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I'd like to see reform but only if it benefits clubs that are not Rangers & Celtic 

I'd like to see reform but only if it benefits clubs that are not Rangers & Celtic 

I'd like to see reform but only if it benefits clubs that are not Rangers & Celtic 

I'd like to see reform but only if it benefits clubs that are not Rangers & Celtic 

Noticed a few comments from Shrewsbury fans saying he is destined for a much higher level and will perhaps use St Mirren as a stepping stone to bigger things. Seems to be the type of player that JG is going for. I'm okay with it, likely to put a good shift in! 

Can the pair of you get a room?  
Welcome Matt Millar , looks a good signing. 

From an outsider looking in - it seems as though the council/government are making clubs jump through hoops 
They've made promises to get a grip on things
Why don't we give them a chance rather than moaning all the time? Probably just a tick box exercise 

Brophy    Main
McGrath              Ronan
Tanser                    McCarthy                Millar
Dunne   Shaughnessy   Fraser
Alnwick
 

From an outsider looking in - it seems as though the council/government are making clubs jump through hoops 
They've made promises to get a grip on things
Why don't we give them a chance rather than moaning all the time? Probably just a tick box exercise 

From an outsider looking in - it seems as though the council/government are making clubs jump through hoops 
They've made promises to get a grip on things
Why don't we give them a chance rather than moaning all the time? Probably just a tick box exercise 

From an outsider looking in - it seems as though the council/government are making clubs jump through hoops 
They've made promises to get a grip on things
Why don't we give them a chance rather than moaning all the time? Probably just a tick box exercise 

Noticed a few comments from Shrewsbury fans saying he is destined for a much higher level and will perhaps use St Mirren as a stepping stone to bigger things. Seems to be the type of player that JG is going for. I'm okay with it, likely to put a good shift in! 

Wish him all the success, so long as we benefit on the park in the mean time. 

Can the pair of you get a room?  
Welcome Matt Millar , looks a good signing. 

Can the pair of you get a room?  
Welcome Matt Millar , looks a good signing. 

FFS What a sorry excuse for a thread this is. Welcome Matt, though I hope you aren't actually reading all this. You wouldn't know this thread is about you would you? Hopefully the missing piece of the jigsaw for us. The very best of luck to you.

They are just trolling me at this point  

You and Bazil need a strict Freudian 😂

Totally agree, SMISA should invite kibble. I'm not interested in a blame game - i've worked a lot with kibble over the years and they have done some very good work with young people - but in my experience their business is paramount, and the justifiable concerns is they are making decisions based on kibbles best interests rather than the clubs, despite attempts to claim otherwise. Concerns are made worse by the lack of transparency over how their involvement works, and the constant "great bunch of lads" patter from the club.

I read on Twitter another meeting has been arranged for 4 weeks time. I know it was a smisa meeting with smisa members, though with the negativity shared amongst some of the support towards Kibble, surely they should be invited along or they should at least ask to attend the next one, along with Tony so they are digesting what the feedback is in person and explaining how they can improve things their side. The general manager role to me sounds a bit alarming if its not been given to someone with the relevant experience. 
Tony has also had a lot of flak and he has a right to defend from his perspective. 

I think there's an element of Kibble getting the blame for absolutely everything at the moment which is a bit unfair.
Gordon is still on the board, and John is a good guy to have at the helm and I've every confidence in the other SMiSA reps that are on the board.
This is the very start of fan ownership and whilst we're going through a rocky period it should eventually, hopefully settle down. An awful lot has changed at the club, very quickly, and that was always going to take time to settle in.
Personally I'm not massively happy about a number of things that have happened and the general comms have been abysmal but I think things like the new ticketing system will be an improvement going forward, Pitch Pro being on board is good news, and the new catering stuff looks like it might be a bit more expansive than we had before.
The strength of feeling was clearly evident tonight (I was not there but going by the transcript it's pretty clear) and hopefully that will give all parties food for thought and the follow on meeting in 4 weeks might be more positive.
A wee bit of calm wouldn't go amiss right now, IMO.

All updates in OP
Hoped that questions would be answered but if anything seems to have raised more questions.
Disappointed that Tony F and Jim Gillespie (or someone else from Kibble) didn’t show, was a great chance to get everything out. 
Hearing that the meeting is still going but mostly just shouting at the moment

SMISA Q&A 6/9/21
 
A welcome from George Adam, SMISA chairman. “Has there been some screw ups? Yes. No one can deny that” - a good admission in his opening statement before the floor gets opened up.
 
John Needham now speaking.
“I intend to be as open as I can be tonight”
 
“Kibble aren’t going to go away, they’ve paid for a stake in our club. They’re keen to make the relationship work… I can confirm we’ve got more out of the relationship than them so far”
 
Chairman @johnneedham1961: “we’ve had our greatest successes when all at the club pull together in the one direction”
 
The floor now being opened up.
 
Re: club’s poor recent communication
 
JN: communication not been proactive and comprehensive, we concede that; however, unreasonable to respond to everything on social media…
 
Re: seemingly dodgy contracts being given out to the same company
 
JN: Contracts have not been given out to the same company. Tony & club mgmt responsible for contracts. There has been due diligence done and a robust interview process.
 
Re: why stewarding company were changed
 
JN: The contract was up for renewal after three years. JN unsure whether previous stewarding company was invited to tender or not.
 
Re: Ticketing fiasco
 
JN: A lot of negative feedback on outdated ticketing system meant that renewal seemed a good option. New & old systems weren’t compatible, hence the registration and renewal issues. New system will have benefits moving forward, details on that in the future
 
Re: St. Mirren’s recent apparent mistreatment of long-term staff
 
JN: apologies on behalf of the club to a long-standing member of club staff who is in attendance.
 
GA: “we need to embrace fans’ anger, and get everything out there”
 
Re: No away fans against St. J
 
JN: Didn’t want to risk it with new stewarding company and ticketing system that day
 
Re: smoothing out club operations moving forward
 
JN: Club operations run by Tony. Kibble been great in mitigating issues including covid amongst staff etc. JN going to become more hands-on, meeting regularly with Tony.
 
Re: limited attendance at start of season
 
JN: health and safety issues main reason there was no further attendance increases… won’t admit what these health and safety issues were.
 
Re: Skyview
 
JN: Skyview changed their mind once strips were already ordered. Provan Sports been very good in printing over sponsor logos. Sponsors’ contracts will be robustly checked moving forward.
 
Re: buying out kibble in future
 
£400k… not something SMISA would think about just now, criticism of Kibble been apparently unfounded.
 
GA: developing a working relationship with Kibble has been different than expected due to pandemic
 
SLO’s have collated info to improve the match-day experience, especially around entering/leaving and the car park… this will be improved
 
Re: “give the kibble an inch, they’ll take a mile”
 
JN: the kibble don’t have a veto on any boardroom decisions; with two votes in a board of 8, they don’t have control of any big decisions.
 
Correction: Kibble do have a veto on decisions that are reserved shareholder matters, including who SMISA can add to board.
 
JN: what kibble want is for their young people to get work experience at the club… there will always be a kibble employee at the club, as they have a duty of care over these young people
 
JN: General manager coming from Kibble is free of charge, so a good deal for us.
 
On Old Firm Fans getting two stands:
 
JN: going to have a good look at it… ideally doesn’t want to have old firm fans in. However, the money made is ‘a big chunk of income’. The challenge is filling family stand with paying saints customers.
 
One fan: “We should be celebrating owning this club, but everyone here is embarrassed”

John Needham saying “the board don’t make day-to-day decisions in the club”… that’s Tony’s responsibility

…
 

Closing question: “What are your aspirations for St. Mirren?”
JN: make us as successful off the park as we are on it. This includes comms, matchday experience, stadium improvements and generally increasing income.
On park - sustained success in Premiership.

Trust? The chairman has basically just blamed TF for everything with no chance to defend himself.
PS I'm not saying Tony is perfect, I'm just very uncomfortable with tonight's (non) answers