saintnextlifetime Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I'm actually all for English votes for English matters - they should, however, have an English parliament to do this. If we have to stay in the union it should be as federal /devolved a solution as possible. You could end up with the SNP in power in Scotland, the Tories in England, Plaid Cymru in Wales, a bunch of nutters (of some persuasion) in N.I. and Labour as the UK government with just power over defence, foreign policy and not much else. Now that would be interesting. Yes , those 1.6 million voters have certainly made a difference and caused some change. Their votes were certainly not in vain and I reckon the way they vote next April , will also make for change in our country. . Ah , the power of democracy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a50lennyc Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 North Sea Oil sector close to collapse. Looks like the 67% that didn't vote yes were right in ignoring the lies of the yes campaign! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30525539 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madball Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yes , those 1.6 million voters have certainly made a difference and caused some change. Their votes were certainly not in vain and I reckon the way they vote next April , will also make for change in our country. . Ah , the power of democracy. . Are you assuming that a vote for Yes will equate to a vote for SNP going forward? I voted Yes, but never been an SNP voter at the General Elections, and at local elections have tended to be more about candidates and not parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 the oil price is being manipulated to put pressure on Russia it will recover and the so-called crisis will give the oil companies a chance to cut costs and make even more money when it does and just so you know, oil volatility is every bit as bad a news story for the UK as it is for scotland. Just ask "drill baby drill" Cameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 the oil price is being manipulated to put pressure on Russia it will recover and the so-called crisis will give the oil companies a chance to cut costs and make even more money when it does and just so you know, oil volatility is every bit as bad a news story for the UK as it is for scotland. Just ask "drill baby drill" Cameron I wonder how the good old US of A will reward the UK for their complicity in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 this fall in oil & gas prices isnt good news for those in the fracking industry either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Hughes in BlueSuedeShoes Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 North Sea Oil sector close to collapse. Looks like the 67% that didn't vote yes were right in ignoring the lies of the yes campaign! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30525539 What, did the Yes campaign assure everyone that oil prices would never fall? For one thing, the oil price fluctuates constantly. Back in 2008 it went from $147 a barrel to under $40 in the space of 4 months. There was no talk of a collapsing industry then and all that happened was companies delayed projects until prices went up. Once they did, as they inevitably always do, everything went back to normal and it was business as usual. Secondly, Norway is a big player in the O&G industry in the North Sea. What they did years ago was to use some of the oil money and set it aside as a fund to delve into when times got tough and the oil price went down, times such as this. I think I recall this being mooted by the Yes campaign as a pretty decent idea and one they would have employed, rather than have the money being squandered elsewhere. But hey, I'm sure that after having a mere glance at a headline you know what the fúck you're talking about, eh....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 What, did the Yes campaign assure everyone that oil prices would never fall? For one thing, the oil price fluctuates constantly. Back in 2008 it went from $147 a barrel to under $40 in the space of 4 months. There was no talk of a collapsing industry then and all that happened was companies delayed projects until prices went up. Once they did, as they inevitably always do, everything went back to normal and it was business as usual. Secondly, Norway is a big player in the O&G industry in the North Sea. What they did years ago was to use some of the oil money and set it aside as a fund to delve into when times got tough and the oil price went down, times such as this. I think I recall this being mooted by the Yes campaign as a pretty decent idea and one they would have employed, rather than have the money being squandered on seemingly endless, pointless wars and a useless WMD programme. But hey, I'm sure that after having a mere glance at a headline you know what the fúck you're talking about, eh....? Fify. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Exactly. It's weird how the majority of the non-OPEC producers who have upped their production, and so caused the price drop, are US companies. Coincidence? Probably not. OPEC is a US controlled cartel. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 the oil price is being manipulated to put pressure on Russia it will recover and the so-called crisis will give the oil companies a chance to cut costs and make even more money when it does and just so you know, oil volatility is every bit as bad a news story for the UK as it is for scotland. Just ask "drill baby drill" Cameron Of course , the Russians survived much greater pressure , back in the mid-forties. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Hughes in BlueSuedeShoes Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Fify. . Well, to be honest I was thinking more about the propping up of a wildly reckless financial sector during the 1980s & beyond but your point is a valid one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sorry, but it's not (though it is a cartel). Maybe not officially but yes , the Sherman tanks big money control it . They believe heavily in price fixing and in the case of pre-war Iraq , if you sell below the agreed price then , they get Bush ( or someone else propped up on their behalf) to send the boys around. . It's the kind of cutting edge foreign policy that has made the bloody Sherman's so . popular. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 But they've not got North Atlantic convoys to help them this time. True , l actually think they could have done it without them , their resourcefulness is vast . . Then again , maybe they will collapse but I think their collapse is more likely than them pulling out of the Ukraine. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Sir Ian Wood did an interview a day or two past on Russia Today. He explained why price would recover shortly and it wasn't a longterm issue. Hasn't made it onto bbc yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Sir Ian Wood did an interview a day or two past on Russia Today. He explained why price would recover shortly and it wasn't a longterm issue. Hasn't made it onto bbc yet? all the BBC managed on Friday was to interview a guy delivering lunches at the harbour. Nice guy, seemed a decent business man possibly the most unintendedly laughable interview i have seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 all the BBC managed on Friday was to interview a guy delivering lunches at the harbour. Nice guy, seemed a decent business man possibly the most unintendedly laughable interview i have seen Sounds like we've moved on from Mondeo Man to Berlingo Boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 And the change continues. Poll: 60% of Scots say SNP election surge would force Westminster to give Holyrood more powers Tom Gordon Scottish Political Editor.Sunday 28 December 2014 THREE-FIFTHS of Scots believe Westminster would have to deliver "substantially more powers" to Holyrood than currently proposed if the SNP held the balance of power after May's General Election, according to a new poll.The Panelbase survey found 60% of people thought the Nationalists could successfully use their clout in a hung parliament to extract more than the recent cross-party deal on tax and welfare thrashed out by the Smith Commission. The poll, which was commissioned for the SNP, also found most people believed the greater the number of SNP MPs elected, the better Scotland's interests would be protected at Westminster. The findings emerged just a day after an ICM poll for The Guardian suggested the SNP could cause a meltdown for Labour in Scotland next year. It put support for the Nationalists at 43%, more than double the party's 20% vote share in 2010. In contrast, support for Labour had nosedived from 42% to 26%, with the LibDems down from 19% to 6%, and the Tories slipping from 17% to 13%. If those numbers were reflected in a uniform swing, Labour would go from 41 MPs in Scotland to just 10, severely reducing Ed Miliband's chance of replacing David Cameron as Prime Minister. The SNP, meanwhile, would surge from six MPs to 45, ushering in a new era for Scottish politics. The Panelbase poll found widespread agreement that greater devolution would flow from the SNP holding the balance of power at Westminster, with the majority of men and women holding the view. Even 44% of No voters agreed compared to 32% who disagreed, with 51% of Labour voters and 44% of LibDem voters in 2011 also concurring. Although 58% of men thought more SNP MPs meant better protection for Scottish interests, only 46% of women did, although support for the proposition was still ahead among both sexes, and in every age group and socio-economic class. Among Labour voters in the 2011 election, 42% agreed compared to 37% who disagreed. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said: "As this momentous year draws to a close and we head into 2015 and the General Election, it is extremely encouraging to see more and more people put their trust in the SNP to stand up for Scotland. "The fact that a substantial number of No voters and most people who voted Labour in 2011 agree that the more SNP MPs are elected, the better Scotland's interest will be protected, demonstrates the broad appeal of the SNP campaign. "With a strong team of SNP MPs, we can ensure that Scotland's voice will be heard - using our influence to bring an end to austerity economics, make Scotland free of Trident nuclear weapons, and ensure that Scotland wins the necessary powers to build a fairer, more prosperous country." The Smith Commission recommended giving Holyrood control of income tax bar setting allowances, more borrowing powers and control of some welfare benefits; it also said the Scottish Parliament should be made permanent, so that it could not be abolished without its own consent. The cross-party Campaign for Scottish Home Rule is now consulting on how best to achieve the latter, and whether a written UK constitution is needed. But the ICM poll of 1004 people found 30% thought the Smith recommendations did not go far enough, against 26% who said they were about right. It found 53% thought Scotland should set its own corporation tax - an idea rejected by Smith. Labour MSP Jenny Marra insisted Jim Murphy becoming Scottish leader marked a "fresh start". She said: "We will come back in the new year with passion and energy, setting out our vision for making Scotland the fairest nation on earth. "The choice facing Scots next May is clear - we can send SNP MPs to the House of Commons to protest against the Tories, or we can send Scottish Labour MPs to replace the Tories." The Panelbase poll of 1018 adults in Scotland was conducted online between December 18 and 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shull Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Happy Anniversary All ......... RULE BRITTANIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Happy Anniversary All ......... RULE BRITTANIA Can't make my mind up if this is #thichasfcuk or genius. Brittania? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Can't make my mind up if this is #thichasfcuk or genius. Brittania? Brittania? Isn't that a type of cabbage or broccoli? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyOzBud Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Happy Anniversary All ......... RULE BRITTANIA Rule Britannia, Britannia waives the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Brittania? Isn't that a type of cabbage or broccoli? I must admit that I think "cabbage" every time I hear that song... Edited September 18, 2015 by salmonbuddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I noticed quite a few Pro - Independence Dudes in their vehicles today flying their Saltires out the windows. What a great idea. Now where did I put my St Mirren Car Flags from the 2010 League Cup Final. They are due a wee flutter. Eejits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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