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Saints fans welcoming Djemba Djemba.

Yeah I always had a soft spot for Dundee United in the 80s, loved it that his team gave the old firm a real good run for there money, and they also had some great runs in europe... A sad loss for the whole of scottish football..

Both shit in Dingwall ?

What I'm not quite understanding is that in every league table I look at, both Motherwell and Hamilton are credited with the points they gained through the SPFL decision, which is technically under appeal, which essentially makes these decisions and outcomes as a temporary position rather that a confirmed decision. Yet no asterisks or bracketed explanation at the bottom of each table!? 
I'm not suggesting that we may have to ultimately accept our fates, but the league currently should not be skewed by the decisions until it is completed properly, right through all appeal procedures. So that should reflect 6 points less for Motherwell and 3 less for Hamilton and also games to be played by all teams involved, i.e. two less for Motherwell & Saints and one less for Killie and Hamilton.
Innocent until proven guilty and all appeal procedures are exhausted comes to mind.
All I want is consistency, so the transgressions by all are treated the same way. As has been said before, how can relegation or a European position be decided by the inconsistent decisions of a Kangaroo court?

Aye and there a good few others in that camp too. 
The whole Goodwin must Go was a complete joke from start to finish, lets hope a few people have learned a lesson but I doubt it.

I'd be happier about us paying the £40k fine now and having a suspended penalty of points deduction if we breach protocol. Killie would have missed more games had it not been for the timing of the international break and league cup games... they also had to lockdown but only missed 1 league game.
The rules are changing as the season goes on. The Hibs game went ahead because at that point there was no ruling that you had to have at least 1 fit goalie among 13 fit players. A few weeks after forcing us to play Hibs with a keeper who only just signed in time to appear on the team sheet!
Since we were investigated DUFC and Celtic have broken protocol for team photos and the SFA have been pulled up by UEFA over Scotland U21 breaches.

Great news. I'm glad the board have more sense than some who post on here.  Accepting without question the absolutely stupid punishment would have been shocking.

He's not alone ;Kilmarnock manager Alex Dyer says SPFL Covid punishments don't 'make sense' - Not The Old Firm

A suspended points deduction of 6 points would have been an appropriate punishment.  If we f**ked up again before the end of the season then it’s 6 points off, this would ensure that the games actually got played.

That's exactly my thoughts above a much better solution in my opinion. You can bet your last dollar if it had been one of the arse cheeks that's what would have happened. 

There should just have been a fine rather than all the stupid point distribution.

If they suspended the fine why could the not suspended the forfatures 

I'll break my self imposed posting ban to pass comment on Steve's untimely passing... 
Yes Steve and I got together with the idea of doing a film regarding the closure of the Love St years. He was working in broadcast equipment hire and myself in broadcast TV coverage. It was a fair old bumpy ride putting the thing together, it never quite turned out as originally intended but we became good pals during or indeed 'in spite' of the process. Steve's marketing experience and good sales abilities were priceless throughout.
I got to know his family too, him, the Mrs and young Andrew relocating to Troon after a time down south, around the time of the movie project. I hadn't been to many games or made much contact after we left Love Street owing to the usual weekend work commitments, but finally ran into Steve and Andrew at a cold midweek game in late 2018 after my leg amputation experience had seen me laid up for most of that year. Sadly that was when he informed me his beloved other half had contracted,  and quickly succumbed to cancer and everything was up in the air. Steve somehow soldiered on and was still a regular at both home and away games with Andrew by his side.
So with that in mind, I hope he's in a happier place now and that (if you believe in these kind of things) that they are back together.  If you see Andrew at a game in the future, and know him, wish him well. 
My sincere condolences to family and friends. May they both rest in peace. 

Big Billy scored a few against us in Semi finals 

People have said the same about drink driving, seatbelts, use of mobile phones when driving in the past. Societies have rules and your constant equation of this with fascism is a gross exaggeration. The laws have been passed by elected bodies and the sanctions are appropriate. People aren't having their homes or places of business or worship vandalised or destroyed, the police aren't beating up non-mask wearers on the street or "disappearing" them - you're just a whinger!

Falkirk 3 Kilmarnock 0
Dundee 3  Forfar Athletic 0 

Better off with his old man...

Mutually consented as of right now.

And the one after.............

I don’t give a monkeys about peoples thoughts on Òran If truth be known I don’t like the way things finished up,I’m sure there were faults on both sides and I’m quite sure that one day the truth will come out but the man is part of St Mirren history and for that I will post about him all I want
Oran and his family were part of the St Mirren family and that should never be forgotten I hope the haters enjoyed their night in the house while the rest of us were out celebrating the penalty shoot out victory

An 'old man in a chair' pulling rabbits from his bag of 'truths'
Vernon Coleman is peddling played-out Covid-19 conspiracy theories
PUBLISHED : 27 JUN 2020 AT 04:00
NEWSPAPER SECTION: NEWS
WRITER: OLIVER FENNELL
500           16 Vernon Coleman, a prolific author and doctor, is seen on a YouTube video clip.
An old man in a chair sits, legs crossed, next to a dark-wood bookcase stocked with hardbacks. He speaks of "the truth" about coronavirus and repeats many of the conspiracy theories we've heard elsewhere, but he does so calmly, reading from prepared notes, peering over half-moon spectacles.
He speaks with the structure, timbre and pace of the experienced wordsmith; indeed, Vernon Coleman is a prolific author and a former newspaper columnist. Importantly for his followers, he is also a doctor.
In latter years, major publishers have refused his work, he has resigned from newspapers whose editors disagreed with his opinions, and YouTube often deletes his videos. To his opponents, this validates the argument his material is dangerous; to his supporters, it validates the belief he is being silenced. Dr Coleman has alleged that pharmaceutical companies control Britain's National Health Service (NHS). He is anti-vaccine. He has claimed GPs are among the top three causes of death in the United Kingdom. In the 1980s, he called Aids "the hoax of the century". Now, he says the same of coronavirus.
 
His suggestion that Aids presents a minimal risk to heterosexual people (the rate of heterosexual HIV diagnoses in the US in 2018 was actually 24%, according to hiv.org) is one of the "many truths" that Dr Coleman claims to have exposed, leading to him being "banned by all mainstream media".
Now it is coronavirus which has him delving into his bag of "truths", and in doing so, taking the less imaginative approach favoured by less qualified commentators -- that of attempting to convince doubters by stating earnestly "these are the facts".
Government officials do not feel the need to specify their coronavirus briefings are "the truth". Newspaper articles are not prefaced with a qualification that what follows are "facts". But in their eagerness to convince us of their legitimacy, conspiracy theorists sprinkle these two words throughout their digital missives, so much so that the words themselves have become cliches.
Indeed, these self-proclaimed "truthers" are adept at sloganeering. Whether it is deliberate or merely a modern consequence, who knows? But their employment of a tactic that Dr Coleman criticises is just one of many contradictions.
They label the public "sheeple" and decry the "brainwashing" we have undergone, at the same time as unhesitatingly lapping up any conspiratorial crumb flicked their way. "Question everything", they insist, but then ignore us when we question them. They indignantly tell us to "Do your research", but fail to fact-check the material they share. They clamour for "freedom of speech", but kick dissenting voices out of their forums. They accuse the media of "scaremongering", and then tell us 5G is what's killing people, that our facemasks are making us sick, and that a coronavirus vaccine will implant tracking bugs in us. There is an unrelenting denouncement of "fake news" while disseminating that very thing.
 
The coronavirus crisis is labelled variously as a "plandemic" or a "scamdemic". Those who do not believe are urged to "wake up!", and material is distributed invariably with a plea to "share this with everybody before it gets taken down!".
And in that, we get a hint of their motivations. In the social media age, the share is the most quantifiable currency. It not only brings new names to the fore, it grants renewed momentum to discredited and vengeful public figures such as Judy Mikovitz, and it resurrects relics like David Icke -- and Vernon Coleman.
Don't imagine, either, that old-fashioned currency is not a motivation. The truther movement, among its higher ranks at least, is commercial. "Follow the money", we are told, to find what's really behind coronavirus. But banned videos resurface on for-profit platforms. Donations are sought for oblique "research". Public speakers charge thousands of dollars. Icke's website has a £99 (3,800 baht) paywall and a shop. And Dr Coleman's videos are rounded off with a two-minute entreaty to "ask everyone you know" to watch his channel and visit his website -- from where you can buy his books. QAnon, probably the leading conspiracy theory community, and certainly the most sophisticated, sells merchandise through Amazon. You can buy its slogans on T-shirts. Choose from one emblazoned with "The Great Awakening", or "Follow the White Rabbit" or "Where We Go One, We Go All", or perhaps you'd prefer a "Red Pill" or "Breadcrumbs" design. Yours for US$20 (618 baht) apiece.
QAnon's motivations are bigger than simply selling tat. The movement is starkly political; ferociously anti-Clinton and an unabashed supporter of another modern master of the slogan, Donald Trump. He, apparently, is the man who will bring down the illuminati that cooked up the coronavirus crisis. "Draining the swamp", they call it.
The average social media crusader is probably acting in the spirit of community. They believe in the theories and feel it is their duty to spread the material supporting them. It is unrealistic to expect them to apply the same due diligence that is a legal requirement of the mass media they are so suspicious of, and whoever is creating this content will understand this. Their agenda can be furthered by stoking a climate of fear (while accusing others of doing the same), fomenting urgency, and instilling in people the contagious conviction that they are underdogs rising up against enormous powers and unseeable evils.
Whether the agenda is politics or profit, once the people willingly do someone else's bidding, it's a clear sign the propaganda is working.
Fight the power. Fight the lies. Avoid mass media. Follow the white rabbit. Accuse your enemy of what you yourself are guilty. Wake up to the insidious use of slogans, and spread the word -- preferably using slogans.
Even an old man in a chair knows this.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Well that was strange! Just saw a taxi swerve all over the road and collide into a wall on the Glasgow rd. 😂😂

Watched the extra time and penalties. 
Brilliant scenes at the end. 

If he was that good he wouldn’t be at Dundee.

He scored 1 goal in 10 games for us.

The way some of our fans have got their knickers in a twist about him you’d think we’d missed out on Messi.

I’m sure we will sign a striker who scores more than 10% of the time before the end of August.