How The Natsi's Work - From The Inside

[DougJamie]

Hat fits obviously

[shull]

Wrang Thread

[sally02]

What a load of shite and you totally miss the mark even in terms of timing. Lets take the North East England from your examples - since it's the most topical in the news today with Nissan announcing a £100m investment in their Sunderland plant with the new Nissan Juke to be manufactured there. Nissan was attracted to the UK in 1984 by the Thatcher government. Since then they've gone on to build a record number of cars in a year for any UK car manufacturer. According to their press release they build 500,000 cars there last year with their Qashqai, Juke, Note and Leaf models continuing to sell very well across Europe. There's also been massive investment in Doxford near Sunderland with companies like EE and EDF Energy all having been major employers there since the International Business Park was opened in 1992 after investment from the Thatcher Government. Then there's all the major Public Service employers who provide some 22% of all the jobs in the North East of England in departments like the Child Maintenance Service and HMRC and I'm only scratching the surface of the huge number of jobs that have been created in that region since the coal mines shut.

Even your assumptions from the article are flawed. Manufacturing in the UK needs people buying their products and the problems faced by manufacturing was put into sharp focus by Mary Portas in a TV programme a couple of years ago. She believed that with costs rising in China that she could prove that UK manufacturing could be cheaper and more profitable for employers and to prove the point she reopened a sewing factory making lace knickers - brand "Kinky Knickers" - that would be made from scratch using only UK suppliers. She employed her workforce - all long term unemployed. She trained them on minimum wage using available government grants and she found retailers ready and willing to sell their products in huge numbers. So popular was the idea that she secured a massive first run order and had the factory working flat out to meet the demand. Indeed the knickers sold out within days at £10 per pair - a price point to compete with the likes of the David Beckham brand whose manufacturing is done in China. It looked like a success story until Portas reviewed what they had achieved and frankly the knickers weren't going to be profitable in year two when many of the government grants would expire. She went back to her retailers and asked them to buy a second run of orders at £15 per pair - they did but in smaller numbers. The programme ended at that point.

A check on the internet shows the brand still exists and is still in business which is fantastic. Their website - which sells direct to the public cutting out the retailer - is still selling the knickers at £15 per pair. Thongs have been added to the range at a cost of £9 per pair. But the question still exists, if that is the price point that makes the company profitable paying minimum wage only, how can UK manufacturing compete with the price point of "designer" items imported from China and selling in high street retailers for less than half the price? Unless all of us in the UK see "Made In The UK" as a premium product that we are prepared to seek out and pay extra for how is the manufacturing industry ever going to be profitable when we move from minimum wage to living wage over the next few years.

How much do you pay for your knickers Sally?

You are one sad person!

[Ayrshireman]

Horrible anti Scottish right wing bufoon, never heard so much sh-te coming out anyones mouth like this for a long time. He should be ignored idiot of the highest order.

[Ayrshireman]

Wrong party Stuart the BNP and UKIP are recruiting, Ruth Davidson would recoil in anger and anguish that a member of her party would spout such views

[oaksoft]

And 83, 87 and 92. Indeed it took till this year for the SNP, for the first time ever, to get more Scottish votes than Thatcher did in 1979.

Utterly irrelevant.

The woman isn't alive and you are living in the past.

This is 2015 and the SNP are currently pissing all over every other political party in the country.

TBH I have no idea what your point is but you are so busy peering into the past that you are not spotting the SNP juggernaut bearing down on you.

The Holyrood and Westminster maps are currently both entirely yellow.

Deal with it.

Or not.

WGAS TBH.

[barney]

Older stories, but more evidence of the sinister Natsi operation around the country

In Edinburgh

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-accused-using-intimidation-tactics-5186824

In Dumfries

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3071622/Fears-voting-Scotland-disrupted-intimidating-SNP-supporters-plan-arrive-late-follow-counting-staff-police-issue-warnings-polling-stations.html

In Glasgow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11529177/The-bullying-behind-the-SNPs-smiles.html

interesting choice of newspapers to quote from. What did the Beano have to say about all this outrageous, life changing bullying?

[cambiebud]

You can say what you want and you can phrase it however you like.

It's not going to change the fact that independence is coming sooner rather than later.

After a Yes vote it simply won't matter how much you bash your gums - we'll have got the independence we wanted.

Maybe our Wishaw friend will want to leave the country if and when it comes to pass. That would be a real shame

[The Real Zippy]

Utterly irrelevant.

The woman isn't alive and you are living in the past.

This is 2015 and the SNP are currently pissing all over every other political party in the country.

TBH I have no idea what your point is but you are so busy peering into the past that you are not spotting the SNP juggernaut bearing down on you.

The Holyrood and Westminster maps are currently both entirely yellow.

Deal with it.

Or not.

WGAS TBH.

And turned a blind eye to paedophilia within her own party.

[BuddieinEK]

Interesting.

Staying neutral in this thread, i find it fascinating that a genuine concern shared in public by a long standing SNP member and supporter... once shared on here... has somply resulted on the majority rounding on the OP.

Seems like a playground where everyone gangs up on the one kid who was brave enough to stand against the crowd and tell the teacher of a wrongdoing he suspected.

[FTOF]

Interesting.

Staying neutral in this thread, i find it fascinating that a genuine concern shared in public by a long standing SNP member and supporter... once shared on here... has somply resulted on the majority rounding on the OP.

Seems like a playground where everyone gangs up on the one kid who was brave enough to stand against the crowd and tell the teacher of a wrongdoing he suspected.

Pull the other one. It's got bells on it.

[Stuart Dickson]

Utterly irrelevant.

The woman isn't alive and you are living in the past.

This is 2015 and the SNP are currently pissing all over every other political party in the country.

TBH I have no idea what your point is but you are so busy peering into the past that you are not spotting the SNP juggernaut bearing down on you.

The Holyrood and Westminster maps are currently both entirely yellow.

Deal with it.

Or not.

WGAS TBH.

Did the Lib Dems conquer England? Did I miss it? I was pretty sure that the party that won the last election were the Conservatives. After all David Cameron is Prime Minister.

[Stuart Dickson]

Interesting.

Staying neutral in this thread, i find it fascinating that a genuine concern shared in public by a long standing SNP member and supporter... once shared on here... has somply resulted on the majority rounding on the OP.

Seems like a playground where everyone gangs up on the one kid who was brave enough to stand against the crowd and tell the teacher of a wrongdoing he suspected.

It's not even my story.

Thing is BinEK, this is happening all over Scotland. The forum is just a tiny microcosm of it. The Natsi boys on here are quick to jump all over any story that reads in a remotely negative way against the SNP, even when it comes from the people they have elected to represent them as SNP politicians. I wasn't around in 1930s Germany but by all accounts what went on there appears to be very similar to the road we seem well down the road to here in Scotland in 2015 and it's not a good sight to see. A government that looks legitimate with an underbelly of violence used to silence opposition.

Fortunately on this forum the SNP Gestapo appears to be headed up by Coward1987.

[Stuart Dickson]

You are one sad person!

Do you not want to answer? Is that cause you buy yours 3 for £10 from Primark?

Gonnie tell me one thing before we let this go though. Where exactly are these ghost like communities in the former industrial belt in Scotland? I've lived in Lanarkshire all the way through the period before and after the closure of Ravenscraig and I can't identify with your description of any area around Motherwell. Indeed even on the land that the old steel plant sat on is rows upon rows of new build houses - every single one of them selling long before they are built despite prices ranging from a minimum of £100k up to £350k.

[nosferatu]

Horrible anti Scottish right wing bufoon, never heard so much sh-te coming out anyones mouth like this for a long time. He should be ignored idiot of the highest order.

Don't be so harsh on yourself

[nosferatu]

Wrong party Stuart the BNP and UKIP are recruiting, Ruth Davidson would recoil in anger and anguish that a member of her party would spout such views

The BNP and UKIP are the English nationalist equivalents of the SNP

[nosferatu]

But he wrote he didn't stay in Wishaw, oops my bad. I forgot that was one of lies.

Says the cowardly bigot

[nosferatu]

Utterly irrelevant.

The woman isn't alive and you are living in the past.

This is 2015 and the SNP are currently pissing all over every other political party in the country.

TBH I have no idea what your point is but you are so busy peering into the past that you are not spotting the SNP juggernaut bearing down on you.

The Holyrood and Westminster maps are currently both entirely yellow.

Deal with it.

Or not.

WGAS TBH.

When 33% of folk vote a stupid way, its still a stupid way...

If wanting to be part of the crowd is what sways your vote, then, hey, lecture on!

[nosferatu]

Your period lasted from before until after the closure of Ravenscraig?? Explains a lot.

Have worked out how public debt is financed yet Ernie?

#thickasfcuk

[oaksoft]

Interesting.

Staying neutral in this thread, i find it fascinating that a genuine concern shared in public by a long standing SNP member and supporter... once shared on here... has somply resulted on the majority rounding on the OP.

Seems like a playground where everyone gangs up on the one kid who was brave enough to stand against the crowd and tell the teacher of a wrongdoing he suspected.

Staying neutral? I'll start believing that when you stop ignoring the constant nazi slurs.

[oaksoft]

The BNP and UKIP are the English nationalist equivalents of the SNP

Quite right. All those SNP members publicly declaring that the dead Syrian boy's parents were simply greedy for a western lifestyles hat I've been reading about........Errrrr hang on hmmmmmmm

Edited September 4, 2015 by oaksoft

[Seaside Nipper]

Hmm, fwiw it is utterly despicable that politicians are all chiselling into each other in order to claim the moral high ground, all after a stark image of a deceased young boy on a beach.

Makes me want to vomit , but then why should it , that's politics after all.........................

[salmonbuddie]

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8087218?utm_hp_ref=tw

I blame the SNP for forcing them into a position where they had to do these things. SNP Bad right enough.

[DougJamie]

The steel industry in Scotland was f**ked the minute the unions at Roots started to f**k about. When they lost Scotland our car manufacturing plant Ravenscraig was always living on borrowed time. Thatcher actually managed to keep Ravenscraig workers in jobs and earning handsomely during the damaging miners strike by ensuring coal got through no matter what. Many Scottish history revisionists conveniently forget that fact.

...and ship building.....really? Most of the shipyards on the Clyde had gone way before 1979. The world had moved away from big boats and a new form of transport was taking people around the world. Socialists might well have missed it but companies in Scotland like Rolls Royce were booming thanks to the air industry. We also saw massive investment in new technology in Scotland with companies like Motorola, Sun and IBM investing massively in the country during Thatchers reign. Scotland modernised under Thatcher in a way that it hadn't ever before.

You seriously have no clue what your talking about do you so just to put you straight as obviously the divets that run this site allow you to spout this pish.

Your comments on Roots, Ravenscraig and no doubt the miners is all blaming what? The workers, the industry and the market, total typical Tory rubbish.

\Shipbuilding, our taxes sky rocketed and made trade almost impossible, that saw a huge rise with Holland and Japan, who with a less skilled workforce won contract after contract.

As for the car industry, don't make me laugh. Governments have never supported home made industry, which is why all british cars are no owned by other countries, that was the death.

I haven't worked out if you are anti Scottish, anti british or just hate humans. Think its the latter and shame on the so called mods that obviously don't read the pish you spout, mind you who can blame them, now away back to your dark wee hole

[DougJamie]

Do you not want to answer? Is that cause you buy yours 3 for £10 from Primark?

Gonnie tell me one thing before we let this go though. Where exactly are these ghost like communities in the former industrial belt in Scotland? I've lived in Lanarkshire all the way through the period before and after the closure of Ravenscraig and I can't identify with your description of any area around Motherwell. Indeed even on the land that the old steel plant sat on is rows upon rows of new build houses - every single one of them selling long before they are built despite prices ranging from a minimum of £100k up to £350k.

Yes all snapped up by the workers who lost their jobs there!!

Edited September 4, 2015 by DougJamie