Sue Denim Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 10:35 AM, Rascal said: COVID has not gone away. One in 15 have it in Scotland now including my wife who tested positive today. Only good news is that progression to higher levels of care is far less likely with current variants. Deaths and serious injury from the vaccines haven’t gone away either. And neither has the cost of living crisis and the NHS backlog, both caused by the lockdowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Deaths and serious injury from the vaccines haven’t gone away either. You’ve been consuming more “utter bollox” again, haven’t you? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jul/28/gb-news-faces-ofcom-investigation-host-mark-steyn-covid-booster-claims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Edinburgh professor Richard Ennos says bolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbolloxbollox Professor Ennos said: a lot more bollox. The guy is an expert on trees and the biology of plants. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-13/wood-shaped-human-history-professor-ennos/101120244 Kid possibly respect his opinion on such subjects….. …mibbe you shouldn’t nominate him as “your special source” for all things related to vaccination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Edinburgh professor Richard Ennos says official data for 2021 and 2022 ‘provide very strong evidence for a causal relationship’ between the vaccinations and a huge number of excess deaths in the country. Professor Ennos has written to Siobhian Brown MSP, convener of the Scottish government’s covid-19 recovery committee, calling on her to re-open a public inquiry into the deaths which can only be partially explained by the virus. Earlier this year, the committee investigated the cause of an unprecedented level of excess death recorded in Scotland from week 21 to week 52 of 2021. Numbering 4,819, it was 12% above the average – the worst ever recorded. Recorded deaths so far in 2022 are heading in the same direction, and Professor Ennos suggests they are now a consequence of the booster jab. In a recent letter to Ms Brown, on July 12, he also expresses his concern that the public inquiry earlier this year into the 2021 excess death figures failed to make any mention of the injections as a potential cause. He states that of 103 public submissions to the inquiry, more than a third pointed to the jabs as a possible reason for the inflated loss of lives. He tells Ms Brown: ‘However, in your report to Humza Yousaf, cabinet secretary for health and social care, there was not a single mention of adverse reactions to covid-19 vaccines as a possible cause of the excess death seen Scotland in 2021. ‘This was despite the fact that a number of respondents provided detailed information from peer reviewed scientific papers showing that death is a known adverse reaction to the covid-19 vaccines, and that a variety of mechanisms of action have been established (induction of blood clots, myocarditis etc.). ‘Post mortems have also confirmed that covid-19 vaccination can cause death of recipients, and this is acknowledged by the UK government who have already paid compensation to multiple families of those who have died as a consequence of covid-19 vaccination. ‘Your lack of any reference to covid-19 vaccine adverse reactions as a contributor to excess death in Scotland in 2021 is even more concerning because recent detailed analysis of National Records of Scotland data now suggests a causal relationship between excess death in Scotland and covid-19 vaccinations.’ Professor Ennos states that the argument leading to this conclusion begins with the observation that in the last 32 weeks of 2021, excess death began in different age classes of the Scottish population in a staggered manner, approximately 12 weeks after peak vaccination of that age class. Beginning with the oldest, this pattern was repeated as the jabs rollout continued down through ever younger age groups. He suggests there can only be two reasons put forward for the extra deaths: it was the injections or it was a lack of medical care caused either by withdrawal of NHS services, or to patients’ failure to access these services, ‘both consequences of the Scottish government response to covid-19’. However, he says, there was no consistent rise in excess deaths to point to delayed medical care as a result of long waiting lists. Instead, what National Records of Scotland data reveal, says Professor Ennos, is a second staggering of excess deaths following the booster (third dose) jab – with 2022 mirroring the pattern of 2021 whereby age group deaths occurred approximately 12 weeks after peak administration of the vaccine. He states that the sequential manner ‘predicted by the adverse reaction hypothesis … provides very strong evidence for a causal relationship between covid-19 vaccination and excess death’. At the time of writing his letter, the cumulative excess deaths in Scotland in 2022 were 1,669, ‘and this number continues to increase each week’. Professor Ennos letter concludes: ‘The National Records of Scotland data do not support the statement you made to Humza Yousaf on April 28, 2022 that “the excess deaths have decreased and, at the date of this letter, are below average for the time of year”. ‘On the contrary the excess death situation in Scotland in 2022 is turning out to be as serious as it was in 2021. ‘Given this body of evidence, I would like you to explain to me why, in your report to Humza Yousaf, you made absolutely no mention of the possibility that adverse reactions to the covid-19 vaccine were responsible for at least a portion of the excess deaths seen in Scotland in 2021. ‘I also call upon you to reopen the inquiry into excess deaths in Scotland, given the resurgence of excess deaths in 2022 (552 in the past four weeks alone), but this time taking into consideration that adverse reactions to the covid-19 vaccine may be a significant contributor to these excess deaths.’ In response to the questions raised by Professor Ennos’ letter, a Scottish parliament spokesman stated: ‘The committee’s inquiry into excess deaths in Scotland since the start of the pandemic has now concluded. All the evidence it considered, including the Scottish Government’s response to the committee’s findings is available on the parliament’s website.’ Professor Ennos said: ‘I dismay at this totally inadequate and evasive response from the Scottish government. It is not good enough. Lives are at stake, yet pertinent questions arising from official data are simply being dismissed. Where is the much-vaunted concern for public health we have had hammered at us for the past two and a half years?’ 24 minutes ago, antrin said: The guy is an expert on trees and the biology of plants. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-13/wood-shaped-human-history-professor-ennos/101120244 Kid possibly respect his opinion on such subjects….. …mibbe you shouldn’t nominate him as “your special source” for all things related to vaccination. This is from his Edinburgh Uni page. Research summary My research is concerned with the integration of genetics into ecology and the practical applications of this knowledge in ecological management. I work on plants, principally forest trees, and the fungi with which they interact. Current projects explore patterns of adaptation in native tree species and their management consequences, and the use of genomic data to understand the origins of the current outbreak of Dothistroma needle blight on native Scots pine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 So are all these additional deaths actually of trees then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 So are all these additional deaths actually of trees then?Not all of them, there were a couple of bushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Slarti said: 55 minutes ago, StanleySaint said: So are all these additional deaths actually of trees then? Not all of them, there were a couple of bushes. Careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) Aye… I read his Uni blurb, Slarti… And I’m sure he’s a top gun in his field… (or Forest)… …but I was in the process of childishly mocking The Captain so didnae chose - “being measured and responsible”. Edited July 28, 2022 by antrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) . Edited July 28, 2022 by antrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) There will be tears for two or three forum members who love it when the numbers go up................... Cases DOWN by 28% this week. Hospital admissions DOWN 9% this week. Unfortunately ICU UP 68%, from 15 to 25, just for some context. Edited July 29, 2022 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 What I don’t understand is , who the f**k Is actually testing ? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: What I don’t understand is , who the f**k Is actually testing ? 🤷♂️ Think it was mentioned a while ago the ONS, you know them, love a good scare story, are sending out random testing kits and coming up with the numbers from the people who return them. What I don't understand, who really gives a fcuk anymore? Edited July 29, 2022 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: What I don’t understand is , who the f**k Is actually testing ? 🤷♂️ You'd be surprised , I was talking to some folk in the Lord Lounsdale last night and several of them still test at least twice a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, billyg said: You'd be surprised , I was talking to some folk in the Lord Lounsdale last night and several of them still test at least twice a week. I'm assuming that's work related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: I'm assuming that's work related? Doubt it , at least two of them are self employed , another guy said to me "I 've had a wee cold all week , so I'm testing every day but still negative" ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, billyg said: You'd be surprised , I was talking to some folk in the Lord Lounsdale last night and several of them still test at least twice a week. Where do they get the test kits ? Are people actually buying them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Where do they get the test kits ? Are people actually buying them ? We have a few boxes and I guess others might be the same CG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, billyg said: Doubt it , at least two of them are self employed , another guy said to me "I 've had a wee cold all week , so I'm testing every day but still negative" ! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) I see that several retailers are selling covid home test kits, exactly the same as the ones we got for free , sorry , paid for through our taxes . Boots are selling single kit for £2 and Randox doing the same. Nice to see Tory supporting companies doing so well out of peoples health and paranoia , these poor companies had a helluva time during the heights of the pandemic . C U N T S every single Tory one of them 😡 Edited July 29, 2022 by Callum Gilhooley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 40 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: I see that several retailers are selling covid home test kits, exactly the same as the ones we got for free , sorry , paid for through our taxes . Boots are selling single kit for £2 and Randox doing the same. Nice to see Tory supporting companies doing so well out of peoples health and paranoia , these poor companies had a helluva time during the heights of the pandemic . C U N T S every single Tory one of them 😡 FFS, £2 a pop, hardly profiteering on a grand scale, especially as sales are liable to be very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, faraway saint said: FFS, £2 a pop, hardly profiteering on a grand scale, especially as sales are liable to be very low. Well, it’s £2 more than we were paying 🤷♂️ Also , I’m sure their cost price is probably thrupence old money ! Do you honestly think they would be selling it if it didn’t provide decent turnover and a very healthy net profit ? 🤔. They’re not doing it out the goodness of their heart . It’s all helping to line the pockets of their Tory supporting millionaire chairman …… who just happens to be one of Boris Bullingdon club chums 😡. Funny that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, Callum Gilhooley said: Well, it’s £2 more than we were paying 🤷♂️ Also , I’m sure their cost price is probably thrupence old money ! Do you honestly think they would be selling it if it didn’t provide decent turnover and a very healthy net profit ? 🤔. They’re not doing it out the goodness of their heart . It’s all helping to line the pockets of their Tory supporting millionaire chairman …… who just happens to be one of Boris Bullingdon club chums 😡. Funny that . Aye, away and have a lie doon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Where do they get the test kits ? Are people actually buying them ? Health and Social Care workers are still supplied with them for free and asked to test twice a week, uploading results every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, BuddieinEK said: Health and Social Care workers are still supplied with them for free and asked to test twice a week, uploading results every time. Fair enough , thanks for the reply . 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 My wife tested positive just over a week ago but now testing negative. On the other hand I tested positive this morning so am now on my second Dose of COVID 19. Symptoms were cough, stuffed up nose, some difficulties focussing and tiredness. It’s still out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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