faraway saint Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 People love Teale, yes Teale the chap that hasn't scored a goal in the league with us in 2 and a half years How do you know that he's far from match fit? You should phone up Danny and tip him off. Both Teale and Mehmet have done good jobs for us but they ain't out and out strikers but they are in our budget range. Who do you think is the answer, Van Persie or Rooney perhaps? Mehmet, striker, Teale, no a striker. I smell anger and desperation. Away and work on more of your "You don't go" lines, they're funny. PS Rooney & Van Persie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I can remember an interview where Billy himself said he did not regard himself as a goalscorer but as a forward who preferred to play behind a target man striker but because of his height he was often played as the target man. With us Billy was often the lone forward with only Dorman supporting from deep midfield. Billy was often isolated up front with us. I could see him play more the Paul McGowan role or playing alongside a natural goalscorer (Adam Campbell?). When he left us allegedly Aberdeen and Motherwell were interested in him. We now have football players in the team and I reckon Billy would fit in a lot better this time assuming he is physically fit and match fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 :lol Mehmet, striker, Teale, no a striker. I smell anger and desperation. Away and work on more of your "You don't go" lines, they're funny. PS Rooney & Van Persie. And I smell sh*te. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) And I smell sh*te. PS Nip over and take the psychopath test, you're a cert to pass. Edited December 11, 2013 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 PS Nip over and take the psychopath test, you're a cert to pass. How did you get on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 How did you get on? Failed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I can remember an interview where Billy himself said he did not regard himself as a goalscorer but as a forward who preferred to play behind a target man striker but because of his height he was often played as the target man. With us Billy was often the lone forward with only Dorman supporting from deep midfield. Billy was often isolated up front with us. I could see him play more the Paul McGowan role or playing alongside a natural goalscorer (Adam Campbell?). When he left us allegedly Aberdeen and Motherwell were interested in him. We now have football players in the team and I reckon Billy would fit in a lot better this time assuming he is physically fit and match fit. Now there's the $100 question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Failed! Ach never mind. You could always try ths test. Even you could pass this one. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/are-you-a-twat-2012102446226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ach never mind. You could always try ths test. Even you could pass this one. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/are-you-a-twat-2012102446226 Na, yer ok, I'm quite comfortable knowing my level and don't need to prove i'm better than I am, unlike you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madball Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 My feeling is that he was a player on whom Saints could rely to try his best - which was not bad - at a time when there was not such other talent as we now have, in support of his solo role up front. He scored some good, some vital goals - not as prolific as Thommo -but circumstances have changed. There would be more of a team effort in support. Billy can do a job. Whether Mehmet could do a job or not now, I'm not sure... probably too many years away at pretty inferior leagues to easily decide. However if we look back on his time with us, he was the best we had at the time and his goal return is pretty good going considering he was pretty much isolated most of the time, and he had to deal with Mr Happy's shitfest tactics and long balls into the channels in most games. Indeed on the last point his best games were often when we actually did try and win games as opposed to avoiding defeat, so our current way of playing might suit him better. And another thing to throw into the mix is that Thommo wasn't really prolific anywhere else in his career, the combination of playing for a team he loves and the style of football has brought the best out in him...who knows, maybe this might happen with Billy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest somner9 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Whether Mehmet could do a job or not now, I'm not sure... probably too many years away at pretty inferior leagues to easily decide. However if we look back on his time with us, he was the best we had at the time and his goal return is pretty good going considering he was pretty much isolated most of the time, and he had to deal with Mr Happy's shitfest tactics and long balls into the channels in most games. Indeed on the last point his best games were often when we actually did try and win games as opposed to avoiding defeat, so our current way of playing might suit him better. And another thing to throw into the mix is that Thommo wasn't really prolific anywhere else in his career, the combination of playing for a team he loves and the style of football has brought the best out in him...who knows, maybe this might happen with Billy too. That sentence... too true bud. my abiding memory of Billy's time on the ball is largely chasing a long punt towards the shy-line/corner.... Do you think Mr Happy was deep down a frustrated rugby coach who insisted his team 'Kick for touch' at every opportunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) I often wondered whether he was spread-betting as everytime we had a KO - the ball would invariably be hoofed straight out for a shy half way nto the opposition half within seconds. It happened so often I really should have put some money on myself. During one of the club's Q&A sessions he was asked about this. The reply was that it was a deliberate "tactic" to ensure that we didn't lose possession in our half, and had advanced into the final third area. I vividly recall the looks of utter bewilderment in the room in response to this. I had to check the date on my watch in case it was the first day of April and this had escaped my notice. Edit for typos Edited December 12, 2013 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest somner9 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 During of the club's Q&A sessions he was asked about this. The reply was that it was a deliberate "tactic" to ensure that we didn't lose possession in our half, and had adanced into the final third area. I vividly recall the looks of utter bewilderment in the room in response to this. I had to check the date on my watch in case it was the first day of April and this had escaped my notice. Didn't anyone call out "how Gus..! is that no rugby tactics yir talking there" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 During of the club's Q&A sessions he was asked about this. The reply was that it was a deliberate "tactic" to ensure that we didn't lose possession in our half, and had adanced into the final third area. I vividly recall the looks of utter bewilderment in the room in response to this. I had to check the date on my watch in case it was the first day of April and this had escaped my notice. It was the same at every goal kick also. We had Billy at a touchline line and no one in the middle so the ball mostly went out for a throw in to the other team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I often wondered whether he was spread-betting as everytime we had a KO - the ball would invariably be launched straight out for a shy half way into the opposition half within seconds. It happened so often I really should have put some money on myself. I'd just put that down to Chris Smith's kicking...Until I heard the plausible gaining-ground theory. I like that idea. Not the practice of it, but the daft idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 During of the club's Q&A sessions he was asked about this. The reply was that it was a deliberate "tactic" to ensure that we didn't lose possession in our half, and had advanced into the final third area. I vividly recall the looks of utter bewilderment in the room in response to this. I had to check the date on my watch in case it was the first day of April and this had escaped my notice. Although a current forum member still believes this "tactic" is the way ahead and even more unbelievably thinks it's why we're on a current decent run of form. Remember a cup game at home a few years ago against Aberdeen, we were winning and for the last 15 minutes possibly longer, we done nothing but kick the ball as hard as possible up the park. The inevitable happened, they hammered us and scored in the dying minutes. Yes, we got humped in the replay. You couldn't make that type of story up, could you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Na, yer ok, I'm quite comfortable knowing my level and don't need to prove i'm better than I am, unlike you. A happy loser is a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Said hello to Billy and told him will never forget that semi final goal. Is he coming back to Saints he was asked. Nothing fixed up (yet) was his answer. We have the new striker from Newcastle coming in so why another striker. Then again maybe a couple of players might be getting shipped out leaving room for another new face. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Said hello to Billy and told him will never forget that semi final goal. Is he coming back to Saints he was asked. Nothing fixed up (yet) was his answer. We have the new striker from Newcastle coming in so why another striker. Then again maybe a couple of players might be getting shipped out leaving room for another new face. Time will tell. Well that rules out Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 I was at a game "you should try this sometime" and he scored 5.... 4. He was playing beside big Higdon who scored zero. No bad for a non scoring striker. He scored the goal to promote us to the SPL NO HE DIDN'T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) NO HE DIDN'THe did score 5.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/8177216.stm Edited December 13, 2013 by JM1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 He did score 5. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/8177216.stm East Stirling have since slipped from the Champions League to the lowest league in Scotland. How the mighty have fallen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 He did score 5. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/8177216.stm Yes. But he DIDN'T score the championship winning goal QotS did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 My only contribution is that Billy Mehmet was a good midfielder who got pushed up front because of his size, ability to hold players off and linking up with others. St mirren relied on him as the main striking option when players like Dargo came in and failed to inspire. Big Billy was the only one willing to carry the cause when our goal-less front line were letting us down, he literally would play anywhere to get a game and took all the criticism that came his way for a lack of goals, a real shame as we would have been playing defenders up front just to fill a slot if he hadn't taken on the attacking role. Fit, strong, all heart and not short of a bit of skill, there should be a place at every club for a Mehmet. if he played with the tag of "goalscoring midfielder and utility player", rather than "striker short on goals2 then there would be a vastly different opinion of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yes. But he DIDN'T score the championship winning goal QotS did. I think you'll find that you win championships based on what you do, not on what others fail to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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