shull Posted October 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Not a fan of Piers Morgan but he does get watchable interviews now and again. He is doing another interview tonight with the family of sponsored walk hero, Captain Tom. Not to be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Morgan's comments are a total disgrace. Where was the Palestinian viewpoint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmac Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 This is a link to United Nations data on fatalities and injuries of Palestinian and Israelis in the last 15 years. It does not include data for the current crisis. Data on casualties | United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - occupied Palestinian territory (ochaopt.org) Maybe it shows why the Palestinians are a bit pissed off, not that I am condoning the actions of Hamas. Perhaps you could change the the title of this thread to something more balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ianmac said: This is a link to United Nations data on fatalities and injuries of Palestinian and Israelis in the last 15 years. It does not include data for the current crisis. Data on casualties | United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - occupied Palestinian territory (ochaopt.org) Maybe it shows why the Palestinians are a bit pissed off, not that I am condoning the actions of Hamas. Perhaps you could change the the title of this thread to something more balanced. "Near East Shitfest" would be an accurate title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Shull reverting to WUM type with the change of title, sad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, shull said: You're absolutely right. The title is not suitable for a football forum within its general nonsense section. Changed and waiting on your approval. And dinnae call me Shirley. Good man Shull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, StanleySaint said: Shull reverting to WUM type with the change of title, sad really. Wilbur requested a change of title. Do you want me to change it back to the original or can you suggest a better one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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W6er Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 The Palestinians don't have a chance, sadly. The Western media are biased, the US gives Israel literally $billions every year to finance their military and has already sent an aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean to deter other Arab countries from offering military support to Gaza, which has now had power and water cut off and is being turned into rubble. I do NOT support Hamas, but I think the data @ianmac has posted demonstrates the huge disparity in the number of fatalities attributed to each side, and every single year far more Palestinians are killed. This certainly implies Israel has been the aggressor or, at the very least, that their 'retaliatory strikes' are disproportionate. How they have the chutzpah to portray themselves as victims in all this, given they have displaced the Arabs in the first instance, boggles the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, shull said: Wilbur requested a change of title. Do you want me to change it back to the original or can you suggest a better one ? Ok I'll play along, how about Middle East in crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, StanleySaint said: Ok I'll play along, how about Middle East in crisis Boring Couldn't care less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Thought as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, ianmac said: This is a link to United Nations data on fatalities and injuries of Palestinian and Israelis in the last 15 years. It does not include data for the current crisis. Data on casualties | United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - occupied Palestinian territory (ochaopt.org) Maybe it shows why the Palestinians are a bit pissed off, not that I am condoning the actions of Hamas. Perhaps you could change the the title of this thread to something more balanced. Thanks for your suggestion sir. The title is fine . I posted a breaking news story on Saturday regarding a horrific atrocity which began on Saturday. It's that simple. If you desire a topic on the history of the middle east with your own chosen title then be my guest and start one. Stanley Saint will help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, StanleySaint said: Thought as much. Though I can appreciate why some may have found the original title distasteful, it was somewhat appropriate, given it's a football forum. The 'match' is also perhaps analogous to Rangers v Pollok Juniors in the Scottish Cup - one side has all the resources, a fawning media and the SFA onside. The other stands absolutely no chance at all...perhaps if Rangers had first evicted Pollok from Ibrox and paid them no compensation, it would be a slightly better analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 UK to deploy Royal Navy ships to support Israel The UK will send surveillance aircraft and two Royal Navy ships to the eastern Mediterranean in plans “to support Israel", No 10 says. The aircraft will begin patrols tomorrow to "track threats to regional stability such as the transfer of weapons to terrorist groups". The package includes surveillance assets, helicopters, P8 aircraft, and a company of marines. Rishi Sunak said the military support would "prevent further escalation". The British armed forces will be on standby to "deliver practical support to Israel and partners in the region, and offer deterrence and assurance", Downing Street said. Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67095846 Typical...now will this meddling in the affairs of others mean a resurgence of terror attacks here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 8 hours ago, shull said: Not a fan of Piers Morgan but he does get watchable interviews now and again. He is doing another interview tonight with the family of sponsored walk hero, Captain Tom. Not to be missed. He is on question time the now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: He is on question time the now. He's a gob💩! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, W6er said: He's a gob💩! You're being far too kind to the pratt… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Typical bias from the BBC expressed in their choice of panel members in Question Time. With the exception of one (who was more neutral) all were recognised as supporters of Israel. With the amount hands raised for questions, the numbers reflected the extensive news coverage of the issue and much more time should have been given for the discussion which is effectively censorship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, antrin said: You're being far too kind to the pratt… He made some good points about young people getting on the property ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 7 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: He made some good points about young people getting on the property ladder. I thought he was playing to the audience and, as I mentioned in another thread, exaggerated the numbers to make a point, not the best move. Also I doubt his children would have problems getting onto the property ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 I see the English FA have declined a request to light up Wembley in the colours of Israel at tonights match. I agree, as taking the weekends atrocious attacks as a stand alone act isn't the whole picture. There are no winners in this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 The latest Israel statement that over 1 million people have to move within 24 hours. Grant Shapps struggling to justify this, and no wonder, it's an impossible task. Focusing on the weekends horrendous masacre as some justification for the almost certain slaughter of thousands of civilians. The much maligned BBC not letting him off the hook. Depressing. 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, faraway saint said: The latest Israel statement that over 1 million people have to move within 24 hours. Grant Shapps struggling to justify this, and no wonder, it's an impossible task. Focusing on the weekends horrendous masacre as some justification for the almost certain slaughter of thousands of civilians. The much maligned BBC not letting him off the hook. Depressing. 👎 I very rarely get depressed, but this has really depressed me. It's the bias that you and others have, correctly (IMHO), identified that really annoys me. I think I will log off here for a while, as there's no game tomorrow and I get notifications which lure me back into the thread out of curiosity. I will be the proverbial ostrich with his head buried in the sand and just ignore all this. My biggest fear is it will escalate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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