Big Boris, Our Prime Minister

[Bud the Baker]

39 minutes ago, St.Ricky said:

OK. I see his use of intemperate language in relation to Jo Cox and his clear lack of empathy for her and the concerns of female MP's for their safety is still leading the news. 

Joke in poor taste - guilty but unrepentant... 

[Guest TPAFKATS]

Johnson's sister Rachel was on radio 4 earlier casually mentioning that she thought he was now under pressure from friends and acquaintances who have billions invested on sterling shorting due to no deal.

[Bud the Baker]

Edited September 26, 2019 by Bud the Baker

[St.Ricky]

8 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:

Does her dress mirror her political stance? 

[Guest TPAFKATS]

Does her dress mirror her political stance? 

No, she's a staunch tory

[antrin]

She is erstwhile editor of The Lady.

The wee magazine whose Classifieds Ads you look at, when you want to employ a Downstairs Maid, Butler, footman and suchlike lower orders.

I don't think she signed up for Momentum.

[St.Ricky]

29 minutes ago, antrin said:

She is erstwhile editor of The Lady.

The wee magazine whose Classifieds Ads you look at, when you want to employ a Downstairs Maid, Butler, footman and suchlike lower orders.

I don't think she signed up for Momentum.

Gosh. I have a subscription to that publication and never realised that she had been the editor. That's obviously the place you would go to for your, butler or scullery maid. I got our gardener and cleaners there! Not. 

[salmonbuddie]

No, she's a staunch tory

She could be a red Tory, plenty of them around.

[St.Ricky]

Boris adviser upsets more people but is confident that things are a "walk in the park" 

[Guest TPAFKATS]

Amazing how any kind of unprofessional behaviour and law breaking of any sorts can be excused if it gets the desired result of a no deal brexit.

[oaksoft]

14 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said:

Amazing how any kind of unprofessional behaviour and law breaking of any sorts can be excused if it gets the desired result of a no deal brexit.

Boris has just watched Trump get away with this for the last couple of years and is attempting the same thing.

He will either get his Brexit or Brexit will be revoked under a caretaker PM and then he can go to the country at the next GE with grievance politics knowing he'll probably be PM again with a clear majority and Brexit will be behind him.

I reckon he knows exactly what he's doing. All he needs is to genuinely not give a f**k about what people who oppose him think of him.

A VONC is the only way to get rid of him and save Brexit but I think he's going to win the longer game.

[St.Ricky]

1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

Boris has just watched Trump get away with this for the last couple of years and is attempting the same thing.

He will either get his Brexit or Brexit will be revoked under a caretaker PM and then he can go to the country at the next GE with grievance politics knowing he'll probably be PM again with a clear majority and Brexit will be behind him.

I reckon he knows exactly what he's doing. All he needs is to genuinely not give a f**k about what people who oppose him think of him.

A VONC is the only way to get rid of him and save Brexit but I think he's going to win the longer game.

Have you been watching the BBC again? The source of "impartial" news. Of course I could take your approach and say that your opinion wasn't asked for and that I am going to ignore it. But, where's the fun in that? All still to play for imo. A high stakes game. You may be right. This might be the exception to the rule that you are normally wrong. 

[Russian Saint]

Boris has just watched Trump get away with this for the last couple of years and is attempting the same thing.
He will either get his Brexit or Brexit will be revoked under a caretaker PM and then he can go to the country at the next GE with grievance politics knowing he'll probably be PM again with a clear majority and Brexit will be behind him.
I reckon he knows exactly what he's doing. All he needs is to genuinely not give a f**k about what people who oppose him think of him.
A VONC is the only way to get rid of him and save Brexit but I think he's going to win the longer game.

Love him or loathe him, Trump has done very well for America since he was elected, no one can honestly say he hasn’t. His success has seen his ratings rise in the polls which I believe will see him win the next election.
Would you (not meaning you personally) rather see a British PM have the same success but one that doesn’t give a feck about what people say about him, or someone that’ll tell the electorate what they want to hear to get into number 10, and then backtrack on the promises made? I know which I’d prefer. I don’t know enough about BJ to say if he can do the same for Britain as Trump has for the US.

[Russian Saint]

Really? Starting trade wars, pulling out of Iran nuclear deal and therefore putting US interests in the region under threat, threatening war, etc ...

How exactly has he done very well for America?

* Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
* More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
* We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
* Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
* Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
* New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
* Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
* African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
* Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
* Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
* Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
* Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
* Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
* Under Trump Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
* Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
* The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
* 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
* Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
* Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
* As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
* Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
* Record number of regulations eliminated.
* Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
* Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
* Trump Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
* Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
* Trump reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
* Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
* Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
* We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
* Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
* Increased US coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
* United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
* Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
* Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
* Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
* NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
* Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
* Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
* Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
* Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
* Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
* Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
* Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
* Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
* Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
* Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
* Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
* Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
* Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
* Trump administration have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

I’d say that’s not too bad.

Above stats are from the US government site.

[saintnextlifetime]

10 hours ago, TPAFKATS said:

Amazing how any kind of unprofessional behaviour and law breaking of any sorts can be excused if it gets the desired result of a no deal brexit.

Is it ?

[Wendy Saintss]

At least Boris doesn’t go around sexually assaulting women!

[St.Ricky]

6 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said:

At least Boris doesn’t go around sexually assaulting women!

Might the same be said about assaulting women.. Allegedly? 

[Russian Saint]

So you're taking stuff that Trump has claimed and believing it. You are aware that he lives in a fantasy land, aren't you? Job creation in the US has slowed under Trump. He is also taking credit for jobs that were announced in 2015 (Commercial Metals and Charter Communications) but weren't in place until after he was elected, jobs that were announced but never created, jobs that were created after his election but before he took office ...

That's just for starters. I'm not even going to start on the other things. You've got Google, use it.

So, that’s all lies then?

[Ayrshire Saints]

WTF are you quoting there..."we....our..." what was the source ????

* Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
* More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
* We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
* Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
* Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
* New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
* Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
* African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
* Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
* Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
* Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
* Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
* Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
* Under Trump Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
* Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
* The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
* 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
* Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
* Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
* As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
* Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
* Record number of regulations eliminated.
* Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
* Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
* Trump Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
* Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
* Trump reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
* Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
* Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
* We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
* Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
* Increased US coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
* United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
* Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
* Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
* Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
* NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
* Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
* Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
* Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
* Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
* Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
* Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
* Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
* Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
* Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
* Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
* Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
* Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
* Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
* Trump administration have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

I’d say that’s not too bad.

Above stats are from the US government site.

[antrin]

Just now, Russian Saint said:

 

So, that’s all lies then?

 

It's not all lies as only a crazy would happily boast of...

* Increased US coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
* United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
* Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
* Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
 

Greta Thunberg would be 'happy to make such claims, not.

 

And as to his pre-election claims that he'd stop funding overseas wars...

the following are proof he lied about that, also...

* Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.

* Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

* Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
* Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court..

All amazingly humanitarian and pacifist actions, eh? The Israel thing will really work out well, not.  And quitting the Iran deal hasn't stoked overseas conflict, either, not really...

 

and as for such claims as:

* The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.

Where's the money?  Where's the reality - commitments are great - on paper.

and...

* Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

 I wonder if he's just deported them all, all he's letting them eat cake or they're starving...

 

Each of those claims could fail/be strongly challenged with minimal attempt at verification.

Slarti offered an example, I see.

 

[St.Ricky]

14 minutes ago, Russian Saint said:

 

So, that’s all lies then?

 

Are you suggesting that the ends justify the means? Putin and Trump would agree. 

[Russian Saint]

Are you suggesting that the ends justify the means? Putin and Trump would agree. 

I guess we’ll find out when the American electorate vote next year.

[FTOF]

35 minutes ago, Russian Saint said:

 

So, that’s all lies then?

 

No .

That appears to be anything that Trump disagrees with or any wrongdoing that he's been accused of.

[Russian Saint]

Are you referring to my post or the list you posted?

The list I posted from the US Government website.
I know there are a few polices that people don’t agree with, the border wall for example but that was one of his pledges during his election campaign. I believe it was also one of Obama’s but he didn’t go through with it.
As for the Iranian nuclear deal that he pulled out of. I don’t know enough on that one but if as is widely claimed that Iran would have military grade weapon capabilities within a couple of years then I wouldn’t take that risk.
I believe that with Iran and North Korea Trump has made threats of military strikes to bring them to the negotiating table. I don’t believe he actually wants a war with them.

[Russian Saint]

WTF are you quoting there..."we....our..." what was the source ????

As I stated on my original response it’s from the US Government website.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/