lenziebud Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: Hardly a suprise if anyone thinks SMFC would be given 50K for Jack Ross they are in cloud cockoo land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, RussellV1 said: The Sunderland guys didn’t own the football club until 2 days ago, I guess they can speak to whoever they want before that without going through the proper process? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, lenziebud said: Exactly ... and what of Jack Ross valuing his great working relationship with Gordon Scott and Tony Fitzpatrick? Guys if you turn on the telly this afternoon you'll see me being announced as the new Sunderland manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: ... and what of Jack Ross valuing his great working relationship with Gordon Scott and Tony Fitzpatrick? Guys if you turn on the telly this afternoon you'll see me being announced as the new Sunderland manager. I think Jack Ross, Gordon Scott and Tony Fitzpatrick will all get along just fine after all this is complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Soctty said: Neilson would be the ideal choice. Great records with Hearts, both in getting them promoted, and in working with youth. Also took Hearts to third in the Premiership. I'm not sure what about all that makes him the wrong appointment. Eh maybe your forgetting Craig Levein. When away from Levein holding his hand, at MK Dons he was total junk. Essentaily fully responsible for getting them relegated. Overrated and a poor choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuD Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Ronnie said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2686586/tony-fitzpatrick-st-mirren-jack-ross-huge-loss-plan-in-place-sir-alex-ferguson/ Good old Fitzy eh? Trust him to come up with yet another Alex Ferguson story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuD Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, pod said: There's two losers out of this. Ipswich, who if they hadn't fannied around could have had Jack a week ago. Obviously us, lossing a great manager and problably a couple of potential signing unsure of who was going to be in charge. One winner, Sunderland. It feels like a defeat though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, lenziebud said: Hardly a suprise if anyone thinks SMFC would be given 50K for Jack Ross they are in cloud cockoo land The PDE states that the compensation clause in JR's contract was £100k but,I guess this is to do with Sunderlands underhand tactics,Saints have managed to secure a higher figure. Do we get more compo if Fowler goes too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Soctty said: I have no problem with Jack going to Sunderland. He gets a new challenge, and a lot more money, and we get our compensation and are back in the the premiership, where we wanted to be. That's how football works. Maybe we've become over-sensitive to losing our manager since we've got rid of ever manager we've had since 1986 rather than have other clubs want to take them from us. Time to move on. Harder to take, when taken from under your nose. Like pulling a nasal hair, it's sore. Edited May 24, 2018 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, StuD said: It feels like a defeat though Your used to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuD Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, nedflanders123 said: Why, if Kevin Ball is held in such high esteem, has he not been appointed? Hes never wanted the job. It looks like hes about to be appointed Head of the Academy though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, HSS said: The PDE states that the compensation clause in JR's contract was £100k but,I guess this is to do with Sunderlands underhand tactics,Saints have managed to secure a higher figure. Do we get more compo if Fowler goes too? Yes we would but I hope he is wanted by the incoming manager and stays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Kemp said: For f**k sake! How many times do you need to be told that there was no new contract signed in February? Its getting pretty boring now. You are repeating the same lie again and again in order to have a go at the Chairman and club management. Give it a bloody rest! Well you clearly never read my post did you? I was the one saying there was no contract signed in February Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuD Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, pod said: Your used to that. Certainly am. I support Sunderland and often watch St Mirren. Its a painful life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Yes we would but I hope he is wanted by the incoming manager and stays He's off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Soctty said: I'd never get any sleep for him droning on and on about some make-believe nonsense he's dreamt up... I'd probably be spending most of my time pointing out that his comments about 'make-believe' and 'dreamt up' don't make any sense, yes. Although I'd get plenty of sleep after that because he clearly has no argument at all to back-up his nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, pod said: He's off. Confirmed or opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, StuD said: Certainly am. I support Sunderland and often watch St Mirren. Its a painful life Those point also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, lenziebud said: Eh maybe your forgetting Craig Levein. When away from Levein holding his hand, at MK Dons he was total junk. Essentaily fully responsible for getting them relegated. Overrated and a poor choice. Not forgetting anything. Craig Levein in charge of Hearts for the vast majority of this season has helped them to a distant 6th - Robbie Neilson led them to 3rd in their first season back up after leading them to the championship title with a record points and goals tally in a league containing both Rangers and Hibs. So Levein managed to hold Neison's hand to great results, but was far from impressive in his own right. Makes sense... A move to England will always be a big gamble, as it's far more competitive - Jack will know this - but it's financially very attractive. Not seeing where your horrendous assessment of him is coming from, but we'll soon find out how good or bad he is first hand when he takes over here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, bazil85 said: I'd probably be spending most of my time pointing out that his comments about 'make-believe' and 'dreamt up' don't make any sense, yes. Although I'd get plenty of sleep after that because he clearly has no argument at all to back-up his nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, pod said: Harder to take, when taken from under your nose. Like pulling a nasal hair, it's sore. I've been expecting it since last summer. When bigger clubs with more money come calling, it's difficult to keep your manager, and difficult to begrudge him the move. I suppose I've prepared myself for it so it's no surprise. Onward and upwards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, StuD said: It feels like a defeat though And you said Sunderland wouldn't touch Jack...... got that right didn't u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Soctty said: Not forgetting anything. Craig Levein in charge of Hearts for the vast majority of this season has helped them to a distant 6th - Robbie Neilson led them to 3rd in their first season back up after leading them to the championship title with a record points and goals tally in a league containing both Rangers and Hibs. So Levein managed to hold Neison's hand to great results, but was far from impressive in his own right. Makes sense... A move to England will always be a big gamble, as it's far more competitive - Jack will know this - but it's financially very attractive. Not seeing where your horrendous assessment of him is coming from, but we'll soon find out how good or bad he is first hand when he takes over here... I wonder what Jack Ross has to say about Levein and Neilson ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Also particularly annoying given the fanfare Jack made when Lewis Morgan signed for Celtic about how he worked with Lewis to make sure he got the right move to the right club for Lewis but how they also worked to get a good deal for St Mirren in terms of finance (the fee was decent considering he was out of contract in the summer) and on getting Lewis back on loan to finish the season. I am sure that many of us hoped that when the day came and Jack moved to a bigger club he might be open to doing the right thing by St Mirren. Instead it appears he had his contract changed to make it as cheap and easy to leave and hasn't been in touch with the club at any point to ask permission to talk with Sunderland, or once talks have taken place to update the club on his thoughts on the talks, and instead the first the club hear about it is via the media after he has agreed his new contract with Sunderland and when he is going to be announced as their new manager the following day. Major skuldugerry indeed and all the goodwill which would normally accompany a successful St Mirren manager moving on to better things has evaporated on my part at least. That is a excellent post [emoji106] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, lenziebud said: I wonder what Jack Ross has to say about Levein and Neilson ? I don't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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