saintnextlifetime Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 the similarities with my other aliases are striking FIFY. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Always loved that saying. That ... is ... class. That would be hilarious ... but it will be the egg man (coo coo ca choo) on his irn bru crate, probably. There will belong faces all round if it is Murphy Talked so much "pony" on his crate tour that he ended up looking and sounding a little hoarse (said with a paisley accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Watch her debating, and her style is to shout. You've clearly got the nat specs firmly strapped on though, fair enough. You thought Yes was going to win, didn't you? Meanwhile, back in the real world. That would be the world where Tommy Craig is a success then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Unionist UKIP supporting whores. Scenes. Total meltdown.. Edited October 25, 2014 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Speaking of joke figures, hi Oaky. ' 65 - 35 yes, you heard it here first ' ' there's no way 1 million Scots will vote no ' : : : : Who said Salmond was hated incidentally? I am a fan of his, I think he's a great politician. FFS are you 14 years old? 2 million. I said there's no way 2 million will shite their pants and vote No. Sadly I can't control the bowel movements of half the country. BTW do you still think No has won and that this is all over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykey Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Big Gordy out of retirement, lying Jim Murphy (MP for Expenses and second homes) or Anas Sarwar. It's not exactly inspiring is it? Although Johann herself wasn't exactly a votewinner either but it'll be even harder now after campaigning for 2 years to be controlled by westminster only to complain when it's over that you can't stand your party being controlled by westminster, so it's good enough for you lot just not for me. hypocrite. Edited October 26, 2014 by Mykey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 FFS are you 14 years old? 2 million. I said there's no way 2 million will shite their pants and vote No. Sadly I can't control the bowel movements of half the country. BTW do you still think No has won and that this is all over? I'm not 14 no. If I was, would that be a problem? No you didn't. You're not going to make me look for this quote are you? You absolutely said 1 million. It was one of several disasters on the referendum thread for you. You made quite the clown of yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a50lennyc Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 http://www.debtbombshell.com/ You really don't understand the difference between the debt and the deficit, do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Labour will need to pull of something quite spectacular to turn things around before the election. I don't think they will. The SNP should be aiming to take 35 seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 You really don't understand the difference between the debt and the deficit, do you You really don't understand the difference between the debt and the deficit, do you You keep yapping on about deficit and totally ignoring the fact UK debt is rising by every second. When Oil goes down to $70.00 a barrel you deficit will be harder to work but don't let that get in the way of national debt rising by the second. Suppose you are self employed and like everyone in Westminster don't see debt as long as we can work under deficit then we are ok. Me I came from a background that say's debt is a real problem weather that be in a household budget or in this case government. Sadly people like yourself and the government live under bits of paper with figures on them. Our country needs to get real on the bottom line , national debt. Bring that down and we might just see a fairer system but very much doubt that when money to people like you is only figures in black and white ,a bit like bankers and casino players in the stock exchange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Labour will need to pull of something quite spectacular to turn things around before the election. I don't think they will. The SNP should be aiming to take 35 seats. Is that all , 35 ? I reckon 40. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsbury Bud Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Labour's commitment to 'the vow' was their public concession that Scotland should be governing more of its own affairs. Since publishing this commitments they've submitted the weakest proposals for further autonomy and then summoned the general secretary of the Scottish party to London to be sacked, without consultation with the Scottish party. As things stand its difficult not to conclude that Labour only want Scotland in the Union for the continued block of MPs to sit at Westminster, the opinion (democratic structure) of the Scottish party is an academic concern, at best. Voting Labour in a Scottish seat will encourage them to continue to use the Scottish party as a 'branch office'. If Milliband hasn't got distance from the general secretary being sacked, he could be out before the general election. While Lamont was completely out of her depth, the skulduggery to force her resignation is a tawdry episode. Without any radical instincts, and with centralisation and Unionism at their heart they've lost my vote. Edited October 26, 2014 by Bloomsbury Bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Wait a minute, are people really suggesting that the SNP will take over 30 seats in May? : Charity wager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Wait a minute, are people really suggesting that the SNP will take over 30 seats in May? : Charity wager? The general election in 2010 had a 63% turnout in scotland with the snp second to labour in most seats they did not win. Surely most can see the momentum is with the snp, and given their huge increase in party membership, coupled with a swell in popular support added to the complete disconnect with westminster parties will probably see a significant swing to the snp and the possibility they could??? Sweep the board! If they return 30+ seats come next May, that would see them as the party everyone would want as a coalition partner! Oh the irony of a no vote putting the power of UK politics in the hands of a scottish political party..! You'll see a different feckin BBC then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 The general election in 2010 had a 63% turnout in scotland with the snp second to labour in most seats they did not win. Surely most can see the momentum is with the snp, and given their huge increase in party membership, coupled with a swell in popular support added to the complete disconnect with westminster parties will probably see a significant swing to the snp and the possibility they could??? Sweep the board! If they return 30+ seats come next May, that would see them as the party everyone would want as a coalition partner! Oh the irony of a no vote putting the power of UK politics in the hands of a scottish political party..! You'll see a different feckin BBC then! So, charity wager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsbury Bud Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Wait a minute, are people really suggesting that the SNP will take over 30 seats in May? : : : Charity wager? I'd also doubt the SNP taking 30 seats, 20 strikes me as much more likely. The Labour majorities in most Scottish seats will need some big reverses to move to the SNP, folk need to bear in mind that Scotland didn't vote in favour of independence, despite all Labour's issues the parts of Scotland most inclined to independence face a challenge to overturn the majorities being talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'd also doubt the SNP taking 30 seats, 20 strikes me as much more likely. The Labour majorities in most Scottish seats will need some big reverses to move to the SNP, folk need to bear in mind that Scotland didn't vote in favour of independence, despite all Labour's issues the parts of Scotland most inclined to independence face a challenge to overturn the majorities being talked about. It's absolute lunacy to suggest they will get 30 frankly. They have 6 just now FFS. They also lost the referendum, the vast, vast majority of labour voters voted no and will continue to vote labour. The minority who voted yes will come back to labour to get the Tories out. Their hatred of the Conservatives will outweigh any desire they have to see more pointless SNP MP's in Westminster. As such, SNP's biggest supporter up here next year will be David Cameron. If Labour don't get their usual 40 odd seats then they have next to no chance of winning the election. A vote for the SNP in May in a marginal race with Labour is effectively a vote for the Tories. In reality the SNP will do well to get 12 seats, doubling their current holding. 30 though? Jeez, that's the most ridiculous political prediction I've heard since people said yes was going to win the referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsbury Bud Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 It's absolute lunacy to suggest they will get 30 frankly. They have 6 just now FFS. They also lost the referendum, the vast, vast majority of labour voters voted no and will continue to vote labour. The minority who voted yes will come back to labour to get the Tories out. Their hatred of the Conservatives will outweigh any desire they have to see more pointless SNP MP's in Westminster. As such, SNP's biggest supporter up here next year will be David Cameron. If Labour don't get their usual 40 odd seats then they have next to no chance of winning the election. A vote for the SNP in May in a marginal race with Labour is effectively a vote for the Tories. In reality the SNP will do well to get 12 seats, doubling their current holding. 30 though? Jeez, that's the most ridiculous political prediction I've heard since people said yes was going to win the referendum. Thanks. Please note my 'guess' is 20 and not 30. I don't believe my statement was lunacy, it was a guess. Please be a little more mannerly it isn't difficult, we all have St Mirren in common using intemperate phrases like 'lunacy' isn't good forum etiquette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Thanks. Please note my 'guess' is 20 and not 30. I don't believe my statement was lunacy, it was a guess. Please be a little more mannerly it isn't difficult, we all have St Mirren in common using intemperate phrases like 'lunacy' isn't good forum etiquette. If the term 'lunacy' offends you flower, internet forums aren't for you. If you actually read my post, you'll see the lunacy comment refers to the posters above who were predicting over 30 seats for the SNP in May. Which is absolutely what that is. Your prediction of 20 is wildly optimistic, but not lunacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 It's absolute lunacy to suggest they will get 30 frankly. They have 6 just now FFS. They also lost the referendum, the vast, vast majority of labour voters voted no and will continue to vote labour. The minority who voted yes will come back to labour to get the Tories out. Their hatred of the Conservatives will outweigh any desire they have to see more pointless SNP MP's in Westminster. As such, SNP's biggest supporter up here next year will be David Cameron. If Labour don't get their usual 40 odd seats then they have next to no chance of winning the election. A vote for the SNP in May in a marginal race with Labour is effectively a vote for the Tories. In reality the SNP will do well to get 12 seats, doubling their current holding. 30 though? Jeez, that's the most ridiculous political prediction I've heard since people said yes was going to win the referendum. Are you seriously saying multi millionaire leader of the working class party (labour ) Ed Miliband is electable do you seriously believe that ? Surly even you comprehend the only reason SNP got the majority vote in the last general election was because we were getting a Tory government. You will get a Ukip-Tory government in the next election because they will join together. The people of Scotland will again vote SNP for this very reason. You say you voted SNP at the last election TC but you sound very much labour in your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 So, charity wager? Ok £10 charity wager, what are the terms? SNP to take 20 or over seats... Aye or Naw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'll cut out the middleman (SNP) and just vote Conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Are you seriously saying multi millionaire leader of the working class party (labour ) Ed Miliband is electable do you seriously believe that ? Surly even you comprehend the only reason SNP got the majority vote in the last general election was because we were getting a Tory government. You will get a Ukip-Tory government in the next election because they will join together. The people of Scotland will again vote SNP for this very reason. You say you voted SNP at the last election TC but you sound very much labour in your posts. I don't know where to start with that. It's quite clear you don't really know what you're talking about. Because of the FPTP system the majority vote is almost irrelevant in the general election. The current count for Scottish seats in Westminster is Labour 41, the Lib Dems 11 and the SNP in third place with a whopping 6. That will change next year. The Tories will make gains in Scotland, it's possible they could get 4 or 5. The Lib Dems will lose 5 or so seats and the SNP will gain about 5. Labour will probably stay roughly the same, maybe lose a couple. There is absolutely no chance, nilch, nada that the UKIP will be involved in any coalition. They will get less seats than the SNP and Plaid Cymru. They will be lucky to get 5 seats. FPTP has it's flaws, but it keeps crackpots like UKIP out. A particularly honest yes voter on PNB recently admitted that talk of a Tory-UKIP coalition was scaremongering by the yes voters, I can get you the quote if you desire. He's telling the absolute truth. Anyone who thinks UKIP is going to get in a coalition government doesn't understand the voting system. What does me thinking if Ed Miliband is electable make a difference? I'm more likely to vote Conservative than Labour, for what it's worth. Next years election will be close, there probably won't be a majority again. Who will win? I don't know, Labour certainly have a decent chance, but I hope they lose. However, the campaign message from Labour in Scotland will be clear next year: ' If you want to keep the Tories, vote SNP, if you want them out, vote Labour ' It's completely accurate of course, and that message will resonate with Tory hating Scots. That's why Labour will comfortably win the General Election in Scotland. As they always do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Ok £10 charity wager, what are the terms? SNP to take 20 or over seats... Aye or Naw? I noticed you've went down from 30 to 20... But yes, there's no way they will take more than 19. Wager is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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