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Oldfellow

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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Paisleyporridge in Aberdeen v St Mirren 16/02/2019   
    Schoolboys should respect their elders. What exactly did I say that was incorrect 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from faraway saint in Aberdeen v St Mirren 16/02/2019   
    Schoolboys should respect their elders. What exactly did I say that was incorrect 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from shull in Aberdeen v St Mirren 16/02/2019   
    Schoolboys should respect their elders. What exactly did I say that was incorrect 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from belfast billy in Aberdeen v St Mirren 16/02/2019   
    Yet again someone on here getting all misty eyed over a glorious past that never existed. We have always had a dreadful record up there. I've been going there with saints since the sixties and can only recall two wins, maybe three and very few draws. Hopefully I get a pleasant surprise today. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Hendo in Aberdeen v St Mirren 16/02/2019   
    Yet again someone on here getting all misty eyed over a glorious past that never existed. We have always had a dreadful record up there. I've been going there with saints since the sixties and can only recall two wins, maybe three and very few draws. Hopefully I get a pleasant surprise today. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from weetoonsaint in Magic has gone..   
    I'll always go and always will as long as I'm able but appreciate where you are coming from 
    I do think Scottish football is in a dreadful state due to the power and adoration of the old firm. I wish they would go to England but that ain't going to happen. I know our league would be less well off financially but it would still be more enjoyable than what we have. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from ALBIONSAINT in The championship   
    Agree with all of that. Since world war 2 our mean average league position has been between 12th and 13th so we are really where we usually are. On that basis a regime that gets us above tenth is I think successful and one that has us below fifteenth is a failure. I actually thought Danny was a poor manager but on reflection he did rather well given the above 
    If we want to advance need to have a better CEO at the helm. Compare Leanne Dempster at Hibs with Tony and it becomes obvious. Likewise on the commercial front the set up seems stagnant and can think no further than having yet another dinner. 
    We have a long way to go but clearly our current structure and staff in post does not provide the answer 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from ironsaints87 in The championship   
    Agree with all of that. Since world war 2 our mean average league position has been between 12th and 13th so we are really where we usually are. On that basis a regime that gets us above tenth is I think successful and one that has us below fifteenth is a failure. I actually thought Danny was a poor manager but on reflection he did rather well given the above 
    If we want to advance need to have a better CEO at the helm. Compare Leanne Dempster at Hibs with Tony and it becomes obvious. Likewise on the commercial front the set up seems stagnant and can think no further than having yet another dinner. 
    We have a long way to go but clearly our current structure and staff in post does not provide the answer 
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    Oldfellow reacted to Kemp in The championship   
    It is no surprise that Celtic supporters and "Wendy Saints" are both too f**king thick to read the whole post and understand it  
    I don't want us to be in the Championship, I am just explaining the reality of where we are as a club. I want us to be competing for European places and winning the Scottish Cup. It just simply isn't going to happen unless we can get ourselves in a better financial position.
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Kemp in The championship   
    Agree with all of that. Since world war 2 our mean average league position has been between 12th and 13th so we are really where we usually are. On that basis a regime that gets us above tenth is I think successful and one that has us below fifteenth is a failure. I actually thought Danny was a poor manager but on reflection he did rather well given the above 
    If we want to advance need to have a better CEO at the helm. Compare Leanne Dempster at Hibs with Tony and it becomes obvious. Likewise on the commercial front the set up seems stagnant and can think no further than having yet another dinner. 
    We have a long way to go but clearly our current structure and staff in post does not provide the answer 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Gordon Urquhart in The championship   
    For as long as I can remember there has been no spark at board level and that is where the club is driven from. I'm not saying we should have a board that overdpends but we need one bursting with energy and we don't have that. 
    In Brian Caldwell we had a steady if not stunning CEO. I have a feeling his Board would not give him much space as they appeared to enjoy the power. We nowhave someone who if he has a role certainly isn't doing much other than making embarrassing remarks
    Managerially TH and JRwere a breath of fresh air. Gus achieved a lot but hardly got the enthusiasm levels high. 
    I also tend to think that there is a closed shop feel about the place at non playing levels  that needs to be addressed. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Isle Of Bute Saint in Magic has gone..   
    I'll always go and always will as long as I'm able but appreciate where you are coming from 
    I do think Scottish football is in a dreadful state due to the power and adoration of the old firm. I wish they would go to England but that ain't going to happen. I know our league would be less well off financially but it would still be more enjoyable than what we have. 
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    Oldfellow reacted to elvis in The championship   
    I have said it before been saying it for years but we really do need a properly trained commercial manager. 
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    Oldfellow reacted to ALBIONSAINT in The championship   
    There is something fundamentally wrong with the club, what it is I don’t know? It’s been like this for years, just when we should be progressing, we seem to decline. You wanted a Scottish manger in September? Goodwin and Nelson publicly distanced themselves as even potential candidates in the summer! Why? I feel that stmirren isn’t seen as a positive move for a lot of managers and probably players also. You just have to look and see how many Scottish players we have managed to attract this season. 
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    Oldfellow reacted to Kemp in The championship   
    The current set-up in Scotland isn't a good fit for us. We are pretty much on a par with Inverness and Partick Thistle and will always sit around 10th to 14th in the overall hierarchy.
    A 16 team league would allow for a sustained stay in the Premier and maybe a bit of freedom to make the odd gamble and push higher up. A 10 team league would allow us some time in the Premier, but more time in a Championship with a couple bigger clubs and therefore bigger crowds.
    In terms of crowds and finances though around 12th or 13th is where we are.
    We will therefore be a yo-yo club. I don't see a huge problem with that actually, as 2000 and last season were by far the two best years I've had supporting St Mirren.
    Clubs like Inverness have shown you can have a few good years getting 2nd, 3rd or 4th place finishes, but eventually, you will return to more or less where your financial standing in the overall hierarchy is.
    The "problem" for fans like a couple of the posters above is they don't seem to be able to accept where we are and therefore what our results are likely to be. It is certainly possible we could establish ourselves in the top six like St Johnstone, but to do that we need to increase our off-field revenue by approx 1m pounds as they have. I saw one poster getting very excited about the TV revenue from the new Sky deal. Had to laugh. It is a slightly better but still not a good deal when we compare to leagues of a similar standing in Europe (or Gary Lineker's salary for presenting an English highlights show). More importantly, it won't make any difference to our standing in Scottish football as other clubs revenue will also increase, wages will adjust accordingly, and the better players will still end up at clubs slightly above us. Money is illusionary, and that TV deal is of absolutely no use to us for winning football matches.
    The only way to improve our standing in Scottish football to the point where we will actually enjoy being in the Premier League is to put ourselves at a comparative financial advantage over clubs of a similar size. Exactly as Motherwell and Dundee have done by cheating and stealing, Kilmarnock have done by having a rich benefactor willing to service their debt, or St Johnstone have done by building a successful revenue stream away from football activities. In our case this could be hospitality, accommodation, fitness centres etc. 
    This won't happen to us any time soon for a few reasons;
    - Gordon Scott isn't actually interested in doing it. (He'd have started by now if he was).
    - Tony Fitzpatrick doesn't have the skillset to do it
    - Campbell Kennedy is incompetent.
    - SMISA don't have any say on the running of the club, and their vision extends to doing manual labour around Ralston.
    The commercial side of the club has been stagnant for years, and probably performs as badly as our scouting operation which I believe for a club of our size is the worst in Scotland outside of Falkirk.
    The only really well run part of the club has been the Academy under the leadership of David Longwell, without which we would probably be in League 1 by now. The money generated from the sales of key players was used to win us the league last season (alongside the performances of academy players). However, that money is not a constant, predictable revenue stream. We will probably bank a little from Kyle & Ethan and from what I understand that will be the end of it for a while.
    So, to answer the original point raised, you might as well enjoy being in The Championship because that is where we are going to spend a lot of our time. There are advantages and disadvantages to both leagues, with home games generally being better in the Premier and away games better in the Championship. The Premier isn't that much fun though unless we can actually compete. This season, for example, is f**king murder.
    Clubs like St Johnstone and Kilmarnock are operating on levels of turnover higher than ours, and will therefore continue to bring in better players than us. The best we can really hope for is where Danny Lennon got us to, 9th in the league and winning a national cup. Of course, Stewart Gilmour fired him mainly because the finances are so tight he thought it a good idea to remove the manager's salary completely and just get by with a coach and a couple of players running things. It was a woeful decision but financial stress sometimes causes us to act irrationally.
    The biggest shame for me is that it would appear (and I may be wrong here, but I doubt it), that the 1m pound bounty from John McGinn's transfer will have been spent this season on a massive turnover of incompetent players and managers. This could and should have been used to bring in further investors to build the facilities that would allow us add the further revenue streams that we need if we are ever to put ourselves at a sustainable comparative advantage over the other clubs that look to finish between 3rd and 9th in the Premier League.
    I do enjoy a day out to Ayr through.
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Saint_Sad in Here At Last - Tony Fitzpatrick's Autobiography   
    I felt he displayed naivety, didn't seem to be a realist, was impulsive and intellectually and experience wise had an inappropriate background.
    As an aside and for what it's worth I suspect there was a lot of exaggeration in the book. I also didn't like the writing style albeit I'm sure it wasn't Tony writing it. It certainly didn't seem it was Tony talking to me. Perhaps I'm not the brightest but I found it rather patronising. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Saint_Sad in Here At Last - Tony Fitzpatrick's Autobiography   
    Having just read the book I'm now convinced that he is never a CEO in a month of Sundays. Great player, rubbish manager and CEO. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from turrabuddie in Dundee v St Mirren+ [email protected] Visit.   
    I agree that Cody Cooke is worth a starting place. He is physical enough to cause problems and can help set up Jackson. Surely we can take something from this game. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Bud the Baker in W7 Fans & Banners   
    Why does the club continually pander to this bunch of schoolboys and adults who act like schoolboys. They don't improve the atmosphere. I can't hear them from w2 anyway and theyare a nuisance at away games. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from Buddie-Boy in Dundee v St Mirren+ [email protected] Visit.   
    I agree that Cody Cooke is worth a starting place. He is physical enough to cause problems and can help set up Jackson. Surely we can take something from this game. 
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from St.Ricky in Dundee v St Mirren+ [email protected] Visit.   
    I agree that Cody Cooke is worth a starting place. He is physical enough to cause problems and can help set up Jackson. Surely we can take something from this game. 
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    Oldfellow reacted to Buddie-Boy in Dundee v St Mirren+ [email protected] Visit.   
    I would start Cooke alongside Jackson on Saturday.  If nothing else, Cooke might be able to head a few hopeful up-field punts into the path of Jackson. 
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    Oldfellow reacted to Lord Pityme in The Oran Kearney Interviews Thread   
    Neilson was quite candid in public, and private that the smfc board were living in cloud cuckoo land regarding their expectations of the new manager - v - budget he would have to work with to achieve said expectations.
    Stubbs thought he could match it by hoovering up some non league and young loanee talent. Saw it wasnt working, started bringing in pro's with premiership level pedigree (Hodson, Edwards and reportedly made the first contact with Anton).
    Oran obviously felt he could match the boards crazy expectations on budget available, and has so far been found wanting in putting out a competitive side each week. Again he's turned to higher earning pros like Hammill & Jackson. In essence the board have already made available more budget to him, than they planned!
    the hard facts of our predicament make uncomfortable reading, that a fair few fans seem unwilling to acknowledge. 
    We have in our side Ferdinand, Hammill, Jackson who have all played in the EPL, one in the Bundesleague. In addition to that we have Hodson, an internationalist who has played in the english championship as well as the Our premiership , Edwards who has played in the premiership.
    then we have S McGinn (English championship), P McGinn (Premiership), Samson (Premiership),  Flynn (played in cup semi finals at wembley, beat EPL sides) Willock (Man utd loanee, played in Holland and Premiership)
    the point I am making is when was the last time we had at our disposal a group of players who have played at the highest level, or well beyond our normal level, and yet another manager cant get a performance out of them???
    our achilles heel are the likes of Baird, Smith, Mullen, McShane, Eckersley, Mackenzie etc who are all well below par, injury prone or both. It is the remnants of Ross's squad that is holding us back now! We won the championship with them, they were on their way out though as Ross realised in those final games we were going backwards. Then Stubbs saw they werent up to it as well and told some they could go, and shipped a few out.
    Oran is basically repeating the errors Ross made, and that Stubbs tried not to, by going back through these guys and giving them game time in the hope that, for some unknown reason they will suddenly be up to Premiership standard. It hasnt, and it wont work!
    he is more likely to get performances out of Heaton, Cooke, King and Kwepenka than he is out of a group that Ross didnt fully believe in anymore. Oran is going to have to bite the bullet imo, and play guys who might have a future, rather than the ones who only have yesterday to look back on. He will get absolute pelters for it, but he'll get that anyway as people try to blame him next for "Tearing up the championship winning side" when in reality even Ross knew they were collectively and for a fair few individually a spent force.
     
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from oaksoft in The Oran Kearney Interviews Thread   
    Quality of squad is irrelevant. Neilson got his motivated. OK hasn't yet
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    Oldfellow got a reaction from faraway saint in The Oran Kearney Interviews Thread   
    My apogies for not making myself clear. Point I was trying to make albeit not very well was that Neilson got a demotivated squad working well. Oran has not got a demotivated squad working well. Of course the quality of the squad matters probably more than anything. 
    My assumption is that given the same squad if Neilson was in charge he would get them motivated and organised quicker than Oran would ie I would have liked Neilson to have been appointed by us but Tony screwed that up. 
    January will confirm whether Oran has the ability to strengthen the squad as well as motivate it and organise it
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