Stuart Dickson

I watched the DVD. 
Considering his ailments, he was fabulous entertainment and very funny. 
Still at the top. 

Yeah, it's on there. I nearly soiled my breeks laughing at his story about him giving money to the down-and-out in Toronto.

Hmmm, thats the second time I've heard this since I posed the question to Div. No rent, no licensing fee, nothing. I'm sure, if this is true, supporters who have been buying up official merchandise thinking that at least a portion of their money was going to the club will be mightily disappointed I reckon. Imagine a football club having signed away all income from official merchandising sales, then approaching the supporters association looking for a hand out to help pay wages. You'd think someone running the club would ensure all the clubs internal business was operating efficiently before going to the fans with a begging bowl - wouldn't you? 

Hmm, I wonder how I could have gotten it so wrong.....
Oh wait. I didn't

the club shop earns the club nothing, at least with Carrs the club get a payment, the arrangement with the shop would put mike ashley to shame.

No input from SMiSA on any of it, we are in the process of speaking to the people who organise all types of community events from the club, to find out ways we can assist them. With SMiSA being busy and the club also being busy it is not easy to get everyone round a table to make plans, so i'd ask that people be patient where that is concerned.
The club being able to put on matches on frosty Saturdays means they get more income than they do on re-arranged midweek games, and can put more money into the various budgets, and believe me the community projects are very much high on their lists, and SMiSA want to assist and bring new ideas. SMiSA has to engage with the club on this because we do not want to get in the way of their plans and need to sort that out before making plans of our own.
 

Jason Naismith could probably do a better job of trolling a fans forum.

It's a watertight scheme, worthy of the SFA Suits.
Under the current plans Motherwell 'colts' would not be in the new set-up, whereas Aberdeen could have such a team.
I wonder how those young teams would compare if they faced each other...?
 
If only we had some way of knowing...
http://www.sofascore.com/motherwell-u20-aberdeen-u20/xrpbsWrpb

That might work, if clubs like St Mirren weren't continually queuing up to sign players that get released by the Old Firm. It means that the likes of Celtic and Rangers can justifiably tell parents and kids that if things don't work out for them there at least they'll get a career elsewhere. 
I wasn't impressed with the Hutton signing, and I wasn't impressed with him as a player. However the stick he took was completely over the top, especially since the lad playing right next to him - Mallan - who in many of the games I watched was demonstrably worse - was getting such an easy ride from the same supporters. 

Kenny Morrison and David Riley were co-opted onto the SMISA committee just after the Director Election at the club

Not now the players union and HMRC has gotten involved Shull.

OK, so if the club is prudently run, with a wage budget way below the PWC ceiling, why the f**k does it need to ask SMiSA and it's membership for a £9k donation to pay one player £450 per week to save the club from relegation? What level of mismanagement if going on in the new St Mirren Ltd club board to make this cash grab so essential? 
The truth is Div, this is exactly like t-shirt and towelgate. You've got a football club board who are so grasping, so greedy and so needy that they see the whole SMiSA operation as a way of extracting more money from the support. And you've got a SMISA "board" so desperate for credibility from the football club board that they have been willing to drop their pants and take a right good shafting, even to the extent of manipulating the vote by excluding any other suggestion for funding off the vote. 

So which one of Kenny Morrison or David Riley has specialist skills and experience, was co-opted onto the board as an external director and can expect remuneration? What is their fixed period? And how many members of the current board were co-opted into their posts? 

This is how laughable SMiSA are. Even their own committee members don't understand their constitution.
SMISA Constitution for anyone wanting to read it without having to hunt for the single word link hidden away on the SMiSA website
Kenny, read page 2. What I call the SMISA Committee, is defined as "the board". Committee meetings are defined as "board meetings". And Committee Members are terms "directors". So for clarity you were co-opted onto the board of the 1877 Society, which is a Community Benefit Society, and as a "Director" of this society, you are supposed to be upholding the constitution. 
Now check out this
Yet you've got 13. The latest two - one of which is you - were co-opted onto the Society Board of Directors without any consultation with the membership and no minutes of meetings provided to explain why the Society have breached their own constitution. 
Zip back again to this
Has the Society conducted it's business for the benefit of the community served by the club? Has it achieved it's aim with an interest free loan to the £multi million business that is St Mirren FC, and with handing over money to contribute to players wages? 
I'm glad I resigned my membership. Imagine ever entrusting the current group of committee members with the running of St Mirren FC. By f**k they'd be hopeless. 

Where's Drew? I need to borrow an 'FFS'.
Last time I checked, every opponent we have faced in the Championship has run out our tunnel wearing football strips supplied by various companies. Fans of these clubs can buy these shirts and wear them.
We need a new supplier to perform such a role. We need to attract a primary shirt sponsor. We need to attract a new airdome sponsor, and maybe some new stadium advertising / branding once the JD adverts come down.
I am confident the new BoD can fix us up with the missing pieces.

There you go again. 
It's not the responsibility of SMiSA Members to pay players wages - particularly not if they are the only shareholders being asked to dig deep. If there isn't sufficient money in budgets for players and contracts then that is the fault of the chairman and the board of directors who would have sanctioned the spending of the budget to date. If a promising youngster passes through the clubs fingers as a result of the boards mismanagement then it's certainly not the SMiSA membership that is to blame. 

I could dig out the invoices.
The idea was that with a fixed deal with JD there was no risk, but that we could if we wanted (but making no specific profit on the strips) sell them at the Club shop / Take orders at the shop and bring them in. In doing it this way it would bring in much needed footfall to the shop which never made a contribution to the Club since the move until my time and sell other merchandise along side which the Club would make a big margin on.
 
The Shop was re-organised and stocked (the ticket office was now able to work behind the shop counter so that it could all be open) and we started, however i had funded the whole thing and after the first bash at it the Club/Staff did not continue to support it and i was unwilling to fund it personally, so matters were reversed and the shop did not really do anything until around the Cup final when IIRC SG got AP briefly back involved. 
There was a good opportunity to sort it all out but it was missed.
It balanced risk and reward.....zero risk on the really big income of the deal....but opportunity to up sell other items
Perhaps this time round it will be made to wrk
 
 
 

Yeah, you tried to 'like' a post of StuDick's. The message you are seeing is merely a default setting Div has built into the forum software.

There you go again. 
It's not the responsibility of SMiSA Members to pay players wages - particularly not if they are the only shareholders being asked to dig deep. If there isn't sufficient money in budgets for players and contracts then that is the fault of the chairman and the board of directors who would have sanctioned the spending of the budget to date. If a promising youngster passes through the clubs fingers as a result of the boards mismanagement then it's certainly not the SMiSA membership that is to blame. 

I'd imagine that the St Mirren board may well be hoping to rent the stadium out to the Rangers Colts side - just as the club did in 1999/00  Not that I'd support the idea of Colts playing senior football, but I'm being pragmatic. I think a number of club boards in the lower divisions would be fairly happy to entertain this as even if it meant away attendances of a couple of hundred thats much more than most clubs at that level bring to games with them anyway. I can't see them managing to sell it to many Championship and First Division clubs though, it's going to have little positive effect for them especially since it may well mean that Rangers and Celtic would be less likely to loan out players to clubs at those levels. 
The rest of the article seems a right mixed bag. I'd love it if football clubs were keen to encourage their players to take part in other sports as well as football. It's something I was involved in an encouraged at a local level here. We had Motherwell AC coaches at a number of our training sessions working on sprint training and technique and we could see immediate and obvious benefits. Other sides at Wishaw, including the one my son plays for now go to a kick boxing club once a week which has helped them massively particularly in the transition to amateur football. Theres loads of ways in which other sports can be used to get lessons across whilst also increasing participation and excersize. In reality though most clubs - particularly at Pro Youth level - are scared that letting their kids participate in other sports might see them lose them. 
More nutritional education is great, so long as it's done correctly but the SFA performance officer is going to have one hell of a job trying to sell to young kids the idea that they should be eating chicken pasta rather than Chicken Nuggets, and celery sticks instead of bars of chocolate. Parents have influence and control of course but even in school dinners kids are most likely to go for the unhealthy choice on the menu if it's available. 
And the idea of measuring the fat levels in kids aged 10 and 11 is just ridiculous. 

Aw right. So it's the responsibility of the Paisley public to turn up and watch St Mirren, and not the responsibility of St Mirren to give them a reason to want to part with £20 to watch shite football in the first place? 
Honestly the attitude of football fans is utterly bizarre. Football clubs are going to have to go out there and prove to the people of Paisley and beyond that they deserve their support. It doesn't work the other way round. Football clubs will need to get their fingers out and do some decent work around the local community for a change.

Aw right. So it's the responsibility of the Paisley public to turn up and watch St Mirren, and not the responsibility of St Mirren to give them a reason to want to part with £20 to watch shite football in the first place? 
Honestly the attitude of football fans is utterly bizarre. Football clubs are going to have to go out there and prove to the people of Paisley and beyond that they deserve their support. It doesn't work the other way round. Football clubs will need to get their fingers out and do some decent work around the local community for a change.

Loads of issues with this - but the full time one - why? 
What we are seeing right now is that professional football is unsustainable at many senior clubs never mind full time football. Clubs like St Mirren and Dundee have already fallen foul of the HMRC rules on minimum hourly rates of pay. Surely the sport needs to find a level where what it does is sustainable. Remember Welsh and Irish league football is semi pro - Dundalk on crowds smaller that those at St Mirren can get through to the Europa League sections and can win matches against more salubrious opposition. And Republic of Ireland, Wales and Northern Ireland all made the Euro Championships, and have a decent track record of supplying the English leagues with good quality high profile talent over the last 20 years, while Scotland has fallen away. 
We need to stop pretending our game is something it's not. Outside of Celtic I doubt any of the top Scottish sides could live in either of the top two tiers of English Football yet our clubs like to dream that they should be getting far bigger gates and a much larger slice of the TV money pie. It's bollocks and a bit of realism wouldn't go amiss. 

Fair comment!!!

Thought the club was brill yesterday, music really helped. Nice touch from the fans council to give out goody bags to all the kids.

The panini I had was also magnificent!

Look forward to the day the place is open to all, it really is great.