Wendy Saintss Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, Jack the lad said: Anyway, when we gonna see some more of Stubb's marquee signings Heaton and Cooke? Why add in the word "marquee"? Jack Ross made numerous signings who hardly played as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 8/16/2018 at 12:19 AM, Dan Is The Man said: It’s not just Sunday though, is it? This time last year he was giving away penalties and getting sent off when we got thumped at Cappielow. He’s made more than a few costly mistakes. The fact is he made his first team debut the same season as Morgan and Mallan, those lads as you know have gotten big moves away from the club. He hasn’t developed the way we thought he would and we should just accept that, he wasn’t first choice last year and won’t be this year when our squad is eventually assembled. Morton 4-1 game, Livi 4-1 game. Dropped after both of those and came back stronger. Can't remember too many games where Baird has made big errors although I'm sure someone will know better. The boy has a fighting quality about him which pushes him to keep going after big mistakes. Whether he's good enough for this level won't be judged over 2 league games though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Wendy Saintss said: Why add in the word "marquee"? Jack Ross made numerous signings who hardly played as well. You need to ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Can't see any chance of McGinn being dropped. He's the only one in the team offering any sort of leadership. This is why McGinn won't be dropped. Without him we would be completely rudderless. We need our more experienced players to help him out on the park by speaking to the less experienced players and encouraging them throughout the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the lad Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said: You need to ask? Afternoon "sweet cheeks" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Wendy Saintss said: But we're not asking these guys to make the leap from non league football to being a Championship winner and international. We're asking them to take the "leap" to playing in Scotland! A third tier English side just beat us 6-0 on our own ground the other week. Its not the massive leap you are making out. Aberdeen's main striker this season was playing 6th tier English football 2 years ago and 5th tier last season. As for onfield ability, its onfield ability tat gets you into the v9 academy in the first place. They don't just let in anyone and everyone. Its nothing like BGT. The first player to get a pro contract from v9 was 27 year old Danny Newton who scored 14 goals in League 2 last season, and he'd never played league football in his career. As for paying money, Hamilton paid an 'undisclosed fee' for Alex Penny from Peterborough (who he had joined for a fee after being at v9 the season before) and again for Mickel Miller from Carshalton (who were in the 8th tier of English football). I'm relaxed with paying £75k for a player on a 3 year deal. We've wasted that sort of money on just wages for a single player for a season on countless occasions. Glad to see you realize that not all signings repay the outlay - it's just a matter of time till you realize I'm right about these two Showbiz Stars. I'm not bothered about other players at other clubs - just the ones at ours. Cook (2 year deal) I'm not too worried about - Heaton is the one I feel was an unwarranted risk for a club of our size. Cook seems well down the pecking order and if Heaton doesn't start to-morrow you'd have to wonder when his time will come. Time will tell. Edited August 17, 2018 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjo Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Has Jones played any first team football and when are we going to see King, Cooke and Heaton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, jonjo said: Has Jones played any first team football and when are we going to see King, Cooke and Heaton In order: King - probably never, Cooke - when we've no one else fit or available and Heaton - when he's up to speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Glad to see you realize that not all signings repay the outlay - it's just a matter of time till you realize I'm right about these two Showbiz Stars. I'm not bothered about other players at other clubs - just the ones at ours. Cook (2 year deal) I'm not too worried about - Heaton is the one I feel was an unwarranted risk for a club of our size. Cook seems well down the pecking order and if Heaton doesn't start to-morrow you'd have to wonder when his time will come. Time will tell. The reason you are suddenly not interested to n players at other clubs is because it shows that your point was incorrect.And the reason you use the meaningless and irrelevant ‘showbiz stars’ term is because you are struggling to know why you have an issue with the signings.I’ll tell you what your issue is though. It’s ‘pozbaird / drew syndrome’ you don’t like us signing players from the UK that you personally haven’t heard of! [emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 In order: King - probably never, Cooke - when we've no one else fit or available and Heaton - when he's up to speed. I think that might be right. Don’t remember btb having such a meltdown when JR signed his ‘showbiz trio’ of Todd, Kirkpatrick and Stewart or even Daryl Duffy FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Wendy Saintss said: I think that might be right. Don’t remember btb having such a meltdown when JR signed his ‘showbiz trio’ of Todd, Kirkpatrick and Stewart or even Daryl Duffy FFS. Maybe we should only ever have 11 players at the club from now on, seeing as how anyone who isn't an automatic starter every week is now a waste of money and not needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) On 8/18/2018 at 8:45 AM, Wendy Saintss said: The reason you are suddenly not interested to n players at other clubs is because it shows that your point was incorrect. And the reason you use the meaningless and irrelevant ‘showbiz stars’ term is because you are struggling to know why you have an issue with the signings. I’ll tell you what your issue is though. It’s ‘pozbaird / drew syndrome’ you don’t like us signing players from the UK that you personally haven’t heard of! What's right for other clubs ain't necessarily right for ours. It's nothing to do with being unfamiliar with our Showbiz Stars prior to their arrival, it's their pedigree I don't rate. I read elsewhere in the forum that we've made 10 signings since the end of last season. Out of the 10 I'd heard of 1 (Paul McGinn) prior to signing for us. Out of the remaining 9 I've criticized 2, the V9 signings, because of the players lack of pedigree and Heaton in particular because of the length of the contract and size of the fee involved. Another week without our record post-Bosman signing appearing, he now seems to below Jones in the pecking order! Not for the first time your desire to seem edgy and ITK has backfired - I look forward to you slinking away and reappearing with a new username in a few months! Edited August 19, 2018 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 8/15/2018 at 9:50 PM, buddies1877 said: Just signed a 2 year extension to his contract. Captain of their u23 Was Southampton’s young player of the year 2 years ago. They don’t rate him at all though Doesn't seem to be "highly rated" by OK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Doesn't seem to be "highly rated" by OK! Lucky for him it’s guys that are at Southampton that are better to judge that than someone that’s known him for 2 weeks.Not been impressed with him either myself from short spells I’ve seen him seems another wasted signing from Stubbs.Worth noting though St Mirren’s highly rated youngster Stevie Mallan wasn’t highly rated when he went to Barnsley look at him now with hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: Lucky for him it’s guys that are at Southampton that are better to judge that than someone that’s known him for 2 weeks. Not been impressed with him either myself from short spells I’ve seen him seems another wasted signing from Stubbs. Worth noting though St Mirren’s highly rated youngster Stevie Mallan wasn’t highly rated when he went to Barnsley look at him now with hibs. Proves my point that the phrase is essentially meaningless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Proves my point that the phrase is essentially meaningless! does it ?It’s means some people down south that have seen him progress believe he has a lot of potential that’s all.Seems a stupid point you want to prove imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: does it ?It’s means some people down south that have seen him progress believe he has a lot of potential that’s all. Seems a stupid point you want to prove imo But you were suggesting it meant more a month ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 But you were suggesting it meant more a month ago! Was I how? By saying people at Southampton rate him highly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: Was I how? By quoting it as if it was some kind of coup signing the player when really it was just a bit of fluff about a 20-y-o with no first team experience. Edit - Here’s what you said Sounds like a very good signing highly rated from one of the best academy’s in England. Edited September 24, 2018 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 By quoting it as if it was some kind of coup signing the player when really it was just a bit of fluff about a 20-y-o with no first team experience.“Sounds like a very good signing highly rated from one of the best academy’s in England.”That’s what I said what’s really wrong with that?Your gripe seems a bit of fluff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, buddies1877 said: “Sounds like a very good signing highly rated from one of the best academy’s in England.” That’s what I said what’s really wrong with that? Your gripe seems a bit of fluff. Nothing wrong with what you said, it was just naïve. I’m trying to help you learn, so you don't fall for it next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Nothing wrong with what you said, it was just naïve. I’m trying to help you learn, so you don't fall for it next time. [emoji23][emoji23]Only thing I’ve learned is you seem a bit of a fud tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Jones. I liked what (little) we've seen of him. Strong, confident and mouthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, buddies1877 said: Only thing I’ve learned is you seem a bit of a fud tbh Well at least you've learned something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: Only thing I’ve learned is you seem a bit of a fud tbh buddies1877 has taken IOBS comedy gold crown. Spent July and August raving about Stubbs and his highly rated signings (along with Wendy Saints) before calling for Stubbs to go and saying his 'highly rated' signings were in fact examples of poor recruitment which cost his erstwhile hero his job in super-quick time, and then still lampoons forum members who were correct all along. buddies1877 hasn't been wrong all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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