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    WeeBud reacted to Kombibuddie in St Mirren FC - Officially Majority Fan Owned Football Club   
    I know. The discussion has run it's course for me with Baz on this.
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    WeeBud reacted to Kombibuddie in St Mirren FC - Officially Majority Fan Owned Football Club   
    Baz,
    I hope you don't mind. I'm not reading your post in it's entirety. I too, can't be bothered. I was scrolling by & something caught my eye, hence a much shorter post than a dissemination of your whole post that started with the quote below.
    You really shouldn't have bothered as , 
    You clearly haven't understood
    When I said, "nothing has changed" I meant
    that Kibble would continue doing what they've been doing St Mirren FC would continue doing what they've been doing. SMiSA would continue doing what they've been doing. hence my comment about "not criticising" Kibble and saying "nothing has changed" related to all of the above and everyone else not mentioned, doing what they've been doing for the betterment of St Mirren Football Club.
    Your interpretation of my opinions is so far off the scale. You are making stuff up and it only exposes you as being someone who refuses to consider an other views.
    I didn't feel ridiculed by your misinterpretations & comments about "doomsday scenarios" that only fully exposes you for posting utter shite. You seem hellbent on arguing other viewpoints for the sake of it & your persistent misunderstanding of others opinions embarrasses you above anyone else.
    Do you clasp your hands with glee when you read someone else post & think "how can this be ripped apart and me make them sound like they hate St Mirren" That appears to be one of your favourite lines, people being anti St Mirren.
    I'd suggest you go back & re-read & try see if you can interpret properly, mine & others viewpoints before you wrongly jump all over them. It might help you understand better & enable other posters to start valuing some of what you post instead of thinking 'here Baz goes again' 
    I haven't read the rest of your post because I cannot be bothered responding to all your inaccuracies & misinterpretations (if the above quotes are a reflection of the content). The wheel can continue to turn and we can still discuss all things St Mirren or whatever. Sometimes we'll agree & other times we won't. I am fine with that.
    We ain't the chuckle brothers either, this isn't a game of to me to you.
    Have a nice day.
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    WeeBud got a reaction from faraway saint in The Olympics   
    I've watched a fair bit of the Olympics Coverage so far BinEk and one of the things that has impressed me most is the support and camaraderie that seems to exist in the less "elite" sports.....the encouragement and goodwill between athletes while watching the high jump, long jump and triple jump was fantastic. While watching their rivals compete the majority of the athletes were partaking in the rhythmic clapping that seems to go with these events in the absence of spectators, it was good to see.
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    WeeBud got a reaction from BuddieinEK in The capacity debacle   
    All good and pertinent questions Maboza and this is information that should "absolutely" be communicated to, at the very least, the 51% shareholders (SMiSA Members). It probably doesn't require to be a line by line, number by number sort of communication but it certainly should be a bit more than the "sketchy bollox" we have received so far. I take on board that there is a new Chairman in place and that the completion of "fan ownership" has just taken place but a lot of goodwill could be lost if this sort of issue isn't addressed quite quickly. 
    I don't think for a moment that all the current issues lie at the doors of Kibble and their involvement but I always felt the way that they were introduced and the fanfare of "business acumen and proper processes" that they would bring left them open to (possibly unfair) criticism when things go wrong. 
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    WeeBud got a reaction from faraway saint in The capacity debacle   
    All good and pertinent questions Maboza and this is information that should "absolutely" be communicated to, at the very least, the 51% shareholders (SMiSA Members). It probably doesn't require to be a line by line, number by number sort of communication but it certainly should be a bit more than the "sketchy bollox" we have received so far. I take on board that there is a new Chairman in place and that the completion of "fan ownership" has just taken place but a lot of goodwill could be lost if this sort of issue isn't addressed quite quickly. 
    I don't think for a moment that all the current issues lie at the doors of Kibble and their involvement but I always felt the way that they were introduced and the fanfare of "business acumen and proper processes" that they would bring left them open to (possibly unfair) criticism when things go wrong. 
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    WeeBud reacted to Maboza in The capacity debacle   
    Agreed. I’m not for a second having a pop at Kibble for the current failings at the club. I also recognise that we’re in a transition phase. 
     
    I also appreciate that we, as fans, don’t get all the line by line details about the operations of the football club. That’s the same under Stewart Gilmour’s board, as it was for Gordon Scott’s stewardship, as it now is for SMISA ownership from what we’re being told.  
     
    My only real point is that if Kibble operations are integrating into the club then we as average fans, or even SMISA shareholders don’t really know what’s happening and how it’s being driven. I guess the expectation is that we just trust our SMISA elected chairman man and other nominated directors and that’s it?! 
     
    What is the current breakdown of our board members? 
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    WeeBud got a reaction from BuddieinEK in The Olympics   
    I've watched a fair bit of the Olympics Coverage so far BinEk and one of the things that has impressed me most is the support and camaraderie that seems to exist in the less "elite" sports.....the encouragement and goodwill between athletes while watching the high jump, long jump and triple jump was fantastic. While watching their rivals compete the majority of the athletes were partaking in the rhythmic clapping that seems to go with these events in the absence of spectators, it was good to see.
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    WeeBud reacted to TPAFKA Jersey 2 in Livingston v St Mirren League Cup   
    Sorry mate, I wasn’t talking about those being the costs across the board. I was more talking about where we have outliers like Livi.
    Whilst I understand the principle of wanting to say “f**k you” to clubs that are taking the piss, if it meant not being able to see the game, I’d struggle to stand by that principle.
    That’s all I meant 👍
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    WeeBud reacted to Maboza in The capacity debacle   
    Out of interest, what roles are Kibble delivering? 
     
    I can’t say I know anything much beyond them having 2 (?) directors on the board, 27% shareholding, a veto, and some vague statements about us getting benefits from them delivering some operations. No idea what that means in terms of people, roles and financial arrangements. 
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    WeeBud reacted to FTOF in Speculation Thread   
    Maybe it's a typo and should be "Scot inbound".
    A fair chance of that being correct.
    There's a first time for everything.
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    WeeBud reacted to Yflab in St Mirren FC - Officially Majority Fan Owned Football Club   
    Hopefully he will follow in the footsteps of Oaky.
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    WeeBud reacted to Kombibuddie in St Mirren FC - Officially Majority Fan Owned Football Club   
    🤣🤣🤣
    If nothing else, you still make me laugh Baz but you're still spouting Utter shite
    "Doomsday scenarios" 🤣🤣🤣
    you've not changed one bit. 
    You'll keep believing the pish you spout & many will keep thinking 'utter pish' at what you post.
    And the wheel will keep on turning.
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    WeeBud got a reaction from FTOF in Effect of Coronavirus   
    FS
     
    We let out our cottage and the "recommendation" was/is that the occupants remove their owns sheets and bag it, if I remember correctly it is then not meant to come out of the bags for 48 hours or so....it's a pain in the arse for everyone but our cottage is in a fairly small community and if we failed to comply with the recommendation we wouldn't be able to get cleaners (even worse, we'd be the talk of the steamie!!)
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    WeeBud reacted to faraway saint in St Mirren FC - Officially Majority Fan Owned Football Club   
    In the interest of fairness Baz should do the same. 
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    WeeBud reacted to Kombibuddie in St Mirren FC - Officially Majority Fan Owned Football Club   
    Yes, you are assuming correctly. I was talking about the 50% cash reserves.
    I've already mentioned how the money could potentially be used. Who knows, stadium expansion in the future, could grow beyond filling in the corners or reconfiguring accessibility within the current stands (partitions/divides for accommodation of visiting supporters). If Tony Fitzpatricks aspirations for the club are matched by the majority shareholders (SMiSA) and minority shareholders (Kibble & all other shareholders (including myself)) and the home support continues to grow, who knows? There is a hope that St Mirren sell enough season tickets to support only giving rangers & celtic the North stand only. Why stop there? Enough season tickets to partition the North Stand to house home supporters too. 
    Tony's aspirations should not be limited to filling our 8000 seat stadium, let's go 1 step at a time & maybe one day, building a bigger stand (as crowds increase).
    & that £86K per season doesn't need to be spent for the sake of spending it (I said this a few years ago at the SMISA AGM regarding the £2 pot)
    I'm not saying Kibble should gift money, therefore not taking money out of the hands of a charity. Kibble done that all by themselves purchasing a 27% shareholding in a football club. As the majority shareholder, I am saying SMiSA shouldn't be gifting money or be expected to gift money without the other major shareholders being asked/expected too.
    As you have pointed out many times, St Mirren is "well run", the profits generated by The Club should cover all the day to day running costs as well as covering anticipated maintenance costs etc. If St Mirren choose to sign X player from Whoever FC, the club should be budgeting for that, not banking (pardon the pun) on SMiSA' cash reserves to fund it.
     
    I respect your right to have that opinion. I don't share your opinion.
     
    With a 51% stake in the club, SMiSA are the new Majority Shareholders not the new owners.
    If me & you bought a house together and I owned 51% of it, am I the owner or with you owning 49%, would we be joint owners? Using this analogy, would you expect me to foot the bill for all costs? No. Of course you wouldn't and neither would I if the % of ownership was switched. If the house rose in value & we sold it for double what we bought it for, how would it be divied up? Would you want to give up 49% of the profit if it was only your money that maintained the property (as majority owner)? Can you find me anyone who would?
    It appears that is SMiSA' plan (for now)
    As 27% shareholders, is Kibble not linked through ownership? that aside, the goals should be aligned however, as a business, every company should be self sufficient. I favour lending the money, interest free supports the club whilst maintaining SMiSA' cash reserves for big ticket items in the future that the club will need support to fund.
    SMiSA has a responsibility to it's members first & foremost. If the will of the members is to gift the money, that is what will happen. If the members will is to lend money, that is what should happen.
    All previous majority shareholders lent The Club money & had it paid back. There were other shareholders who lent money & had it paid back (well documented over the years. Some even re-mortgaged to keep the club going, I believe. All were paid back)
    Why do you think, as majority shareholders now, SMiSA should be gifting every penny to the club ("what else will it be spent on"? I don't agree with you on that
    Kibble' involvement was dressed up that both benefitted from each others services. Nothing has changed.,
    The majority shareholders are SMiSA & Kibble, Kibble has a proportion of their representatives on The Club's board of Directors, they chose to buy a 27% shareholding. No one (not even you) should be expecting them to be absolved of the responsibility their 27% shareholding brings.
    My opinion is, if St Mirren FC needs urgent funds, it could (subject to member approval) be provided by SMiSA by means of a loan. If it is suggested the funds required (or proportion of) are gifted, the other majority shareholders (Kibble or otherwise) should be contributing a proportionate amount according to their % of shareholding.
    Back to me & you buying that house analogy. One day, Kibble might decide, their investment in St Mirren FC has run it's course but SMiSA has bankrolled St Mirren from now until then and Kibble decide to sell. Do they sell at their purchase price? What their shares are worth on takeover day or do they ask for market value and ask for 27% of what St Mirren is worth at the time they decide to sell?
    Bottom line is, I am all in favour of SMiSA supporting St Mirren develop & grow. But not in favour of SMiSA as being treated like a cash cow.
    Enjoy your day Bas.
     
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    WeeBud reacted to faraway saint in Effect of Coronavirus   
    Flippin recommendations, it's all the council's fault. 
    Anyhow, it'll not spoil my holiday.....it's not even my department. 😆
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    WeeBud got a reaction from faraway saint in Effect of Coronavirus   
    FS
     
    We let out our cottage and the "recommendation" was/is that the occupants remove their owns sheets and bag it, if I remember correctly it is then not meant to come out of the bags for 48 hours or so....it's a pain in the arse for everyone but our cottage is in a fairly small community and if we failed to comply with the recommendation we wouldn't be able to get cleaners (even worse, we'd be the talk of the steamie!!)
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    WeeBud reacted to rabuddies in Effect of Coronavirus   
    Faraway, I think you will find that it's a recommendation from the Scottish Government rather than a way to hike the prices.  It's to protect cleaning staff or similar as most property owners live miles away from the property and use locals to do the service changeover.  We've already been on four self catering breaks and they all had the same instructions, two referred to "In line with Scottish Government guidelines".  If you were a regular self catering user (OOH Matron) you would have realised they haven't used Covid as an excuse. They've just put up the prices because they could, and by quite a bit at that.  
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    WeeBud reacted to faraway saint in Dundee v St Mirren SPFL PREMIERSHIP 31/7/21   
    This covers what you're trying to do here...............

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    WeeBud reacted to div in The capacity debacle   
    Interesting to see one of the journos suggesting that the relationship between the club and Renfrewshire Council is not particularly healthy right now. No reasons given why that might be but the inference is that the Council are quite happy to stiff us on the capacity issue.
    I did have some sympathy over the restrictions but having seen the crowd at Fir Park yesterday with large groups all sitting or standing side by side with no masks in sight it's very difficult to comprehend why we are being served such severe restrictions other than it being for petty political point scoring.
     
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    WeeBud reacted to Maboza in The capacity debacle   
    That opinion isn’t really up for debate though. The rules are in place until 9th Aug. 
     
    We need to concentrate on why our implementation of the rules seems inconsistent with other clubs who seem able to get more fans in. 
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    WeeBud reacted to guinness in St mirren v Hearts   
    f**k off
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    WeeBud reacted to FTOF in St mirren v Hearts   
    Why would you not check the official site or the Twitter for official announcements on matches?
    Are you wanting someone to come round to your door and tell you? Or notify you by carrier pigeon?
    No good sending e-mails, because apparently people don't check their e-mails all the time or even bother to look in their spam.
     
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    WeeBud reacted to faraway saint in St Mirren FC - Officially Majority Fan Owned Football Club   
    Thursday's winner of the IRONY gold medal is.................
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    WeeBud reacted to HSS in St mirren v Hearts   
    Seemingly the number of absentees at the Thistle game was in the hundreds What a bunch of selfish bastards 
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