Eu Referendum

[shull 28,930]

Tarmac

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,870]

Cheaper fuel also means cheaper food through haulage cheaper fuel can bring the price down on many things.

[cockles1987 4,150]

Food and Water is fuel.

As is Peroni to Jakes.

Peroni, some weekend's it's the only sustenance I survive on.

[faraway saint 24,782]

Peroni, some weekend's it's the only sustenance I survive on.

Aye. Ah can tell by your posts. ????

[oaksoft 10,525]

I think you've lost the plot slightly. It says fuel, this could be heating fuel. It doesn't say petrol.

Food and Water is fuel.

As is Peroni to Jakes.

What do buses run on?

Cheaper fuel also means cheaper food through haulage cheaper fuel can bring the price down on many things.

Well it appears I made a complete c**t of myself..........

That will teach me to post when I am off my tits on early morning caffeine.

[Stuart Dickson 4,266]

On the other side though, if you scrap VAT on fuel you reduce the tax revenues and therefore you leave the government either having to make more cuts to services, or you have to raise the money through some other form of tax.

[TPAFKATS 6,877]

Would this help Taxi drivers if we leave?

Leading figures in the campaign for Britain to leave the European Union say they want to be able to scrap VAT on fuel to help the poorest households.

Tories Michael Gove and Boris Johnson and Labour's Gisela Stuart wrote in the Sun that the tax on energy bills cannot be scrapped because of EU rules.

Chancellor George Osborne said this was "fantasy land" economics.

Remain campaigners accused Vote Leave of promising a "make-believe land of milk and honey" if the UK left the EU.

There is one week left to register to vote in the EU referendum on 23 June.

The Electoral Commission says that, even after recent surges in registrations, many people are still not signed up to vote.

So is Gideon calling it fantasy land economics as the vat decision isn't the Eus? That means it's his choice to charge vat on household fuel?

Wasn't it Prudence Brown who introduced vat on gas and leccy bills?

[Stuart Dickson 4,266]

So is Gideon calling it fantasy land economics as the vat decision isn't the Eus? That means it's his choice to charge vat on household fuel?

Wasn't it Prudence Brown who introduced vat on gas and leccy bills?

Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997.

And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20%

Edited May 31, 2016 by Stuart Dickson

[salmonbuddie 2,814]

Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997.

And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20%

A reduction from 5% to 20%? I know you're not great with sums but surely even you can see the problem with that statement.

[Stuart Dickson 4,266]

A reduction from 5% to 20%? I know you're not great with sums but surely even you can see the problem with that statement.

nope - try reading it again....

[salmonbuddie 2,814]

My bad.

[Kendo 7,162]

The battle continues, the spotlight moves to immigration.

The UK could have a "fairer, more humane" immigration system that would work better for the economy if it left the EU, leading Leave campaigners say.

Tories Michael Gove, Boris Johnson and Priti Patel, and Labour's Gisela Stuart are calling for a points-based system for all migrants coming to the UK.

They say EU free movement rules have hit wages and strained public services.

The Remain campaign said the proposal would "wreck" the UK economy and could drive up immigration.

Meanwhile, the TUC will publish research claiming average UK wages would be £38 a week lower by 2030 outside the EU, as part of its push to encourage people to vote to stay in on 23 June.

[TPAFKATS 6,877]

Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997.

And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20%

So Gideon is admitting these are vat matters that he has control over and chooses not to change. WOW, there's some bad media advice getting given there if that's the case.

[oaksoft 10,525]

My bad.

Neither of us has come out of this thread well.

[salmonbuddie 2,814]

By admitting we made a mistake? Don't think so...

[TPAFKATS 6,877]

Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997.

And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20%

Meant to add that the EU does regulate on VAT. It sets a minimum rate of 15%.

[Kendo 7,162]

Watching Andrew McNeill ripping George Osborne a new arsehole right now.

[TPAFKATS 6,877]

Watching Andrew McNeill ripping George Osborne a new arsehole right now.

Is that a new party game for the bullingdon boys?

[nosferatu 1,431]

This referendum is a re-run of the Scottish independence referendum.

We are better off together.

UKIP = SNP

Salmond = Farage

Sturgeon = Johnson

And they all = Trump

Nationalist lunatics

[nosferatu 1,431]

By admitting we made a mistake? Don't think so...

I think we can dismiss the posts of a man who steals from the disabled to buy presents for his grandchildren and makes fun of the disabled.

Shameful.

[salmonbuddie 2,814]

#thichasfcuk

[salmonbuddie 2,814]

This referendum is a re-run of the Scottish independence referendum.

We are better off together.

UKIP = SNP

Salmond = Farage

Sturgeon = Johnson

And they all = Trump

Nationalist lunatics

Absolute proof

#thichasfcuk

[Wilbur 2,478]

What a decision I have to face.

Choice 1 : Vote "Remain" and side with a bunch of politicians I despise

Choice 2 : Vote "Leave" and side with a bunch of politicians I despise.

Choice 3 : Don't bother to vote at all.

ITV's two-hour long referendum debate tonight has assisted my Remain / Leave dilemma. I used to think that Boris Johnson was a cock. His performance on behalf of "Leave" in tonight's tv debate has eliminated any lingering doubt about that, he is a 100% walloper. No way could I be persuaded to back anything whatsoever that Johnson supports. He is probably the "Remain" campaign's greatest asset.

[salmonbuddie 2,814]

He'll make great twin for Trumpet if the UK votes leave...

[Callum Gilhooley 9,960]

What a decision I have to face.

Choice 1 : Vote "Remain" and side with a bunch of politicians I despise

Choice 2 : Vote "Leave" and side with a bunch of politicians I despise.

Choice 3 : Don't bother to vote at all.

ITV's two-hour long referendum debate tonight has assisted my Remain / Leave dilemma. I used to think that Boris Johnson was a cock. His performance on behalf of "Leave" in tonight's tv debate has eliminated any lingering doubt about that, he is a 100% walloper. No way could I be persuaded to back anything whatsoever that Johnson supports. He is probably the "Remain" campaign's greatest asset.

Devils advocate here:

When Boris is grilled & hurried, he falls to pieces, when he is given room to spout his opinions he is actually a fairly decent Orator . His one minute talks to camera will , i have no doubt, serve to convince his supporters & get a few switherers on board.

I dont agree 100% ( or 50% for that matter!) with what he says but there is a massive Sun/Mail/Star vote that will lap his stuff up .

The stay campaign is still basically a "project fear" campaign.

I am still undecided, although i am 51/49 Leave.... tomorrow ?? Who knows ?