beyond our ken

Neither Jay nor Brophy were threatening the Managers first XI..
With a 6 figure sum plus off the wage bill for EB and a useful development fee for Jay then from the outside it appears good business ...
I wish them both well but if 2 players had to hit the exit then these aren't the biggest losses 

Can you imagine, even for one second, that they weren't?

If you got to keep your dinner money
Frank Forsyth sorted  that whole thing out for me day one, 

Can we afford to replace Baccus with a player of similar quality?
If not, we are just perpetually chasing our tail.

no wise cracks but obviously a few sore ones

Haven't you seen the tanks, it's the "Z" factor

Bumped, this may be the point of the Wagner stunt today.  Portraying it as a reason to get out of Ukraine and face the "enemy" within with Putin and Prigozhin declaring victory over their own military

I think I always bought the most expensive property i could afford and in the long term it has worked.  I was encouraged to take that strategy by friends & family and we have been happy in the same house for 33 years now, though it is much changed and ready for anothe revamp.  
The effects of the tory plans in the early 90s led to my mortgage tripling in a week and i'd say it took 2 years to get over that despite massive government spending to stabilise the market for borrowers.  We just scraped through but some of my neighbours sold up or were repossessed, my son still talks about the time half his pals all but disappeared in a space of months.  Anybody else within 10 years of my age benefitted from that indirect support and that probably covers most of the posters on this thread
Best advice i would give is to consider either a current account mortgage or a pension-linked mortgage, if they are still available.  When you can get between 20 & 40% tax relief on anything you put in your pension then even the lack of growth in the financial markets will be negated.  I am lucky ebough to be at the peak of my earnings and able to take advantage of the pension tax relief
 
As for help, of course we should give it where it is needed, the alternative to buying a home is renting and the lack of availability of both new homes to purchase and good quality rented stock is not the fault of those seeking to get started.  Many of us are sitting on massive gains made on purchases made decades ago and many others are relying on a tight market to fund their own lifestyles.  All of that is making it hard for young families to get decent and appropriate housing.
I was out of work for many months in the early 80s and finally got a permanent job that paid enough to live on because the company got a big slice of my first year's salary back from the Thatcher government and despite my feelings about her I was mighty glad of it.  The rent rebate that i was getting on my council house was continued until the end of the financial year which was another 10 months and within 2 years  i was suddenly & unexpectedly in the position to be able to buy our own place on just one wage, I had to sell my car to do so and forego most of my journeys to Love st for a couple more years but without that help I would never have got going in life.  
If you are getting any kind of tax relief on pensions or other investments, home insulation grants, or a range of other programmes then you are getting "help" that families who might have 2 full time earners and still struggle may not get, so let's not kid ourseves that we don't get help.  We all do!

More down to the resilience that the UK governments took out of the economy after the  crash and Tory austerity.  Things are being portrayed as better than they are by the government, but they fail to mention the very low base we have been on for years and if you look at that we going to be worse off for longer than people in many other countries.
 
I have always taken the view that we will be OK in the long run but struggle to see how I could sell that to younger people today

He also went apeshit at Tynecastle one night where he kicked, punched, spat and generally fought with several Hearts players and stamped on a player's leg.  As i said he was wound up but he went way beyond an acceptable response

He was rumoured, a very strong rumour at the time, to have worked his ticket for a free after being tapped by Fergie

Fraser Wishart turned out to be a first-class administrator at the PFA

But not St Mirren?
Still a raw talent when he left us, but how many kids left a team like Saints and all but walked into Leeds 1st team?  even Jordan had to bide his time a little longer.   As a youngster he was was more than able for the experienced players he played with and against. I remember being behind the Love st end goals after he ran just about the whole length of the pitch with the ball, as the opposition backed of ALL the way from the centre to the 6 yard box,  to thrash the ball in the net so hard they had to peg the net again,  before turning and berating his team mates for not getting sruck in in the same way.
I don't think there was a Saints player in my life that turned out to be better than big Gordon, although Bobby Reid would arguably have been better.
What a player & what a man.

But not St Mirren?
Still a raw talent when he left us, but how many kids left a team like Saints and all but walked into Leeds 1st team?  even Jordan had to bide his time a little longer.   As a youngster he was was more than able for the experienced players he played with and against. I remember being behind the Love st end goals after he ran just about the whole length of the pitch with the ball, as the opposition backed of ALL the way from the centre to the 6 yard box,  to thrash the ball in the net so hard they had to peg the net again,  before turning and berating his team mates for not getting sruck in in the same way.
I don't think there was a Saints player in my life that turned out to be better than big Gordon, although Bobby Reid would arguably have been better.
What a player & what a man.

But not St Mirren?
Still a raw talent when he left us, but how many kids left a team like Saints and all but walked into Leeds 1st team?  even Jordan had to bide his time a little longer.   As a youngster he was was more than able for the experienced players he played with and against. I remember being behind the Love st end goals after he ran just about the whole length of the pitch with the ball, as the opposition backed of ALL the way from the centre to the 6 yard box,  to thrash the ball in the net so hard they had to peg the net again,  before turning and berating his team mates for not getting sruck in in the same way.
I don't think there was a Saints player in my life that turned out to be better than big Gordon, although Bobby Reid would arguably have been better.
What a player & what a man.

i know, i had already taken my meds

That is not certain, if the investigation concludes without any charges being laid then who has been living in a glass house?
there is as distance to travel yet before that kind of assertion can be viewed as anything more than gleeful  wishful thinking.

It would all be down to the articles that governed the CEO position, was that kind of discretionary purchase within the remit given that the money was supposedly raised for a non-specified campaign?  I'd think that they would already have laid charges if it was that clear cut.  If the money was clearly ring-fenced then there would at least have been a case for unsavoury, and possibly but not necessarily, illegal behaviour.
But after years of investigation I would have thought that any evidence of this would already have led to charges.  It is entirely possible that the only wrongdoing that is found will be around a failure to control purchase cards and framework accounts at suppliers.

Very much a saints fan, he was mascot aged 6 at a game v Rangers in 1989

A soon-to-be cult classic is now coming to the screen
Tickets are now on sale for the first screening of this new independent movie, made in the West of Scotland
The Labyrinth + Q&A | CCA Glasgow (cca-glasgow.com)
 
I may be biased as my son is one of the two main characters, but it looks and sounds amazing

Nope, it is a bit arty but very emotionally charged

A soon-to-be cult classic is now coming to the screen
Tickets are now on sale for the first screening of this new independent movie, made in the West of Scotland
The Labyrinth + Q&A | CCA Glasgow (cca-glasgow.com)
 
I may be biased as my son is one of the two main characters, but it looks and sounds amazing

It's more likely to get an airing on a TV channel post-watershed.  His profile is starting to pick up now, he made a movie with these guys (my son is the one in the baby oil) Channel Hex - YouTube which is looking better than expected and will be getting touted for movie channels once the sequel is in the can and is also in talks with the BBC around a series he has written set in a Glasgow blues bar that he would also feature in.  The BBC are picking up the tab for script and character development over the summer so there are hopes for some real traction out of that.  He was invited back to be featured in the second series of The Rig on Prime, but the fee was too small to warrant cancelling his  holiday.  These things can slip though, so he night yet be able to take that one.

It's more likely to get an airing on a TV channel post-watershed.  His profile is starting to pick up now, he made a movie with these guys (my son is the one in the baby oil) Channel Hex - YouTube which is looking better than expected and will be getting touted for movie channels once the sequel is in the can and is also in talks with the BBC around a series he has written set in a Glasgow blues bar that he would also feature in.  The BBC are picking up the tab for script and character development over the summer so there are hopes for some real traction out of that.  He was invited back to be featured in the second series of The Rig on Prime, but the fee was too small to warrant cancelling his  holiday.  These things can slip though, so he night yet be able to take that one.

A soon-to-be cult classic is now coming to the screen
Tickets are now on sale for the first screening of this new independent movie, made in the West of Scotland
The Labyrinth + Q&A | CCA Glasgow (cca-glasgow.com)
 
I may be biased as my son is one of the two main characters, but it looks and sounds amazing