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After much deliberating I've decided to vote no. A lot of what Kibble would bring to the table is commendable and would certainly help in aspects of the club, however concerning is the fact that this has been carved up without looking at other ways to get members more actively involved and also the structure of the deal.

I've been on other committees and always found that when the consequences of non-activity were laid out then people understood and came forward. I'll hold my hands up and say that I didn't come forward last twice as my other activities elsewhere wouldn't have meant that I had spare capacity to do anything. It seems underhand to have progressed as far as they have with the proposed deal without advising members we were considering looking for alternative options to the 71% model and also not to present any case around alternatives (ie other charities / organisations approached).

On the structure of the deal I'm not comfortable with what has been stated regarding number of seats and potential veto. The ability for material decisions, which may be in the financial best interests of the club, but at odds with the direction of Kibble, to be vetoed is not what I'd want from the board. The board have talked previously about putting financial sense ahead of the wishes of fans (Old Firm in Family Stand), but are now recommending a deal where shackles will be put on the ability to make directional decisions that could be profound for financial well-being.

After much deliberating I've decided to vote no. A lot of what Kibble would bring to the table is commendable and would certainly help in aspects of the club, however concerning is the fact that this has been carved up without looking at other ways to get members more actively involved and also the structure of the deal.

I've been on other committees and always found that when the consequences of non-activity were laid out then people understood and came forward. I'll hold my hands up and say that I didn't come forward last twice as my other activities elsewhere wouldn't have meant that I had spare capacity to do anything. It seems underhand to have progressed as far as they have with the proposed deal without advising members we were considering looking for alternative options to the 71% model and also not to present any case around alternatives (ie other charities / organisations approached).

On the structure of the deal I'm not comfortable with what has been stated regarding number of seats and potential veto. The ability for material decisions, which may be in the financial best interests of the club, but at odds with the direction of Kibble, to be vetoed is not what I'd want from the board. The board have talked previously about putting financial sense ahead of the wishes of fans (Old Firm in Family Stand), but are now recommending a deal where shackles will be put on the ability to make directional decisions that could be profound for financial well-being.

Never claimed to be, but thanks for the call-out.

And this was not a "SMISA bad" post, but rather let's get it right and make sure that the organisation and more importantly it's members are adequately protected

Just read the email that has arrived in connection with signing up for the new SMISA database. Thought I'd read the Privacy Policy that you are asked to accept. Point of notice on the Privacy Policy is that it doesn't address the new database within it, so this needs fixed before asking people to accept the policy if data is going to be held on systems/places that are different from prescribed

He played on the left of a back 3 group IIRC. We'd wingbacks on the outside of them for a number of games

Just watched back the goal from the game and was impressed with the late run into the box Durmus made today to score. The goal and the runs beyond Obika reminded me of what we saw regularly from Andy Dorman.

Just watched back the goal from the game and was impressed with the late run into the box Durmus made today to score. The goal and the runs beyond Obika reminded me of what we saw regularly from Andy Dorman.

Just watched back the goal from the game and was impressed with the late run into the box Durmus made today to score. The goal and the runs beyond Obika reminded me of what we saw regularly from Andy Dorman.

Just watched back the goal from the game and was impressed with the late run into the box Durmus made today to score. The goal and the runs beyond Obika reminded me of what we saw regularly from Andy Dorman.

Just watched back the goal from the game and was impressed with the late run into the box Durmus made today to score. The goal and the runs beyond Obika reminded me of what we saw regularly from Andy Dorman.

I have a season ticket in W2 and was in a comparable seat at Love Street for around 10 years before move. I'd be cheaper pay as you go as I miss games through the season but take the season ticket for the knowledge that I get a reasonable view when I'm there. If there is a move to make seats a free for all then there is no longer any benefit in a season ticket for me and would likely stop it, the club might get around the same money over the season but it wouldn't be a lump sum up front.

Pretty sure I read elsewhere he was German born so no work permit required for now (post Brexit no idea of the impacts for that). It's just the paperwork between the footballing authorities that is required.

Looks decent enough, like the first part where he has the same type of tenacity as John McGinn in constantly harrassessing opposition

8000 is the number for Category 4 stadium, however the rules permit Category 2 as acceptable (which is 1500 seats). So it's not the seats bit, some of the other stuff looks a bit challenging (toilets bizarrely might be a problem around number of cubicles, and things like additional camera gantry - although that could be temporarily added).
UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
UEFA Stadium Infrastructure Regulations
 

8000 is the number for Category 4 stadium, however the rules permit Category 2 as acceptable (which is 1500 seats). So it's not the seats bit, some of the other stuff looks a bit challenging (toilets bizarrely might be a problem around number of cubicles, and things like additional camera gantry - although that could be temporarily added).
UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations
UEFA Stadium Infrastructure Regulations
 

Makes perfect sense when you dissect it, but don't think I'd have been aware about it in the heat of the moment

Problem for Livi this season, setting aside debt for a moment, is that their squad which served them well over the last 3 years is now being asset stripped by other clubs. They are losing significant numbers of experienced pros (most on frees) who have been in all reality over-achieving with regards to the expenditure against them, and these are the players that were galvanised as a group over the years with a few additions each time.
Next season they require to do major surgery on a squad that was light to start with, paying way more money that they have on previous seasons against a budget that, whilst will have gone up against expectations, will be no better than 10th in the league (and likely be 11th or 12th). With the amount of recruitment needed they will either need to push boat out on 2-3 quality players and supplement with cheap journeymen hoping they find a gem, or more likely not be able to attract quality players and employ a scattergun approach hoping they can gel the squad quickly and repeat the success of the last couple of years minus the leaders they had 

Problem for Livi this season, setting aside debt for a moment, is that their squad which served them well over the last 3 years is now being asset stripped by other clubs. They are losing significant numbers of experienced pros (most on frees) who have been in all reality over-achieving with regards to the expenditure against them, and these are the players that were galvanised as a group over the years with a few additions each time.
Next season they require to do major surgery on a squad that was light to start with, paying way more money that they have on previous seasons against a budget that, whilst will have gone up against expectations, will be no better than 10th in the league (and likely be 11th or 12th). With the amount of recruitment needed they will either need to push boat out on 2-3 quality players and supplement with cheap journeymen hoping they find a gem, or more likely not be able to attract quality players and employ a scattergun approach hoping they can gel the squad quickly and repeat the success of the last couple of years minus the leaders they had 

Not a rumour, but see that the Dundee fullback Nathan Ralph is exercising a relegation clause to leave. About the only player in their side that impressed me

Makes perfect sense when you dissect it, but don't think I'd have been aware about it in the heat of the moment

I raised with SLO this morning. Away fans will be ejected was the response

I raised with SLO this morning. Away fans will be ejected was the response

Lots of Arabs seem to have got tickets for the family stand tomorrow

That the same fan in pink that was nazi saluting and got tossed out around half time and was seen being spoken to by police?

That the same fan in pink that was nazi saluting and got tossed out around half time and was seen being spoken to by police?