter. I know ya fud, I was only mimicking his pointless post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Oh dear. The misguided are at it again it seems. Best to leave them to believe what they want to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 I know ya fud, I was only mimicking his pointless post. Seems we've upset it. Again. [emoji1787] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 New Zealand are obviously not alarmed by the miniscule outbreak in China, opening up the borders today to quite a few countries. They must be mad. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 On 2/8/2020 at 8:49 AM, faraway saint said: Jeezo, them Chinese are now physically grabbing people, bundling them into vans and carting them away to god knows where. Massive over reaction. Worth remembering that this was posted in early February 2020. Wonder what happened next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Rascal said: Worth remembering that this was posted in early February 2020. Wonder what happened next? You're not comparing now against......oh wait, you actually are. 🤡 You're beyond help, it's hard to tell if you're just being obnoxious or you're really that dim. I'm going for a bit of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 On 2/8/2020 at 8:49 AM, faraway saint said: Jeezo, them Chinese are now physically grabbing people, bundling them into vans and carting them away to god knows where. Massive over reaction. Jings and help ma Boab. He still doesn’t get it. Hard to believe, I know. Big pandemics start from little beginnings. That should be clear. Mutations occur with regularity with no guarantee that the new strain will be less serious. What is true is that I hope that we are better prepared and able to develop improved vaccines. The protection afforded by the present ones loses effectiveness fairly quickly. Once or twice yearly jabs look to be on the cards for any immuno suppressed or elderly folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 2/8/2020 at 8:49 AM, faraway saint said: Jeezo, them Chinese are now physically grabbing people, bundling them into vans and carting them away to god knows where. Massive over reaction. W.H.O. Confirm 15m Deaths https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-05/almost-15-million-died-from-covid-or-its-impact-on-healthcare-systems-who-says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 W.H.O. Confirm 15m Deaths https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-05/almost-15-million-died-from-covid-or-its-impact-on-healthcare-systems-who-saysNo it doesn't, it clearly says ESTIMATED not CONFIRMED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rascal said: W.H.O. Confirm 15m Deaths https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-05/almost-15-million-died-from-covid-or-its-impact-on-healthcare-systems-who-says 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: 1 hour ago, Rascal said: W.H.O. Confirm 15m Deaths https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-05/almost-15-million-died-from-covid-or-its-impact-on-healthcare-systems-who-says No it doesn't, it clearly says ESTIMATED not CONFIRMED. It also indicates that the number of deaths may be more than that figure. ”It has been problematic calculating accurate numbers on Covid deaths throughout the pandemic, as the figures are only a fraction of the devastation wrought by the virus.” …, which strongly suggests that it’s a bigger, deadlier figure than the modest estimate. Edited May 5, 2022 by antrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, antrin said: It also indicates that the number of deaths may be more than that figure. ”It has been problematic calculating accurate numbers on Covid deaths throughout the pandemic, as the figures are only a fraction of the devastation wrought by the virus.” …, which strongly suggests that it’s a bigger, deadlier figure than the modest estimate. Absolutely agree. W.H.O. has a reputation for being “conservative “ with their statistics. Sensible iMO. The bare figures are disturbing enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, antrin said: It also indicates that the number of deaths may be more than that figure. ”It has been problematic calculating accurate numbers on Covid deaths throughout the pandemic, as the figures are only a fraction of the devastation wrought by the virus.” …, which strongly suggests that it’s a bigger, deadlier figure than the modest estimate. Does it? It strongly suggests that they have no accurate numbers and this inflated figure is clearly not deaths DUE to covid. The mention of covid on the death certificate is vastly misleading, which has been well debated over the last 2 years or so. Almost 15 million people died either from Covid-19 or its impact on overwhelmed health systems in the past two years, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has estimated. Edited May 5, 2022 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) I listened to the report on this on Radio 4 today , they made it clear that the figures are estimated and most likely on the conservative side , however ……… They also said the figures were “excess deaths” and included things like : People who weren’t covid + but couldn’t access Hospital / Medical services for other conditions such as heart attacks / strokes etc which turned out to be fatal . People who were already terminally Ill and died during covid even if they had recovered from the Covid then succumbed to their original illness. An unknown amount of unreported deaths ( Eh ?!? 🤔) from places where reporting was poor or non existent An element of people ,mainly in places like India who fell I’ll and died but never even tested during the pandemic anyway and were buried or otherwise disposed of by family members !! So basically , they thought of a number , doubled it, added a wee bit for wiggle room and expect us to take it as gospel despite them making lots of guesses and assumptions. 🙄 Edited May 5, 2022 by Callum Gilhooley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: So basically , they thought of a number , doubled it, added a wee bit for wiggle room and expect us to take it as gospel despite them making lots of guesses and assumptions. 🙄 Pretty close to my interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 I listened to the report on this on Radio 4 today , they made it clear that the figures are estimated and most likely on the conservative side , however ……… They also said the figures were “excess deaths” and included things like : People who weren’t covid + but couldn’t access Hospital / Medical services for other conditions such as heart attacks / strokes etc which turned out to be fatal . People who were already terminally Ill and died during covid even if they had recovered from the Covid then succumbed to their original illness. An unknown amount of unreported deaths ( Eh ?!? [emoji848]) from places where reporting was poor or non existent An element of people ,mainly in places like India who fell I’ll and died but never even tested during the pandemic anyway and were buried or otherwise disposed of by family members !! So basically , they thought of a number , doubled it, added a wee bit for wiggle room and expect us to take it as gospel despite them making lots of guesses and assumptions. [emoji849]Aye, but the trick is in knowing which number they picked. [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Slarti said: Aye, but the trick is in knowing which number they picked. 42 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 4 hours ago, faraway saint said: Does it? It strongly suggests that they have no accurate numbers and this inflated figure is clearly not deaths DUE to covid. The mention of covid on the death certificate is vastly misleading, which has been well debated over the last 2 years or so. Almost 15 million people died either from Covid-19 or its impact on overwhelmed health systems in the past two years, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has estimated. It has been misleading regarding under reporting. This has been explained to you multiple times & now the WHO are further backing it up. People who have Covid on their death certificate but Covid isn’t the primary cause is very likely to be less than people that don’t have Covid on their death certificate because they were never tested or died after the 28 day period that many nations used, yet still died due to the virus. The majority of people who die with Covid, died from Covid. As in, they would still have been alive had they not contracted Covid. The more studies into the pandemic we do, the more this is validated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, bazil85 said: It has been misleading regarding under reporting. This has been explained to you multiple times & now the WHO are further backing it up. People who have Covid on their death certificate but Covid isn’t the primary cause is very likely to be less than people that don’t have Covid on their death certificate because they were never tested or died after the 28 day period that many nations used, yet still died due to the virus. The majority of people who die with Covid, died from Covid. As in, they would still have been alive had they not contracted Covid. The more studies into the pandemic we do, the more this is validated. Wasting your time… ”Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted May 5, 2022 Report Share Posted May 5, 2022 Wasting your time… ”Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.”Hey, ya thief.I knew a guy who died due to the effects of smoking - he stopped in the middle of the road to light a fag and got hit by a bus. Smoking kills, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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