northstbuddie

Why should we have 10 behind the ball and play for a 0-0 when our defence is the weakest it’s been in years and we haven't kept a clean sheet at Parkhead for decades and not even kept one all season! I say fair play to him for having a go, I’ve never seen us create so many chances at Parkhead ever.

My personal preference is for Ian Murray at Dumbarton, but I needed to waft my fingers over the keyboard for a few moments before typing that. My thinking behind plumping for Murray is that, despite how hard it is to admit it, i think Jose Mourinho might struggle with this particular St Mirren squad - so glaringly weak are we in so many vital areas, due to dereliction of transfer window duty by both Danny Lennon and Tommy Craig.
Given my realisation that we are a poorly assembled, unbalanced squad, the likes of Butcher and Calderwood would trouble me should they be appointed and we go down anyway. Murray has to a good extent at least, cut his managerial teeth at a struggling 'Div 1' club, so if we found ourselves there again, as a young and still ambitious manager, he could be the guy to navigate us towards re-building a new St Mirren in fizzy pop land. I just can't picture Tangoman or El Tel having much appetite for budget cuts and getting down and dirty with the likes of Falkirk or Queens/Hibs etc.
In many respects, just like Danny at Cowdenbeath, St Mirren's modest budget is still a helluva' lot more to play with than Murray has at Dumbarton, and we would be an attractive proposition for him to move up a fair bit from where he currently is.
IF he kept us up, fantastic, but if we go down, I'd fancy him to be the right man to stick with us and be our manager in a league he already knows.

I have no managerial experience, no coaching badges to my name, very little tactical awareness, but even I fancy that I could do a better job than Tommy Craig as St Mirren manager. I'll happily give it a bash for £50k a year, as I think I could get more out of a squad with 5 current and former Scotland U21 players and 2 ex-Scotland internationalists, 75% of home games where we don't score, 0% clean sheets, 50% of league games where we have 2 shots or less on target, 73% of league games lost games.
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You're not helping your "argument" with that. The only salient point in that sentence is that St Mirren ARE still sitting in the league that hearts and Hibs weren't good enough to stay in, especially as Hearts ignominious failure was prompted by them being punished for cheating.
Rangers no longer exist because they were even bigger cheats, whilst their new tribute act has been struggling in the league below even though it's running on empty with overpaid nonentities, funded on a month by month basis by an English sports goods capitalist who is not infected by Rangersitis. All their assets have been filched by Spivs, all the money that goes into the cess-pit is being removed by outsiders.
Saints and their youngsters are still in the league and have not been caught out as cheating to do so.
For me, that's quite good, though the sooner the club climbs from the present temporary unfortunate position, the happier I'll be.
It's in the nature of sport (non-cheating sport) for there to be winners and losers. You'd do well to remember that and realise that St Mirren for all their frailties and foibles are currently worthy members of the highest division in the land. It is still the same club it has always been, has not been punished for systematic cheating and is being run by Buddies with its best interests at heart...
Though, as in all walks of life, there have been wee stumbles along the way.

indeed, he set us up well and we entertained in every game

Whoever is taken on as manager of St Mirren (or any other club) is always a chance appointment.
Unless with the benefit of hindsight, who would have thought that Alex Ferguson, in his East Stirlingshire days, would have become the most successful manager ever (albeit he was sacked by St Mirren). Ricky Macfarlane, Jim Clunie, Tom Hendrie and Gus McPherson also had relative success at Paisley - as did Danny Lennon!
As fans we have our opinions but not the responsibility for our choice.
We can only hope that SG and the Board have better luck with their next appointment, but they cannot be blamed too much for TC's appointment as he is generally recognized as one of the best Scottish coaches over the past decade or so. Personally I regret that Tommy was not able to successfully make the step-up to manager. I do not know him personally, but he came across to me as a decent man who deserves our thanks for all that he contributed as a coach in his time at St Mirren. I seem to remember that it was only when he teamed up with DL that St Mirren's results and performances picked up.

As TC himself has said in the past, football is a results-driven activity and on that basis alone he should no longer be in post. However, we have had horrendous injuries which are now starting to ease up and it would just be like the St Mirren we love if they got a result at Parkhead next week - stranger things have happened but don't ask me to provide examples.
What is disturbing, especially for the BOD, is the excruciating apathy which is now engulfing the club with sub 3,000 attendances now par for the course. Things have never been worse than this in my lifetime of supporting St Mirren so it is clear that something needs to happen by the end of the year, otherwise our club could disappear off the face of the SPL - and beyond!

There is not a lot of disagreement amongst those posting on here but the problem seems to be that nobody at the club is facing up to the root cause of why we are in the dire position we find ourselves today, which is that over the last 2 or 3 seasons we have had a massive clearout of players of reasonable ability and replaced them with players of lesser ability, no doubt for cost cutting reasons.
As has been previously pointed out by myself and quite a few others on here, the likes of McGowan, Samson, Carey, Imrie, Harkins and McGinn have gone on to other clubs and whilst they might not be setting the heather on fire, they were certainly better than what we have today and you have to ask would we be at the foot of the league if they were still at GHR. Then there are the 'loan' players that we can't afford to keep such as Dummett, Newton and Goncalves.
The transfer strategy is no doubt decided by the BOD as is the choice of manager.
If the current and the previous managers had been up to the task, perhaps we would have got more out of the players we have/had and also a better quality of replacement players signed.
All of which answers the question "Could Anyone Do Any Better?".
But the next questions are "Who?" and "When?".

Yesterday I posted that we should turn up and support the team.
Today I had the misfortune to witness what I thought was one of the most inept performances I have ever seen from a St Mirren team.
Some have stated that Thistle edged it today - they were not at the same game that I was at!
Despite scoring only once the Jags were miles ahead of us in almost every aspect of the game. They moved the ball around with much more purpose and skill and were faster, stronger and generally fitter and bigger than our guys and yet are only average themselves by SPFL standards.
Yesterday I tried to be positive - today, like the great majority on here, I find it difficult to see where our next point is going to come from.
We are just not good enough for this division and we might even struggle next season in the league below us. In fact we struggled to beat Morton (who are two leagues below us) in the Renfrewshire Cup Final.
It's great the difference a day makes!

Yesterday I posted that we should turn up and support the team.
Today I had the misfortune to witness what I thought was one of the most inept performances I have ever seen from a St Mirren team.
Some have stated that Thistle edged it today - they were not at the same game that I was at!
Despite scoring only once the Jags were miles ahead of us in almost every aspect of the game. They moved the ball around with much more purpose and skill and were faster, stronger and generally fitter and bigger than our guys and yet are only average themselves by SPFL standards.
Yesterday I tried to be positive - today, like the great majority on here, I find it difficult to see where our next point is going to come from.
We are just not good enough for this division and we might even struggle next season in the league below us. In fact we struggled to beat Morton (who are two leagues below us) in the Renfrewshire Cup Final.
It's great the difference a day makes!

Yesterday I posted that we should turn up and support the team.
Today I had the misfortune to witness what I thought was one of the most inept performances I have ever seen from a St Mirren team.
Some have stated that Thistle edged it today - they were not at the same game that I was at!
Despite scoring only once the Jags were miles ahead of us in almost every aspect of the game. They moved the ball around with much more purpose and skill and were faster, stronger and generally fitter and bigger than our guys and yet are only average themselves by SPFL standards.
Yesterday I tried to be positive - today, like the great majority on here, I find it difficult to see where our next point is going to come from.
We are just not good enough for this division and we might even struggle next season in the league below us. In fact we struggled to beat Morton (who are two leagues below us) in the Renfrewshire Cup Final.
It's great the difference a day makes!

Yesterday I posted that we should turn up and support the team.
Today I had the misfortune to witness what I thought was one of the most inept performances I have ever seen from a St Mirren team.
Some have stated that Thistle edged it today - they were not at the same game that I was at!
Despite scoring only once the Jags were miles ahead of us in almost every aspect of the game. They moved the ball around with much more purpose and skill and were faster, stronger and generally fitter and bigger than our guys and yet are only average themselves by SPFL standards.
Yesterday I tried to be positive - today, like the great majority on here, I find it difficult to see where our next point is going to come from.
We are just not good enough for this division and we might even struggle next season in the league below us. In fact we struggled to beat Morton (who are two leagues below us) in the Renfrewshire Cup Final.
It's great the difference a day makes!

I intend to be at the game and I hope I don't feel too lonely when I get there!
Understandibly confidence is at a low ebb at the moment not just amongst the supporters but the players and everyone else at the club.
So perhaps we should remind ourselves what a great club St Mirren is and recall the great memories most of us have over our lifetime when there were better days.
St Mirren are one of the oldest clubs in Scotland and are steeped in tradition. They have provided some of the greatest footballers over the decades and I have been a bit disappointed to see so many posts on this forum seemingly 'accepting' that we are just a small provincial club with very limited prospects for the future.
Let's shake off the current lethargy and pessimism and start supporting the Saints again. A negative attitude is not going to help us get out of the current situation.
We seem to have been out-supported at most home games this season, so starting with tomorrow's game against Partick Thistle (another great club with a similarly impressive history) let's get behind the team and the manager and hopefully we will soon turn the corner.

I intend to be at the game and I hope I don't feel too lonely when I get there!
Understandibly confidence is at a low ebb at the moment not just amongst the supporters but the players and everyone else at the club.
So perhaps we should remind ourselves what a great club St Mirren is and recall the great memories most of us have over our lifetime when there were better days.
St Mirren are one of the oldest clubs in Scotland and are steeped in tradition. They have provided some of the greatest footballers over the decades and I have been a bit disappointed to see so many posts on this forum seemingly 'accepting' that we are just a small provincial club with very limited prospects for the future.
Let's shake off the current lethargy and pessimism and start supporting the Saints again. A negative attitude is not going to help us get out of the current situation.
We seem to have been out-supported at most home games this season, so starting with tomorrow's game against Partick Thistle (another great club with a similarly impressive history) let's get behind the team and the manager and hopefully we will soon turn the corner.

As excepted we accepted the ban.

Regrettably Jim has committed one-too-many brain-dead assaults imo especially when you take into account our current desperate injury list combined with the run of horrendous results and pwerformances. The time has finally arrived when the club should seriously review Jim's future with the club. This type of behaviour should not be tolerated for a player let alone a coach. However I won't be holding my breath in light of the total apathy and ineptness now hanging over those in charge at GHR.
He has been a good club servant and no doubt well respected for his playing ability and is a good guy to have in the dressing room - but only if you ignore his delinquent and imbecile behaviour on the pitch.
The BBC cannot be blamed for highlighting the behaviour of someone with Jim's past record of misdemeanours.

Regrettably Jim has committed one-too-many brain-dead assaults imo especially when you take into account our current desperate injury list combined with the run of horrendous results and pwerformances. The time has finally arrived when the club should seriously review Jim's future with the club. This type of behaviour should not be tolerated for a player let alone a coach. However I won't be holding my breath in light of the total apathy and ineptness now hanging over those in charge at GHR.
He has been a good club servant and no doubt well respected for his playing ability and is a good guy to have in the dressing room - but only if you ignore his delinquent and imbecile behaviour on the pitch.
The BBC cannot be blamed for highlighting the behaviour of someone with Jim's past record of misdemeanours.

Regrettably Jim has committed one-too-many brain-dead assaults imo especially when you take into account our current desperate injury list combined with the run of horrendous results and pwerformances. The time has finally arrived when the club should seriously review Jim's future with the club. This type of behaviour should not be tolerated for a player let alone a coach. However I won't be holding my breath in light of the total apathy and ineptness now hanging over those in charge at GHR.
He has been a good club servant and no doubt well respected for his playing ability and is a good guy to have in the dressing room - but only if you ignore his delinquent and imbecile behaviour on the pitch.
The BBC cannot be blamed for highlighting the behaviour of someone with Jim's past record of misdemeanours.

Regrettably Jim has committed one-too-many brain-dead assaults imo especially when you take into account our current desperate injury list combined with the run of horrendous results and pwerformances. The time has finally arrived when the club should seriously review Jim's future with the club. This type of behaviour should not be tolerated for a player let alone a coach. However I won't be holding my breath in light of the total apathy and ineptness now hanging over those in charge at GHR.
He has been a good club servant and no doubt well respected for his playing ability and is a good guy to have in the dressing room - but only if you ignore his delinquent and imbecile behaviour on the pitch.
The BBC cannot be blamed for highlighting the behaviour of someone with Jim's past record of misdemeanours.

Regrettably Jim has committed one-too-many brain-dead assaults imo especially when you take into account our current desperate injury list combined with the run of horrendous results and pwerformances. The time has finally arrived when the club should seriously review Jim's future with the club. This type of behaviour should not be tolerated for a player let alone a coach. However I won't be holding my breath in light of the total apathy and ineptness now hanging over those in charge at GHR.
He has been a good club servant and no doubt well respected for his playing ability and is a good guy to have in the dressing room - but only if you ignore his delinquent and imbecile behaviour on the pitch.
The BBC cannot be blamed for highlighting the behaviour of someone with Jim's past record of misdemeanours.

We are now detached from the rest in the bottom three.
Success this season will be escaping the big drop but that does not seem likely at this time.
Time to reflect how our standards have dropped in recent seasons.
Apathy is swamping Paisley.

We are now detached from the rest in the bottom three.
Success this season will be escaping the big drop but that does not seem likely at this time.
Time to reflect how our standards have dropped in recent seasons.
Apathy is swamping Paisley.

An alternative in the meantime would be to bring in a defensive coach to get the best out of what we've got.

Why all the pessimism and negativity - this isn't the Referendum debate?
We are already well on the way to achieving one of our principal aims for the season - GREATER CONSISTENCY.
Oh for the inconsistency of last season!

Why all the pessimism and negativity - this isn't the Referendum debate?
We are already well on the way to achieving one of our principal aims for the season - GREATER CONSISTENCY.
Oh for the inconsistency of last season!