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I had to laugh at a quote from Nick Clegg

"We want to be great Britain,not little England"

how to really endear the welsh and Northern Irish

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Nick Clegg................that has to be the most significant thing that the 'King Maker' has ever said. If ever there was a reason to dislike politicians, he's the reason

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BTW your obsession with lizzie is getting to the stage where you'll be drinking in castle street, not the bull inn next time you visit tongue.png

I doubt the Castle Street crowd would approve of take on the Monarchy.

I have been berated many a time in the past for refusing to stand for The Queen.

My arse has the calluses to prove it. :rolleyes:

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Not unless you want to pay my admission....rolleyes.gif

Ah, you're back.

Quoting articles off Nationalist websites is like having a German quote sections of Mein Kampf. rolleyes.gif

Still not explaining this post though?

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That one seemed believable till I got to this bit.. lol.gif

One scenario being taken seriously is pre-arranged “face-offs”, modelled on the film Braveheart, between rival militias who it is feared could travel to towns such as Gretna Green and Berwick-upon-Tweed for weekend showdowns

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Can't say I'm at all surprised.

THIS is the madness that will cause Eck to lose in September.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/01/scotland-driving-on-right-independence-road-scheme

Must be true - it's from the same paper that brought you the leaking currency minister.... smile.png

That could be a good april fool if it hadnt already been done, seriously, by Andy Burnham (labour westminster shadow cabinet) a couple of months ago.

The torygraph reported it -

Motorists would have to drive on the right and present their passports at the Border if Scotland becomes independent, Mr Burnham added.
Mr Burnham told Holyrood Magazine: “I would feel really genuinely sad if Scotland votes for independence, not just for our own self-interest and in the extra difficulty we would face getting a Labour government in England but I also don’t want to drive up the M6 and get my passport out or have to drive on the right when I want to drive on the left.”
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He was asked for his personal opinion and offered it. And has restated it's his personal opinion. Of course, he is naive... as his words will be twisted to suit A political perspective.

Naughty Slash - you've given Dixon another opportunity to lambast natsi's (spelling?) for threatening businesses...

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I heard today that the founder of Barrhead Travel issued an anti-Yes memo to his staff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26818227

Never used them in the past and certainly won't consider them in future.

Could you imagine being told how to vote by your employer in General Election?

Why should this be different?

We are part of a global marketplace. If he is so concerned about his business being affected then adapt to change.

Anyway why the hell would someone in England and Ireland want to travel to Barrhead?

His justification was that he had been asked by a few employees what his position was in respect of the referendum, so he decided to issue a letter to some 800 employees explaining to them that, in his view, independence would be a disaster for the business.

How thoughtful of him....dry.png

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Every time a global organisation or a relatively small company says anything even remotely a plus factor for the Yes campaign, it gets crowed all over the shop including on this forum. Sauce for the goose. It strikes me that the travel business might have some worries about currency and exchange rates to face in the future. Hypothetical at the moment but a prudent employer has to look forward and plan.

Only another five and a half months to go.

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I heard today that the founder of Barrhead Travel issued an anti-Yes memo to his staff.

Don't think it's really any worse than doing it through the media TBH.

If he wants to continue lining his pockets with the minimum of hassle, then he's entitled to do so.

Let's face it, he's not going to be affected negatively by welfare crack downs or London centric business policies designed to make business leaders even richer than they already are.

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Don't think it's really any worse than doing it through the media TBH.

If he wants to continue lining his pockets with the minimum of hassle, then he's entitled to do so.

Let's face it, he's not going to be affected negatively by welfare crack downs or London centric business policies designed to make business leaders even richer than they already are.

Perhaps he is , just a poor , wee , nervous throbber. .

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No matter whether he's for or against independence, sending his views on an email to all employees is poor.

Having seen a copy of it posted on twitter, it was also a spectacular piece of nonsense.

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Perhaps he is , just a poor , wee , nervous throbber. .

Looks like there's a fair bit of sphincter twitching happening amongst the "No" camp as the BT propagandists continue to further the "Yes" cause with their lies and negativity.

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Reprimand for inappropriate use of company resources.

It his ball and his rules and I respect that. However I don't think it is right for him to advise people how to vote.

I would imagine he has lost more customers than he has gained through this action.

As a Barrhead punter would say "Feck um".

Whilst that is true , it is going to be a rather more monumental vote (in terms of change ) , say to just a UK general election , where , whether you were to vote New Labour Party or Conservative and Unionist Party , which to vote for either would produce very , very little change , whatsoever. .

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He was asked for his personal opinion and offered it. And has restated it's his personal opinion. Of course, he is naive... as his words will be twisted to suit A political perspective.

Naughty Slash - you've given Dixon another opportunity to lambast natsi's (spelling?) for threatening businesses...

According to history companies who's owners became members of the National Socialist party received the biggest contracts from the German state. The modern day Nationalist Socialists would have you believe that they too can wield similar power over companies who don't toe the socialist Nationalists party line. Threats of boycotts by the SNP equivalent of the Brown Shirts in a bid to silence dissenting views doesn't bode well for our collective freedom.

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According to history companies who's owners became members of the National Socialist party received the biggest contracts from the German state. The modern day Nationalist Socialists would have you believe that they too can wield similar power over companies who don't toe the socialist Nationalists party line. Threats of boycotts by the SNP equivalent of the Brown Shirts in a bid to silence dissenting views doesn't bode well for our collective freedom.

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According to history companies who's owners became members of the National Socialist party received the biggest contracts from the German state. The modern day Nationalist Socialists would have you believe that they too can wield similar power over companies who don't toe the socialist Nationalists party line. Threats of boycotts by the SNP equivalent of the Brown Shirts in a bid to silence dissenting views doesn't bode well for our collective freedom.

With all due respect Stuart, constant harping about pre-war Germany has nothing to do with this debate.

Now if you had been referencing the 'brown trousers' of the BT campaign as they realise scare tactics aren't working, then I'd say bicycle clips are in desperate need.

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With all due respect Stuart, constant harping about pre-war Germany has nothing to do with this debate.

The reason for keeping a record of events in history isn't for our entertainment, it's for us to learn from to ensure we don't make the same mistakes. In Scotland we have a large minority of our population who repeating the mistakes from German history whether it's blindly and unquestioningly accepting the Nationalist propaganda as fact or whether it is in terms of trying desperately to silence opposing voices and suppressing free speech. The good news for Scotland is that it is a minority and the rest of the country has spotted it for what it is. Scotland will still be a part of the UK post referendum and the Yes Campaign will eventually go down as one of the worst campaigns ever fought. Lets just hope the Natsi's accept democratic will and that we don't see a Scottish Kristalnacht

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What would happen to an employee if he or she sent a message to every colleague that independence is good for scotland?

The question you are obviously ignoring is what would happen if an EMPLOYER sent a message to every colleague saying Yes is the way he would vote cos it makes 'sense'.

The answer, of course, is NOTHING. And rightly, too. He would only be offering his mere, and legal, opinion.

And immediatelyhis business and it's prospects get threatened.

THAT is why I knew Herr Dixon would have the open goal he has gladly exploited.

With all due respect Stuart, constant harping about pre-war Germany has nothing to do with this debate.

It may appear overkill with his constancy, but he has more point than the YES hysterics on here who'd abuse everyone with a contrary opinion.

In the past I was constantly depressed by every Election that Thatcher won. I couldn't understand why most of my neighbours could fail to see the "illogic and immorality" underpinning her views. It took a while to get over the losses.

Elections can be won as well as lost. Be prepared.

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