faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, W6er said: If he pays his dues, he's entitled to his views! By all accounts he goes home and away... Never said he isn't. It seems you're happy to post mince but not prepared to back it up. What value does your last sentence bring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Never said he isn't. It seems you're happy to post mince but not prepared to back it up. What value does your last sentence bring? I'm sorry, but I don't follow! I've substantiated the reasoning behind my opinion with the form tables and that, since September, the Fakes' home record is vastly superior to our away record. He pays to watch us, spends a decent portion of his free time travelling to away games (at least, I believe I've read he's a member of a supporters' bus) and sitting in the cold, in which case he's fully entitled to be as pessimistic, cynical and jaded as he likes. Some would argue that given his financial investment and the hours of leisure time he dedicates to the club, his opinion is worth more than that of an armchair supporter who watches on an illicit stream from the comfort of their own home. So, I'm unclear what it is you're asking me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, W6er said: I'm sorry, but I don't follow! I've substantiated the reasoning behind my opinion with the form tables and that, since September, the Fakes' home record is vastly superior to our away record. He pays to watch us, spends a decent portion of his free time travelling to away games (at least, I believe I've read he's a member of a supporters' bus) and sitting in the cold, in which case he's fully entitled to be as pessimistic, cynical and jaded as he likes. Some would argue that given his financial investment and the hours of leisure time he dedicates to the club, his opinion is worth more than that of an armchair supporter who watches on an illicit stream from the comfort of their own home. So, I'm unclear what it is you're asking me. I've already explained my opinion on your opinion. I never went near your view on this game so quite why you're mentioning that is beyond me. You're empty point that anybody who attends is worth more than people who don't has been torpedoed many times on here previously. 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: Wait a fecking minute. Are you SERIOUSLY trying to defend elvis? He's not negative, he's a few sandwiched short of a picnic. he is almost in hysterics when we lose a goal/game. He almost NEVER points out any positives and his "predictions" are almost a copy and paste week after week. Now you're another kettle of fish. Even when we were on a good run you settled into your "I'd be happy with a draw" patter. Nip up to the hospital, get those fence splinters picked out of your arse. Edited December 6, 2023 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, faraway saint said: I've already explained my opinion on your opinion. I never went near your view on this game so quite why you're mentioning that is beyond me. You're empty point that anybody who attends is worth more than people who don't has been torpedoed many times on here previously. I'm not defending @elvis's negativity, rather I am defending his right to express that negativity on here. Furthermore, I would rather have exaggerated negativity than delusional optimism. I still think Elvis is actually more of a 'character' than anything else. If those are the genuinely held views of a real person, then...well, that's very unfortunate, and we should be sympathetic. I hope that makes my views clear. Is there anything else you would like me to clarify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, W6er said: I'm not defending @elvis's negativity, rather I am defending his right to express that negativity on here. Furthermore, I would rather have exaggerated negativity than delusional optimism. I still think Elvis is actually more of a 'character' than anything else. If those are the genuinely held views of a real person, then...well, that's very unfortunate, and we should be sympathetic. I hope that makes my views clear. Is there anything else you would like me to clarify? No, we're done. 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, faraway saint said: No, we're done. 🙏 What I would like to add is that unrealistic expectations only adds to the pressure the team and our manager are under. Which I don't think is helpful. I will be content with a draw tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, W6er said: What I would like to add is that unrealistic expectations only adds to the pressure the team and our manager are under. Which I don't think is helpful. I will be content with a draw tonight. I would like to add if the manager doesn't exude confidence the players will see that as a weakness and the whole team will collapse. Alex Ferguson 1999 You would be happy with every game being a draw. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 OK, my time to 'fess-up', I've put St Mirren on my 5-team accumulator bet for tonight, so I am the cock that cursed us tonight. Sorry everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, faraway saint said: I would like to add if the manager doesn't exude confidence the players will see that as a weakness and the whole team will collapse. Alex Ferguson 1999 You would be happy with every game being a draw. 🤣 If we can win at home and draw away, I'd be ecstatic. Obviously, that's unrealistic. But, generally speaking a point on the road is reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, W6er said: If we can win at home and draw away, I'd be ecstatic. Obviously, that's unrealistic. But, generally speaking a point on the road is reasonable. A point ANYWHERE is reasonable going by your normal prediction or hope. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, Wilbur said: OK, my time to 'fess-up', I've put St Mirren on my 5-team accumulator bet for tonight, so I am the cock that cursed us tonight. Sorry everyone. Cash out. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 COME ON THE BUDDIES EASY TONIGHT. A BIG WIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, shull said: COME ON THE BUDDIES EASY TONIGHT. A BIG WIN I really hope you are right, @shull. Few will be as (surprised and) delighted as me if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, W6er said: What I would like to add is that unrealistic expectations only adds to the pressure the team and our manager are under. Which I don't think is helpful. I will be content with a draw tonight. Hod the bloody bus!!! Are you seriously saying that anyone who expects us to win tonight is harbouring “unrealistic expectations”?? Really? If that’s the case you better add William Hill to your list of people with unrealistic expectations as they have us as clear favourites. You can talk about form all you like, but whilst I can’t speak for anyone else’s views, my overriding point on this thread was simply to say that I will NEVER be happy with a point against a team like St. Johnstone and I cannot fathom the mentality of anyone who would be. I have already said I don’t believe we have a divine right to win, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think we will. To me, the thought of going into a game against St. Johnstone being happy with a draw, is more depressing than losing the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Hod the bloody bus!!! Are you seriously saying that anyone who expects us to win tonight is harbouring “unrealistic expectations”?? Really? If that’s the case you better add William Hill to your list of people with unrealistic expectations as they have us as clear favourites. You can talk about form all you like, but whilst I can’t speak for anyone else’s views, my overriding point on this thread was simply to say that I will NEVER be happy with a point against a team like St. Johnstone and I cannot fathom the mentality of anyone who would be. I have already said I don’t believe we have a divine right to win, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think we will. To me, the thought of going into a game against St. Johnstone being happy with a draw, is more depressing than losing the game. Shut up, you're not going to be in attendance so you're WAY down the opinion league. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: To me, the thought of going into a game against St. Johnstone being happy with a draw, is more depressing than losing the game. I’m sure you and I still hold a grudge against that cnut Levein after Prague 4-6-0. Plus he was in that Jambos side of the 80s under McDonald. Intae those Tory farmers! 3 points and nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Shut up, you're not going to be in attendance so you're WAY down the opinion league. 🤣 I was at the 4-0 game at oor place. Does that coont? Edited December 6, 2023 by TPAFKA Jersey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I was at the 4-0 game at oor place. Does that coont? Naw. Imagine the audacity, in this day and age, indicating that any idiot that attends has a more relevant opinion that anyone who's watched almostvevery game. Especially being downgraded againt elvis. 🤣🤣🤣 Oh, I'll no see tonight's game, be getting the head down as I'm up at 2:30 tomorrow morning. Please forgive me. 🙄 Edited December 6, 2023 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 I reserve the right to change my opinion having just seen our starting line up. WTF! 😩😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigYardsAndBasher Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I reserve the right to change my opinion having just seen our starting line up. WTF! 😩😩 It's great to see Lewis Jamieson being given a start. I have high hopes for that young man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, BigYardsAndBasher said: It's great to see Lewis Jamieson being given a start. I have high hopes for that young man. Not before time he's the last striker to score a goal for us, but he needs the service good luck Lewis 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Come on Lewis, be the new Dougie Somner. Not everyone on this forum will have heard of Somner. One person definitely won't. What a magnificent goalscorer for us, and he was part time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Why is Flynn ahead of Baccus... geez Dunne.... oh well keep the faith until Elvis 1st post probably after 3 mins... why isnt Small getting a start ? Hardly a front foot line up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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